Archangel and Eladriel useless?

I think u are like having a Ferrari but letting a garbage truck driver using it... basically good mob without good runes to support it.

Because people want to maximize her damage from her third skill. In order to do that, decent crit rate with a lot of crit dmg.

That's why the general recommendation is to go rage/blade. But if you have runes which can achieve >180% crit dmg, no harm using them over rage runes. and of course you need chloe to make her third skill effective, if don't have I have seen some people use Light Fairy as alternative.

Oic. Some units are bad in offense or they are just better/effective mobs out there. Imho, Eladriel is good in AD as he is one of the best reviver (probably Iona is better). Just think he is very good in AD and guild war AD. Not so much on PvE since you already have chasun and on offense rarely I bring reviver anyway (which is why you cant compare him to bella).

Maybe we have different meta. I am G2 in asia. I see a lot of Wind AA, though nothing is unbeatable but I don't enjoy fighting them. Especially pair them with Ritesh or Perna.

I don't own any AAs but I always think going full tanky is not so effective. Need to have speed to make it violent procs more often and thus skill cooldown more often which leads to more heal and revive. A 50k hp AA can sit there all day long while I kill all the other mobs. But a 35k hp AA with better speed can heal/revive and thus "participate" more in a battle.

Also, you shouldn't even be considering his dmg output with defense. He is not a dmg dealer, even velajuel as much as YDCB wants to make his damage decent deals mediocre dmg imho.

Just my 2 cents.

Yes. Burst team doesn't work on higher league in Asia. Its tanks everywhere or worse, Chloe running every AD. Only burst team I see working in my arena is those with Praha/Juno/Aquila + Zaiross. Those type of AD, I bring chloe with Will runes also no use coz buff will get removed and you have to pray for your mobs resistance to work.

Yes. Darion works well, especially in AD. Imho, tanky unit is strong but need to balance it with decent speed. I have fought beastmonks which doesn't move much at all while my mob one by one armor break + disable/kill in 1-2 attacks. That is when Eladriel becomes irritating.

He can heal to neutralize my first attack (sometimes with armor break, still can't ohko all tanky mobs) or if I manage to ohko, he can revive them. Then we will proceed with the sustain war.

Wind AA first skill of removing buff actually quite good also. My theomars died because the Wind AA struck and remove his endure ability before I can heal. Like all tanky end game mobs, you need good runes, not just 6 star violent runes, but one which gives u decent substats especially in Speed.

The Briand/Chasun/Eladriel comp is good sustain team but vulnerable to double lushen. But you can make a double lushen trap. Example, use 6x shield runes on Briand and some on chasun or eladriel. But you must decide what you want your AD to do, if sustain, don't expect you can have successful defense because people will still attack you, but a good sustain team will help you during rush hour as people will avoid attacking you. A burst team defense, which somehow everyone feels is the right way because they can see "Defense Successful" is a trap AD imho. Because that defense will be good in midweek arena but bad for rush hour. And worse just people try to make hybrid between the two, e.g. like Eladriel-Chasun-Briand-Lushen/Julien.

Not too sure what other mobs you have, but don't abandon your Eladriel. =) tune it and make him a nightmare for everyone who plans to visit your arena, whether midweek or rush hour. =)

LoL then the truck driven by the Ferrari driver might beat the Ferrari driven by the truck driver

Water Dragon Knight overpowered? Chow? OMG. Take mine. Useless except for PvE. That also it is useless with so much other better farmable/fuseable mob.

I know not all mobs are all-rounder. Which is why I am just saying Chow is no where near overpowered as he sucks in Arena/Guild war mostly and even in places where he suppose to excel (i.e. Dragon/Giant), there are better, farmable and much more accessible mobs than him for him to be considered "overpowered".

And of course, he have totally no use/contribution in ToA. So tell me how is he "overpowered"? LoL

LoL if only we can swap. I have been killed by Fire MK before but I don't see any problems with Chow in PvP.

I think one of YDCB videos also he got killed by Fire MK in guild war. He deals decent dmg if runed as DPS. In guild war he may not win you the entire match but if he can kill 1-2 mobs also I think good enough as it will limit the opponents resources for future battles. There isn't many tanky Fire DPS out there. Jean, Kahli, Raoq are normally glass cannons. Arnolds is tanky but his "one-time DPS" is sometimes not sufficient and frequent enough. Hwa can be with proper runes. So the option for Fire DPS is really limited imho.

Decent fire tanky ones like Perna, Fire Beastmonks, Brandia being NB5, are not so accessible. Consider yourself lucky to have a decent fire DPS =)

Compared that to a Chow.... you have problems auto-ing Drgn/Giant b10? you sure you want a Chow? if runed properly, yes he can solo or auto b10s, but probably you need to sit back and watch a drama series while he do so as he will probably make he run like freaking long as he kills by applying DoTs. (which make drgn run EVEN longer since u need to go for right tower before straight to Drgn).

Imho, Chow good for early-mid game as he is self-sustain (you need don't a lot of support mob for heal) and helps to clear certain PvE stages fairly easily with mediocre runes.

Once u hit end-game, he is like Chow Chow the Dog. Nice to see. Nice to have as a pet in your island. Nothing else. LoL

LoL. That is why your rate on Fire MK is so low. Cause you already have 2 decent tanky Fire DPS ! Probably want a water DPS or so but just use theomars is much better than Chow. =)

I have am probably like you, except that most of my DPS skewed towards Water element. Probably that is why I see Chow is crap next to Taor, Sigma, Camilia and Theomars. LoL

This post has been edited by draky: Jul 29 2015, 11:20 AM

Yea. So much options at your disposal. Can see a strong GW defense line up with Annavel, Theomars, Rakan, Zaiross and adding fire MK to the mix. =)

Glhf

We all have sentimental values for Water Fairy. But later on, even if you are F2P, there are better more reliable mobs like Ahman and Bella for the support role. They don't disable (except Ahman partially disabling by provoking an enemy), but their heal is much stronger and bella's armor break and buff removal is very very relevant.

Suggest keep her at 5 star and once you get bella/ahman you can use her to make your next 6 star. =)

All just pure RNG seriously. I did not do any rituals when I pulled my NB5.

Best ritual to have higher chance of summoning is basically, summon more scrolls or summon more frequently. =)

Other than that, just pray and wait till its "your turn" to get one. =)

Oooo Perna. Nice. She is my mvp in clearing TOA 70 today. Good sustainer and dmg dealer.

My Perna is on Violent/Blade, atk/CD/hp%.

HP: +12,700
ATK: +970
DEF: +260
SPD: +60
Crit rate: 74%
Crit Dmg: 149%

Not DPS built. Just need him to be fast and tanky while dealing decent dmg.

Wilson, You on asia or global?

I am on Asia too.

LoL. Yea, my Perna built to tank/sustain/heal/stun. not for damage =)

Sounds good/solid AD. Especially if all of them are on violent runes. Darion is good as perna heal but sometimes I find bella is equally irritating/threatening.

Got 1 MS from clearing Fire Dungeon as part of daily mission.

Summoned.... PUNDEK .... (wind pioneer). and my list of mediocre/rubbish NB5 continues.

Ya and to do that you need to ensure all the stars and moons are aligned. (i.e. require a lot of setup, armor buff, defense down, a few negative effects..etc. etc.).

I rather just, buff lushen and double lushen them all. LoL

If mana run, isn't Dragon B10 better? Runes sells better. Vampire runes $$$$$

don't see much speed team here. Used chloe for immunity against those beast monks mainly for me..