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James831
post Aug 26 2015, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Aug 26 2015, 12:06 PM)
Ini reporter hisap weed ...
i think Le Drian coming here to discuss about Rafale fighter deal not Mistral  sweat.gif  rclxub.gif
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Hopefully they also discuss about more medium and heavy heli for TUDM .☺
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post Aug 28 2015, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Aug 28 2015, 04:14 PM)
yes, much pro typhoon writing.
more like spec view.

From General impression view Typhoon sure better.
but an aircraft, we should look in electronic, sensor, human interactive with plane too.
for normal people is not easy understand what advantage in rafale。

If free can look back。rafale test flight
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...-rafale-334383/

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http://www.afwing.com/aircraft/test-dassau...le-fighter.html
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So TUDM already decide they want completely new fighter, not add more Cik-Su or Cik-HORNET?

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post Aug 28 2015, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Aug 28 2015, 05:20 PM)
maybe can buy other than fighter from uncle sam? like P8, B737 MESA,  attack helicopter, Chinook etc.
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If can buy Hornet and Cobra plus Chinook, it would be really good .
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post Aug 28 2015, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 28 2015, 05:32 PM)
That too
but thers is a reason why SH will be picked
the US wanted us to have a front role fighter too
esp for Sea Strike role

its a deterrence that actually favors them in this region
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Uncle Sam might be also looking for some type of deal that allow them to use kk or labuan airport.

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post Aug 30 2015, 09:36 PM

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So it more like a military outpost?
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post Aug 31 2015, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Aug 31 2015, 04:03 PM)
i thought Deftech gonna make their own AV-4 by using the AV-8 as the basis, reducing the size n all.. 

ah well better this way, couldn't imagine how much the development cost gonna be if Deftech were to build their own AV-4  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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It a good start that malaysia buying asean products, i wander if malaysia gonna buy military products from singapore?

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post Aug 31 2015, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Aug 31 2015, 07:20 PM)
From Scorpene scandal to Mistral mysterY

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Read more : - http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...istral-mystery/
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Actually is there good or promising news coming out of the meeting?

Regarding first win 4x4 av-4, is it exclusive use by TDM only?
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post Sep 1 2015, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Sep 1 2015, 01:13 AM)
French Defense Firms To Accompany Jean-Yves Le Drian To Malaysia

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The whole gang is here apparently  sweat.gif
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if the representative from french bank also come it will complete liao.
10 years installment for rafale package. brows.gif brows.gif
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post Sep 1 2015, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 1 2015, 12:44 PM)
hopefully will have some good news. anyway still in talk only.
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@PMesnier
French Mindef visiting RMAF in Subang. Another partnership anchored. Tks RMAF for the warm welcome

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Pierre Mesnier ‏@PMesnier  2h2 hours ago
Mr Le Drian is witnessing a strong Malaysian French Cooperation on A400M. A real success

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Pierre Mesnier ‏@PMesnier  1h1 hour ago
Mr Le Drian accompanied by Mr Raffarin former French PM meeting with Malaysian PM for strategic talks。

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if cant get rafale or mistral, get some cougar and tiger also fine .
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post Sep 2 2015, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Sep 2 2015, 11:38 AM)
if PR win we can buy 24 fighters with the same cost it took BN gomen to procure 18 fighters  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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24 fighters with no missile.
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post Sep 3 2015, 06:34 PM

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Is PFI(private finance initiative) a workable solution for the lack of defence budget for MOD?
what do u guys think?
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post Sep 4 2015, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 4 2015, 01:57 PM)
maybe ask US to give 1 P8, than we buy 1 so total 2.
or US sponsor 2 unit B737  we pay integration P8 system cost。2 unit B737-700 only about  usd 120+ million (militry empty interior version) biggrin.gif
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Malaysia are not that good buddy with uncle sam yet.
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post Sep 4 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 4 2015, 03:09 PM)
Mahal oh.. even india modified p8 is not cheap by any standard.

I rather take japan p1..
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Actually is the P-3 orion or E-2D Hawkeye available?

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post Sep 4 2015, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 4 2015, 04:46 PM)
and more missile frigates plz
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Speaking of missile corvettes , what happen to the 6 missile corvettes from korea? Gone case liao????
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post Sep 4 2015, 07:17 PM

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If the french were to offer malaysia russia mistral little brother MISTRAL 140, then we might be seriously consider buying it.
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post Sep 5 2015, 01:21 AM

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we focus at the wrong mistral class LPD, it should be the little brother Mistral 140 LPD
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DCNS unveiled a model of a smaller version of the standard Mistral BPC 210 ship called the Mistral 140 in September 2014 at the Africa Aerospace and Defence 2014 exhibition in Pretoria, South Africa. Compared to the full-sized ship's 21,500 tons displacement and 199 m (653 ft) length with six helicopter landing spots, the 140 has a displacement of 14,000 tons and is 170 m (560 ft) long with five helicopter landing spots. It is 30 m (98 ft) wide and has a range of 6,000 nmi (6,900 mi; 11,000 km) at 15 knots.
Naval guns are positioned on the left stern and at the right side of the bow with heavy machine gun posts on both sides. There is a well dock in the stern for landing craft and two alcoves on each side to launch rigid-hulled inflatable boats. A crane is positioned amidships behind the superstructure. The hangar deck has space for ten helicopters, and it has a 400 m2 joint operations centre for a command staff. It can accommodate about 500 troops as well as over 30 vehicles and a 30-bed hospital. Propulsion is provided by two azimuth pods and a bow thruster, it is likely to have an all-electric propulsion system like the BPC 210.
DCNS is advertising the Mistral 140 as "a political tool for civilian and military action" for countries that cannot afford the standard Mistral vessels. Roles listed include humanitarian and peacekeeping operations, crisis management, force protection, joint headquarters command, medical and logistics support and transport of military forces. The company is pitching the ship to countries less likely to engage in combat operations and need something more like a multi-role support or logistics ship, particularly the South African Navy.

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post Sep 5 2015, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 5 2015, 01:26 AM)
the france want to let go the two full size mistral

if they offer a full size for the price of mistrak 140. it one huge bargain dont u think
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if france really do that ,it would be great.
but even that happen, it wont be only malaysia interest to buy it.
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post Sep 5 2015, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 5 2015, 01:45 AM)
if buy 2 they at least give discount laaa

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no discount no problem, just give us few Tiger of Cougar with it. brows.gif brows.gif
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post Sep 6 2015, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Sep 6 2015, 06:03 PM)
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I count got 7 reefs claim by malaysia, are all of it have the present of malaysia army?
Brunei give up claim in south china sea already, right?
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post Sep 6 2015, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 6 2015, 07:48 PM)
no, they not gave up their claim, but not as serious on the claim though
Malaysia is only looking back to get back Amboyna and Commodore reef which they lose in the 60/70s
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Take back those 2 would mean direct confrontation with vietnam and pinoy, how malaysia lost both in the 60/70s?

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