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post May 20 2015, 11:57 PM, updated 11y ago

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hi

let' start with a list of downlight and you comment based on your experience.

1)Laniber (Avalon)
2)PAK (Avalon)
2)YetPlus (Top ten & House of lighting
3)NSB (House of lighing)
4)philip (Wong and Tsen)
5)Osram (Wong electric)
6)Eluminiz (Wong electric sendiri import)
7)Sora (bathcare shop)
8)GE (House lighting)
9)CYK(Top Ten)


any comment on those ?

personally i still survey ,today when wong electric shop to buy downlight , can't find yetplus but they recommend eluminiz ..

I plan to get few brand and split into my different room.

i think yetplus is good to go..how about other ?

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post May 21 2015, 12:54 AM

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Actually buy cheapo LED downlight not much diff with popular brand. philips and osram price is high compared to NSB. Now puchong Houses Lighting selling cheap for NSB LED lighting, 4inch rm29 ,6inch rm39. Both price are inclusive GST.
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QUOTE(jeshem @ May 21 2015, 12:54 AM)
Actually buy cheapo LED downlight not much diff with popular brand. philips and osram price is high compared to NSB. Now puchong Houses Lighting selling cheap for NSB LED lighting, 4inch rm29 ,6inch rm39. Both price are inclusive GST.
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NSB how long warranty ?
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QUOTE(mghong @ May 20 2015, 11:57 PM)
hi

let' start with a list of downlight and you comment based on your experience.

1)Laniber
2)YetPlus
3)NSB
4)philip
5)Osram
6)Eluminiz
any comment on those ?

personally i still survey ,today when wong electric shop to buy downlight , can't find yetplus but they recommend eluminiz ..

I plan to get few brand and split into my different room.

i think yetplus is good to go..how about other ?
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There is 1 brand which are very reliable. Ecosmart. But it don't sell here. Been using it for almost 3yrs.
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QUOTE(jeshem @ May 21 2015, 12:54 AM)
Actually buy cheapo LED downlight not much diff with popular brand. philips and osram price is high compared to NSB. Now puchong Houses Lighting selling cheap for NSB LED lighting, 4inch rm29 ,6inch rm39. Both price are inclusive GST.
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What for if just looking at the price. If it keep burn out, it is still a crap quality.
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post May 21 2015, 10:42 AM

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I heard from shop owner in PJ saying NSB quality very good, installed her own house 2 years plus still bright and did not burn out. Anyone have experience with NSB?
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QUOTE(Benster124 @ May 21 2015, 10:42 AM)
I heard from shop owner in PJ saying NSB quality very good, installed her own house 2 years plus still bright and did not burn out. Anyone have experience with NSB?
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Hmm... hmm.gif Can trust ?
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post May 21 2015, 10:55 AM

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What about Otali?
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My light guy recommended me NSB la.. cheaper than the other brands..
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post May 21 2015, 12:41 PM

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Many just OEM from same factory. In the manufacturing line, there are rejected quality, QA quality. Is all depend what quality they take.
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post May 21 2015, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 21 2015, 12:41 PM)
Many just OEM from same factory. In the manufacturing line, there are rejected quality, QA quality. Is all depend what quality they take.
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LED light are easy business. You and I also can open this led light business without high cost.

Source the material from china. Get the lowest price. You want complete OEM or assembly yourself. Apa pun boleh. Ship in container. Get a comfortable price and sell.

For quality, that talk later. You see most of the ppl are not looking at quality. What they want is the lowest price.
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QUOTE(ozak @ May 21 2015, 12:56 PM)
LED light are easy business. You and I also can open this led light business without high cost.

Source the material from china. Get the lowest price. You want complete OEM or assembly yourself. Apa pun boleh.  Ship in container. Get a comfortable price and sell.

For quality, that talk later. You see most of the ppl are not looking at quality. What they want is the lowest price.
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RM 7 for a downlight shell, some can even go lower. Vs a solid build costing around RM 20+ buyer are blinded with the cheap price.
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post May 21 2015, 03:23 PM

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I just heard Phillip and Osram. Others one never heard before.
But i used normal light not LED Phillip is higher and brighter other one.
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post May 21 2015, 09:26 PM

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im using vekocy brand. also recomend YTL ,ledeon,feelight

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post May 21 2015, 10:58 PM

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Sora leh? Any comment?
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post May 21 2015, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(bernking @ May 21 2015, 10:55 AM)
What about Otali?
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Wong electric in PJ is selling this , so far they said still ok but i did't bought the led bulb , i bought a china make one cheaper...call FBL...smile.gif


QUOTE(shaoching @ May 21 2015, 09:26 PM)
im using vekocy brand. also recomend YTL ,ledeon,feelight
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Personally i prefer YetPlus although same also import from China but they give 2 yr warranty wow... Today i just went house lighting (Yetplus bigger reseller) they dont have my model so i got no choice but to sampu
NSB for my toilet use.hahahah.


QUOTE(stinky @ May 21 2015, 10:58 PM)
Sora leh? Any comment?
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I saw Sora at those bathcare shop ..price almost like philip, GE range..but can dim leh.. up to you ..if i got enough cash i will try some..no harm.

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QUOTE(mghong @ May 21 2015, 11:08 PM)
Wong electric in PJ is selling this , so far they said still ok but i did't bought the led bulb , i bought a china make one cheaper...call FBL...smile.gif
Personally i prefer YetPlus although same also import from China but they give 2 yr warranty wow... Today i just went house lighting (Yetplus bigger reseller) they dont have my model so i got no choice but to sampu
NSB for my toilet use.hahahah.
I saw Sora at those bathcare shop ..price almost like philip, GE range..but can dim leh.. up to you ..if i got enough cash i will try some..no harm.
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Sora I found quite cheap. About rm60 each, non dim able. 12watts with close to 1000 lumens.
But is also considering NSB.

Can give review on NSB? You got the multicolor or fix 1 color one?
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QUOTE(stinky @ May 21 2015, 11:30 PM)
Sora I found quite cheap. About rm60 each, non dim able. 12watts with close to 1000 lumens.
But is also considering NSB.

Can give review on NSB? You got the multicolor or fix 1 color one?
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I look at the Single color one although price different not much , but i dont really trust those mechanic of click & change color.

Will only install next week by my wireless as he not free this week ..

I found below guideline from one of the led light producer.. , maybe you can use it.

WarmWhite for living , bedroom , hallway
white to cool white - kitchen , study , bathroom, office.
daylight - commercial area.


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QUOTE(mghong @ May 21 2015, 11:36 PM)
I look at the Single color one although price different not much , but i dont really trust those mechanic of click & change color.

Will only install next week by my wireless as he not free this week ..

I found below guideline from one of the led light producer.. , maybe you can use it.

WarmWhite for living , bedroom , hallway
white to cool white - kitchen , study , bathroom, office.
daylight - commercial area.
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Thanks for sharing. Do share photos of the colors once installed. wink.gif
Pm me the price and model number u got for NSB. I can use for my reference. biggrin.gif

I seldom see cool white.
Most are either selling Warm white 3k or daylight 6k only

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post May 22 2015, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(stinky @ May 21 2015, 11:43 PM)
Thanks for sharing. Do share photos of the colors once installed. wink.gif
Pm me the price and model number u got for NSB. I can use for my reference.  biggrin.gif

I seldom see cool white.
Most are either selling Warm white 3k or daylight 6k only
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I'm using 4000K. Not sure what you call this.
It's not bluish white like 5000-6500K. A tinge of yellow in it. It's a very nice color and bright enough for kitchen and bathroom. I used to like 2700-3000K but now I find it to be too yellow. If 3500K that would be perfect I think but I can't find it.

Did you buy the hitachi fridge bro? biggrin.gif

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post May 22 2015, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 22 2015, 05:42 AM)
I'm using 4000K. Not sure what you call this.
It's not bluish white like 5000-6500K. A tinge of yellow in it. It's a very nice color and bright enough for kitchen and bathroom. I used to like 2700-3000K but now I find it to be too yellow. If 3500K that would be perfect I think but I can't find it.

Did you buy the hitachi fridge bro? biggrin.gif
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You mean the one in the center? 4k.
What brand one you got, what price ah?

And yeah I ordered the fridge but it will be delivered in 1 mths time. Still renovating smile.gif

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post May 22 2015, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(stinky @ May 22 2015, 07:04 AM)
You mean the one in the center? 4k.
What brand one you got, what price ah?

And yeah I ordered the fridge but it will be delivered in 1 mths time. Still renovating smile.gif
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Using Philips MR16 holder
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And this Philip MR16 bulb -
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The transformer or driver -
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Whole set about Rm100

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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 22 2015, 08:08 AM)
Using Philips holder
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And this Philip bulb -
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The transformer or driver -
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Whole set about Rm100
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Is this the halogen holder? Philip have many nice downlight holder but not many carry this brand. Solid build.
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post May 22 2015, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ May 22 2015, 09:21 AM)
Is this the halogen holder? Philip have many nice downlight holder but not many carry this brand. Solid build.
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Yes MR16 typical of halogen light
Got square and round. Other colors too I think
Code QBS027 etc

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post May 23 2015, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(mghong @ May 21 2015, 11:08 PM)
Wong electric in PJ is selling this , so far they said still ok but i did't bought the led bulb , i bought a china make one cheaper...call FBL...smile.gif
Personally i prefer YetPlus although same also import from China but they give 2 yr warranty wow... Today i just went house lighting (Yetplus bigger reseller) they dont have my model so i got no choice but to sampu
NSB for my toilet use.hahahah.
I saw Sora at those bathcare shop ..price almost like philip, GE range..but can dim leh.. up to you ..if i got enough cash i will try some..no harm.
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jz I prefer durability and quality. warranty is no use for me as if d light always black out and I need to claim up n down to change it....
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WOng got sell most of the philip brand , and more friendly approach as well.

as for durability ,although some seller said use >RM70 will last longer, there is no feedback on their brand except maybe philip,osram,GE.

I ready to try yetplus & NSB + another samsung chipset first . (touch wood hopefully they last at least 1 yr)..

i will go down house of lighting to stock up some of those unit just in case

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post May 24 2015, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 22 2015, 05:42 AM)
I'm using 4000K. Not sure what you call this.
It's not bluish white like 5000-6500K. A tinge of yellow in it. It's a very nice color and bright enough for kitchen and bathroom. I used to like 2700-3000K but now I find it to be too yellow. If 3500K that would be perfect I think but I can't find it.

Did you buy the hitachi fridge bro? biggrin.gif
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Can show us the picture of the effect of colour using 4000k ,please? notworthy.gif thanks

And actually what OEM means ?
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QUOTE(stinky @ May 22 2015, 07:04 AM)
You mean the one in the center? 4k.
What brand one you got, what price ah?

And yeah I ordered the fridge but it will be delivered in 1 mths time. Still renovating smile.gif
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Hi stinky gor,the hitachi fridge,what price you purchase? Thanks
Is it the cheapest price u can find in market now...waiting for your renovation post and picture
rclxms.gif congratulation four move in your home sweet home
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Hi what means OEM products? Thanks
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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 22 2015, 09:39 AM)
Yes MR16 typical of halogen light
Got square and round. Other colors too I think
Code QBS027 etc
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Which shop you get this rm100 1 set , can give me the address please? Thanks
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QUOTE(Mrmr @ May 24 2015, 09:57 AM)
Hi stinky gor,the hitachi fridge,what price you purchase? Thanks
Is it the cheapest price u can find in market now...waiting for your renovation post and picture
rclxms.gif congratulation four move in your home sweet home
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I got the hitachi from Seng Heng rm3200 after rebate.
Harvey Norman about rm3400
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QUOTE(mghong @ May 24 2015, 09:08 AM)
WOng got sell most of the philip brand , and more friendly approach as well.

as for durability ,although some seller said use >RM70 will last longer, there is no feedback on their brand except maybe philip,osram,GE.

I ready to try yetplus & NSB + another samsung chipset first . (touch wood hopefully they last at least 1 yr)..

i will go down house of lighting to stock up some of those unit just in case
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I also looking to buy LED downlight for my new house, did lock in some price for Yetplus, but have no idea of it's quality.

Any users used before and can comment?
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i have 40 pcs of 4'' round glass vekocy daylight downlight to sell....reason I feel I still prefer coolwhite or warm white...lolz, it's new, if interest jz pm me... tqvm
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QUOTE(shaoching @ May 24 2015, 01:49 PM)
i have 40 pcs of 4'' round glass vekocy daylight downlight to sell....reason I feel I still prefer coolwhite or warm white...lolz, it's new, if interest jz pm me... tqvm
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bro , it seen like most of the shop left only daylight , short of coolwhite and yellow . I believe majority of us as same favor as you ..smile.gif
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QUOTE(jeshem @ May 21 2015, 12:54 AM)
Actually buy cheapo LED downlight not much diff with popular brand. philips and osram price is high compared to NSB. Now puchong Houses Lighting selling cheap for NSB LED lighting, 4inch rm29 ,6inch rm39. Both price are inclusive GST.
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Hi, can u share the shop name & location?tq

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Its only rm27 for 4" & rm35 for 6" , gst inclusive . Just went there last weekend .

Houses lighting
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No.33 & 35, Jalan BPU 6,
Bandar Puchong Utama,
47100 Puchong,Selangor.
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I fact the price with glass also not much diff too ...really cheap sales
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Nsb downlight how many years warrantee?
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post Jun 7 2015, 12:13 AM

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1 year warranty
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QUOTE(mghong @ Jun 7 2015, 12:13 AM)
1 year warranty
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Do you mind sharing the specs for NSB?
Lumens per watt and CRI. plaster ceiling starting this week or next so need to get my downlight real soon
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QUOTE(stinky @ Jun 8 2015, 06:27 AM)
Do you mind sharing the specs for NSB?
Lumens per watt and CRI. plaster ceiling starting this week or next so need to get my downlight real soon
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There're 2 choices of the lights, one is 4 inch , one is 6inch.
If there is a room around 100sf - 150sf , you will need 4inch x 4.
If you prefer brighter, you may select 6inch x 4 ( really bright as it suitable for a family gather at living room).
if you are using 6inch light, you may choose to only switch on 2 lights at one time to save electric bill.
Note: The estimation above are for 9ft wall smile.gif


4000K(a.k.a cool white) is a bit yellowish, but it depends on your wall color and ceiling color.
The more yellowish your wall, the more yellowish the light is.
If your wall is white, you wont feel too much difference with white color.

I don't suggest you take 6000K as the light is too bright, everything will become grey+blue color instead of showing the actual item color. For example, your wall is white color, but the light will cause it looks like kinda grey+blue, the color became not really natural.

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QUOTE(Kopilowyat @ Jun 8 2015, 03:48 PM)
There're 2 choices of the lights, one is 4 inch , one is 6inch.
If there is a room around 100sf - 150sf , you will need 4inch x 4.
If you prefer brighter, you may select 6inch x 4 ( really bright as it suitable for a family gather at living room).
if you are using 6inch light, you may choose to only switch on 2 lights at one time to save electric bill.
Note: The estimation above are for 9ft wall smile.gif
4000K(a.k.a cool white) is a bit yellowish, but it depends on your wall color and ceiling color.
The more yellowish your wall, the more yellowish the light is.
If your wall is white, you wont feel too much difference with white color.

I don't suggest you take 6000K as the light is too bright, everything will become grey+blue color instead of showing the actual item color. For example, your wall is white color, but the light will cause it looks like kinda grey+blue, the color became not really natural.
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Another NSB user.
Adding on, lumens claimed for NSB is 100lumen/w, something in that vicinity. 4" is 12W, and 6" is 18W. No idea on the claimed lumens as I don't have a lumen meter, but rated wattage is more or less accurate after testing.

Seconded about 6000K, you don't want to be using that color temperature in places other than where you'll be doing work or makeup etc. as it can be harsh on the eyes. Your home might end up looking like a lab lol.

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jun 8 2015, 08:46 PM)

Another NSB user.
Adding on, lumens claimed for NSB is 100lumen/w, something in that vicinity. 4" is 12W, and 6" is 18W. No idea on the claimed lumens as I don't have a lumen meter, but rated wattage is more or less accurate after testing.

Seconded about 6000K, you don't want to be using that color temperature in places other than where you'll be doing work or makeup etc. as it can be harsh on the eyes. Your home might end up looking like a lab lol.

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jun 8 2015, 08:46 PM)

Another NSB user.
Adding on, lumens claimed for NSB is 100lumen/w, something in that vicinity. 4" is 12W, and 6" is 18W. No idea on the claimed lumens as I don't have a lumen meter, but rated wattage is more or less accurate after testing.

Seconded about 6000K, you don't want to be using that color temperature in places other than where you'll be doing work or makeup etc. as it can be harsh on the eyes. Your home might end up looking like a lab lol.

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4000k light can read newspaper or not?
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QUOTE(stinky @ Jun 8 2015, 09:33 PM)
4000k light can read newspaper or not?
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Yep. Shouldn't be a problem. It's like natural light.
6000k above is for when you need things to be really precise, like cooking or washing things. Every imperfection seems to turn up under those lights, they don't hide anything due to their spectrum. Of course it'll be good for reading newspaper too since "more accurate", but balance between eye strain and accuracy.

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QUOTE(stinky @ Jun 8 2015, 09:33 PM)
4000k light can read newspaper or not?
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More than enough biggrin.gif
It doesn't look like orange color as 2700K (Warm White)
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Ooo..

I choice 6000k/Whitefor my living area , mix 6000k +3500k for dining.

all bedroom , i use 3500k(yellow) , toilet i prefer to use 4000k(yellow+white) . so far it fit my house.

for outdoor i will suggest to take at least 18w or 24w if your car porch is taller + wider.

my neighbor put like at least 20 downlight for his car porch(different people different
tast)...

alway ask your wiringman to build extra switch for example 2 switch for 4 downlight..at least you can close half of them (most wireman charge per downlight is rm120, of cause the more switch we request is better but not individual like 1swtich-1downlight.


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I'm leaning towards NSB now. Getting this over Sora due to the price.

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my gf hates 3500k. she only allows me to use 6000k led
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[quote=leonhart88,Jun 10 2015, 10:25 AM]
my gf hates 3500k. she only allows me to use 6000k led
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Can share your 6k lighting setup? Wanna see if got feel or not
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jun 10 2015, 10:25 AM)
my gf hates 3500k. she only allows me to use 6000k led
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6000k is so clinical. It's like staying in a hospital. How can anyone stand it for long periods of time?
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jun 10 2015, 09:11 PM)
6000k is so clinical. It's like staying in a hospital. How can anyone stand it for long periods of time?
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A big no no for 6000K, especially rooms. I only have my toilet lights 6000K because my tiles are brownish yellow, I don't want 4000K light make my toilet become even yellowish.
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6000k is so clinical. It's like staying in a hospital. How can anyone stand it for long periods of time?
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I saw a lot of people bought 6000K LED lights from houses lighting.
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I use 6000k for living n dinner.. I prefer white when enjoy my tv n food haha too dark is not my tea ..

Anyhow I split into few switch at least I can off few pair if not using
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kekkeee my current living hall using 3000k , ended up I wearing wrong pair of socks (blue +black) to work.... lol

I will stick warm white for new house and track light warm yellow for decoration.
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Light temperature really personal preference nothing, some like it daylight (5500-6500), some like it bit yellowish 4000+, some like it very yellow 3000..

Personally I hate having daylight temperature that are not bright enough.

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Light temperature really personal preference nothing, some like it daylight (5500-6500), some like it bit yellowish 4000+, some like it very yellow 3000..

Personally I hate having daylight temperature that are not bright enough.
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Now Phillips 4" are selling at 24.90 at pudu and 29.90 in puchong the shop beside house of light, do you ask think any chance is fake Phillips??
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maybe ...too cheap to be true.
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Now Phillips 4" are selling at 24.90 at pudu and 29.90 in puchong the shop beside house of light, do you ask think any chance is fake Phillips??
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Anyone using Laniber before? Price wise is very similiar to NSB according to the In home fair price last week.

btw, Laniber is 2 yrs warrantty & NSB is 1 yr warrantty.

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Laniber...i saw it before at one shop in puchong..or Avalon also selling it too.. but price is abit higher then NSB...
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my NSB downlight, 50% are produced in Nov 2014 and 50% produced in June 2015.

Damn it, hole size is different!
also the 2015 version comes in IP44, water proof. Can see rubber seal at the cable from driver to LED.

Had to bring in contractor to enlarge holes for the lights.
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any idea where to get Philips brand downlight?
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I thought Laniber is going to EOL (stop production) that what the Avalon sales told me that is why I bought another brand at Avalon, PAX LED

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I thought Laniber is going to EOL (stop production) that what the Avalon sales told me that is why I bought another brand at Avalon, PAX LED
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bro...not cheap right ? almost same price like Osram/GE/Philip...
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Thai is the respon i dont get from them ..


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NSB 12w RM27, 18w RM37

house of light puchong

I think mostly I will go for this in coming weekend
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Dear sifus,
My room has two light points with one switch. I plan to install 4 downlights with two switches.
Is there anyway for me to not hack the wall for wiring and install new switch (with two switches).
Is there such a thing I can use that, say, if I switch on once, will light up two downlights. Switch off then on once more, will light up all four etc. (Just like some lightings with LED and bulb).
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QUOTE(mghong @ Jun 10 2015, 01:47 AM)
Ooo..

I choice 6000k/Whitefor my living area , mix 6000k +3500k for dining.

all bedroom , i use 3500k(yellow) , toilet i prefer to use 4000k(yellow+white) . so far it fit my house.

for outdoor i will suggest to take at least 18w or 24w if your car porch is taller + wider.

my neighbor put like at least 20 downlight for his car porch(different people different
tast)...

alway ask your wiringman to build extra switch for example 2 switch for 4 downlight..at least you can close half of them (most wireman charge per downlight is rm120, of cause the more switch we request is better but not individual like 1swtich-1downlight.
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we made a mistake when doing up the lighting when first move in. one of the switch was connected to 9 DL, the other 6 DL. contractor did not advise and since its a new house for us, we also didnt know

going to do renovation and redo wiring, also add some more power sockets, its never enough hmm.gif
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Which one more suitable for living room?

4000k or 6500k?? which one good for eyes?
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Which one more suitable for living room?

4000k or 6500k?? which one good for eyes?
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based on some guide outside.

warmwhite for sleeping.

living daylight

dining coolwhite..

toilet - i pick day light..i prefer bright because my tiles original is all black..dont want to see cicak and step on it...(FYI i'm 4x old eye also blur blur ahahah )

but it just about your own taste..u can buy in bulk for 3 different color and mix it when u want..
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we made a mistake when doing up the lighting when first move in. one of the switch was connected to 9 DL, the other 6 DL. contractor did not advise and since its a new house for us, we also didnt know

going to do renovation and redo wiring, also add some more power sockets, its never enough  hmm.gif
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it never enough and it will cost you 10k for whole house rewiring..

try to split to few switch for pair of DL , at least u can customize the lighting in your environment or even save electricity bill.

power socket you need to beware , like oven/water boiler /water pump/aircon all require high capacity...other all normal.
tv area at least 4 power socket (astro, LED,Player,Switch/NAS) ...u know lah.
room at least 2 power socket in either wall..so cleaning/vacuum/..

do remember to fix some lighting point for wall light for kid..we do a mistake for not fixing any wall light and just go for DL ..(kid mah)

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wanna ask the led lighting that come with driver without earth connector. so just ignore doing earthing?

nowadays very cheap. frosted LED lighting 4" just cost RM17.50 and come with warranty. cheaper than those downlight with light bulb sweat.gif
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wanna ask the led lighting that come with driver without earth connector. so just ignore doing earthing?

nowadays very cheap. frosted LED lighting 4" just cost RM17.50 and come with warranty. cheaper than those downlight with light bulb sweat.gif
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Once the driver burn, it should isolated from the lamp.

But if you worry, just see you can attach an earth wire on the lamp metal plate.
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Once the driver burn, it should isolated from the lamp.

But if you worry, just see you can attach an earth wire on the lamp metal plate.
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ohh. then will just ignore. the led quite flat therefore no spot to clip on sweat.gif
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ohh. then will just ignore. the led quite flat therefore no spot to clip on sweat.gif
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Got to be careful.
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Don't take my word completely. I don't no how is the China cheap DL quality.

Got to be careful.
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Hi guys, will it be weird, if let say i have 3 pair 12w in living hall for 13' x 15' space, where for the front (TV) and middle hall using 3500k, 6500k for sofa section reading purpose?
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Hi guys, will it be weird, if let say i have 3 pair 12w in living hall for 13' x 15' space, where for the front (TV) and middle hall using 3500k, 6500k for sofa section reading purpose?
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don't turn on both at the same time should be ok.. diff colour temperatures will confuse eyes/brain.. the mood of the space also mixed up.
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Hi guys, will it be weird, if let say i have 3 pair 12w in living hall for 13' x 15' space, where for the front (TV) and middle hall using 3500k, 6500k for sofa section reading purpose?
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Do not on them all together at the same time should be ok.
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Hi guys, has anyone use ADD led downlight before, brightness same as Fantas and also giving 2 years warranty.
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the reflector of my downlight always fell down when a huge lorry passes my house. i think the spring is kinda weak.
what can i do to fix it?

which brand has the brightest fluorescent bulb?

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Guys,

I have a concern here...what is the best solution for downlight here in term of electricity cost saving and easier maintenance (replacing faulty item)?

1. Using energy saving bulb downlight with casing
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2. Using LED downlight

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I have a concern here...what is the best solution for downlight here in term of electricity cost saving and easier maintenance (replacing faulty item)?

1. Using energy saving bulb downlight with casing
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It's depending the ceiling height for the plaster ceiling. Now the trend all using LED downlight compare the size with those casing more slimmer for LED. However if maintenance prefer use casing. And now a lot of LED bulb can replace for energy saving bulbs, cost of LED bulb will be higher abit.
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QUOTE(Elflied @ Mar 6 2016, 01:52 AM)
It's depending the ceiling height for the plaster ceiling. Now the trend all using LED downlight compare the size with those casing more slimmer for LED. However if maintenance prefer use casing. And now a lot of LED bulb can replace for energy saving bulbs, cost of LED bulb will be higher abit.
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Depends what brand, type and watt of the LED bulb. Some are cheaper than a set of LED downlight.
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Guys.... Need some advice...
Want to only install only one downlight for living area of 16 x 16
Is 18w downlight sufficient?
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been using Philips downlight model DN051B since January 2013. Still good. Total qty: 9
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Guys.... Need some advice...
Want to only install only one downlight for living area of 16 x 16
Is 18w downlight sufficient?
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Not sufficient for downlight. Usually 18W is around 6" round downlight. It will not cover the whole area. You need more downlights to cover the whole area.
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QUOTE(raw7118 @ Jun 26 2016, 01:04 AM)
Guys.... Need some advice...
Want to only install only one downlight for living area of 16 x 16
Is 18w downlight sufficient?
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My 12x12 also need 4x2bulbs 18watt downlight to have bright level of my preference, 16x16 one 18watt maybe good go for dimming, what the area for? Of just watching movies maybe is ok. If want ti use the area for reading will be bad.

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My living area is about 11x20, i have L box on ceiling amd also woth 4 set of downlight, each set have 2x18watt, if i want to watch movie, will switch on the downlight, if want bright will switch on the L box light. For normal brightness, think 4 set is good.
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Hi. I'm looking for NSB 12w square downlight. Any online seller can recommend? What's the price currently? And anyone can help to provide the casing size and cutting size for it? Thanks.
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Of all the discussion on LED downlight, it is mostly on cost, reliability and specs, but did anyone got the concern on downlight replacement?
The spring design looks like installation friendly but don't think so is replacement friendly as it might damage the plaster ceiling...
At 1st, I'm kinda interested to install LED downlight for my house but on 2nd look on the spring design, it might drive me away from LED downlight as thinking on the replacement in future...

Or the spring might just looks solid and strong but in fact, it is kinda soft and will not damage the plaster ceiling?
Any sifu here can share the thought on it?
Thanks...
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QUOTE(micro_machine_77 @ Oct 27 2016, 12:22 AM)
Of all the discussion on LED downlight, it is mostly on cost, reliability and specs, but did anyone got the concern on downlight replacement?
The spring design looks like installation friendly but don't think so is replacement friendly as it might damage the plaster ceiling...
At 1st, I'm kinda interested to install LED downlight for my house but on 2nd look on the spring design, it might drive me away from LED downlight as thinking on the replacement in future...

Or the spring might just looks solid and strong but in fact, it is kinda soft and will not damage the plaster ceiling?
Any sifu here can share the thought on it?
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Of all the discussion on LED downlight, it is mostly on cost, reliability and specs, but did anyone got the concern on downlight replacement?
The spring design looks like installation friendly but don't think so is replacement friendly as it might damage the plaster ceiling...
At 1st, I'm kinda interested to install LED downlight for my house but on 2nd look on the spring design, it might drive me away from LED downlight as thinking on the replacement in future...

Or the spring might just looks solid and strong but in fact, it is kinda soft and will not damage the plaster ceiling?
Any sifu here can share the thought on it?
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Use the conventional downlight with the LED bulb.

Change the bulb only when spoil.
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Use the conventional downlight with the LED bulb.

Change the bulb only when spoil.
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Hi ozak,
Thanks for the comment and I thought of the same too where is it possible to get a light holder and plug in LED Bulb...
Any good brand for light holder can recommend?
Thanks.
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Use cfl downlight with external choke. Reliable and long lasting.
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Use cfl downlight with external choke. Reliable and long lasting.
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Hi weikee,
Thanks for the comment.
Looks like the option will be to get a light holder to hold either LED or CFL light bulb instead of getting those LED downlight which come in a set with spring that does not looks like plaster ceiling friendly...
Any good brand to recommend on the light holder and light bulb (LED or CFL) ?
Thanks.
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Hi ozak,
Thanks for the comment and I thought of the same too where is it possible to get a light holder and plug in LED Bulb...
Any good brand for light holder can recommend?
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You don't need any brand for the downlight frame. You like the design and the look, just get it.

I believe there is no branded downlight frame around.

You only need to get a good LED bulb.
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Hi weikee,
Thanks for the comment.
Looks like the option will be to get a light holder to hold either LED or CFL light bulb instead of getting those LED downlight which come in a set with spring that does not looks like plaster ceiling friendly...
Any good brand to recommend on the light holder and light bulb (LED or CFL) ?
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CFL and LED compatible will be E27, but e27 CFL is build in choke, and is not reliable.
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CFL and LED compatible will be E27, but e27 CFL is build in choke, and is not reliable.
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Nowadays still can find those E27 casing with external choke ?
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Nowadays still can find those E27 casing with external choke ?
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E27 don't have with external choke. With external choke is different fitting and no led direct replacement.

External choke fitting is like PLC, PLL, PLT, PLS housing type. My house are using external choke type can't recall is plc or PLS, and I have not change a single bulb since I move in (2011) touch wood. The only disadvantages is flicking when start after that is ok.

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i have a track light installed on my ceiling
and now i have bought pendant lights that will attach to the existing track using the track holder
my question is, can i add an 'in line cord switch' for that pendant?

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Hi, does anyone know any shop in PJ selling NSB downlight other than house lighting? Puchong is quite far away from my house. Thanks.
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QUOTE(jeshem @ May 21 2015, 12:54 AM)
Actually buy cheapo LED downlight not much diff with popular brand. philips and osram price is high compared to NSB. Now puchong Houses Lighting selling cheap for NSB LED lighting, 4inch rm29 ,6inch rm39. Both price are inclusive GST.
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i had enough of cheap OEM LED brand, 1 year u can see kelip kelip. the LEd start failing. i lazy to change.

I bought LED Phillip 3 years ago it cost RM 29 per pcs. today 3 years already still working well.

Nowadays LED Philips cost RM 12-14 for 11w/13w.

osram is good too.


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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Apr 20 2019, 09:26 AM)
i had enough of cheap OEM LED brand, 1 year u can see kelip kelip. the LEd start failing. i lazy to change.

I bought LED Phillip 3 years ago it cost RM 29 per pcs.  today 3 years already still working well.

Nowadays LED Philips cost RM 12-14 for 11w/13w.

osram is good too.
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My Philips so far kaput 1 of 18 after 3.5 years
NSB 1 kaput of 4

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Apr 20 2019, 09:26 AM)
i had enough of cheap OEM LED brand, 1 year u can see kelip kelip. the LEd start failing. i lazy to change.

I bought LED Phillip 3 years ago it cost RM 29 per pcs.  today 3 years already still working well.

Nowadays LED Philips cost RM 12-14 for 11w/13w.

osram is good too.
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Where find so cheap? I bought RM30-45/each for philips
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even the expensive premium store like Ace hardware selling alot of cheap phillips LED
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ May 31 2019, 05:33 PM)
so many now bro.
even the expensive premium store like Ace hardware selling alot of cheap phillips LED
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Downlight?
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post Jun 4 2019, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(ArthurHew @ Jun 4 2019, 09:41 AM)
Downlight?
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post Jun 5 2019, 11:04 AM

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Hi,

Is it better to use those frame+LED bulb type compared to those LED downlight set (which has to change the whole set if kaput)?
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post Jun 7 2019, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(ZONX @ Jun 5 2019, 11:04 AM)
Hi,

Is it better to use those frame+LED bulb type compared to those LED downlight set (which has to change the whole set if kaput)?
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from my personal experience, the led bulb type not very long lasting, sometimes around half year need to replace the bulb already. nowadays im slowly replacing to 1 piece led downlights, so far so good in terms of brightness and durability. i think they are better than the bulb type
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QUOTE(woolala @ Apr 20 2019, 09:12 AM)
Hi, does anyone know any shop in PJ selling NSB downlight other than house lighting? Puchong is quite far away from my house. Thanks.
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NSB downlights are good. It has a separate LED driver which can be replaced on its own.

I'm using NSB downlights for 4 years and it's still functioning perfectly. Reliable. Only thing is I bought the 18 watts version, wished I bought the lower watt to save electricity.

I bought it in a shop in Puchong, that's the only place I know.
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Whats the Kelvin u all put for ur rooms?

6500K for study room
4000K for bathroom, living room and kitchen and master bed room (2 tier plaster ceiling)
3000K for external plaster ceiling living room and master bedroom

ok?
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Whats the Kelvin u all put for ur rooms?

6500K for study room
4000K for bathroom, living room and kitchen and master bed room (2 tier plaster ceiling)
3000K for external plaster ceiling living  room and master bedroom

ok?
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Toilet 6500k, others 4000k thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jun 16 2019, 08:53 PM)
Whats the Kelvin u all put for ur rooms?

6500K for study room
4000K for bathroom, living room and kitchen and master bed room (2 tier plaster ceiling)
3000K for external plaster ceiling living  room and master bedroom

ok?
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From what I read you need to seperate out task lighting , ambient lighting and accent lighting.
For example study room you can put 3000k as ambient lighting and 6500k for task lighitng.

I find 6500k very harsh and white for ambient lighting. Even shopping complex put 4000k.


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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jun 16 2019, 08:53 PM)
Whats the Kelvin u all put for ur rooms?

6500K for study room
4000K for bathroom, living room and kitchen and master bed room (2 tier plaster ceiling)
3000K for external plaster ceiling living  room and master bedroom

ok?
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Only my living room is 3000K and my store room is 6500K. Everywhere else in the house is 4000K. Prefer warm lighting. I find 6500K very harsh too.
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for reading , I prefer 4500k

6500k cause eyes tiring
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6500k store room, kitchen
4000k all bedroom, living room, bathroom, study room, car porch, lamp outside the house

is this fine? should we put 6500k for kitchen?

As for downlight, contractor suggest to choose round shape instead of square shape, his reason is square shape senget easily and it's obvious compared to round shape.. got such thing?
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QUOTE(ZONX @ Jun 19 2019, 07:01 PM)
6500k store room, kitchen
4000k all bedroom, living room, bathroom, study room, car porch, lamp outside the house

is this fine? should we put 6500k for kitchen?

As for downlight, contractor suggest to choose round shape instead of square shape, his reason is square shape senget easily and it's obvious compared to round shape.. got such thing?
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That's fine. Although tbh, you can use 4000k for kitchen too - just make sure it's bright enough, above 800 lumens.

Yes square shape easy to be installed wrongly, often times "senget" because now a days the bangla workers can't cut a proper square into the plaster ceiling. shakehead.gif
If it's round then obviously there's no way to be senget, logically speaking.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 19 2019, 07:11 PM)
That's fine. Although tbh, you can use 4000k for kitchen too - just make sure it's bright enough, above 800 lumens.

Yes square shape easy to be installed wrongly, often times "senget" because now a days the bangla workers can't cut a proper square into the plaster ceiling.  shakehead.gif
If it's round then obviously there's no way to be senget, logically speaking.
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Hi, above 800 lumens for kitchen only? or for all the areas that using 4000k?
Do you have any recommendation on the downlight to be used?
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QUOTE(ZONX @ Jun 19 2019, 07:21 PM)
Hi, above 800 lumens for kitchen only? or for all the areas that using 4000k?
Do you have any recommendation on the downlight to be used?
Thx  biggrin.gif
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For places where there is a risk of accident, of course you'd want it to be bright. A bright area subconsciously heightens the human's senses, but don't be mistaken between brightness and temperature. Kitchen, store rooms, maybe even the shower (although the shower is a lot more subjective, some people like a very "relaxing" shower) - should have brightness of above 800 lumens.

For downlights, I usually just use Phillips. I've had it with all those no-name downlights - the part that spoils in them are the drivers, not the LEDs themselves. It's gets rather annoying to change eventhough it isn't difficult.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 19 2019, 07:58 PM)
For places where there is a risk of accident, of course you'd want it to be bright. A bright area subconsciously heightens the human's senses, but don't be mistaken between brightness and temperature. Kitchen, store rooms, maybe even the shower (although the shower is a lot more subjective, some people like a very "relaxing" shower) - should have brightness of above 800 lumens.

For downlights, I usually just use Phillips. I've had it with all those no-name downlights - the part that spoils in them are the drivers, not the LEDs themselves. It's gets rather annoying to change eventhough it isn't difficult.
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I see. So in that case, even though I choose 4000k for almost all areas. But also have to decide on the lumen based on the location too.
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QUOTE(ZONX @ Jun 19 2019, 08:18 PM)
I see. So in that case, even though I choose 4000k for almost all areas. But also have to decide on the lumen based on the location too.
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Yes.

You can choose higher wattage (though be wary, because wattage now a days is used as a marketing tool and no longer for actual measurement) or more downlights. Location of the down lights in the ceiling is also kind of important, don't just lump them all together or spread them out too wide.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 19 2019, 09:20 PM)
Yes.

You can choose higher wattage (though be wary, because wattage now a days is used as a marketing tool and no longer for actual measurement) or more downlights. Location of the down lights in the ceiling is also kind of important, don't just lump them all together or spread them out too wide.
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Thanks so much for the sharing =)
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Hi,
Anyone got recommendation for led downlight that can change colour between warm light and daylight/cool light?
Thinking of replacing old school, long T8 fluorescent tube light in my room.
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anybody used this before? https://www.clipsal.com/Trade/Products/Prod...l?catno=TPDL1C1

these downlights have a 3 pin plug which needs to be connected to the below

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was wondering whether in malaysia is it common to do so? or is it possible to do it?

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Do ppl still using this type of downlight case? And out led bulb inside?
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Do ppl still using this type of downlight case? And out led bulb inside?
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Yes. My car porch is using this with LED light.
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Hi,
Anyone got recommendation for led downlight that can change colour between warm light and daylight/cool light?
Thinking of replacing old school, long T8 fluorescent tube light in my room.
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im highly considering this type too but another former said it is less durable
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Anybody use ues dowlight? It is malaysian brand, i wonder the reliability
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Any dimmable downlight with slow on off function? Planning to get all xiaomi "philips" downlight at rm50 apiece. But if got cheaper option I wanna take a look first before buying

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anyone try those downlight sell in shopee with very good ratings? not sure it can last. it is dirt cheap though.
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Sorry tumpang thread TS.. May I know what is the minimum clearance you need between the plaster ceiling and anything above it like floor slab or beam?

After planning my lighting, I only found out that two of my light position is right under a beam. My initial plan was to put plaster ceiling at beam level, However, now I think i need to lower the plaster ceiling some more to accommodate the downlight. Question is, by how much?
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jul 27 2020, 11:45 AM)
Sorry tumpang thread TS.. May I know what is the minimum clearance you need between the plaster ceiling and anything above it like floor slab or beam?

After planning my lighting, I only found out that two of my light position is right under a beam. My initial plan was to put plaster ceiling at beam level, However, now I think i need to lower the plaster ceiling some more to accommodate the downlight. Question is, by how much?
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Philips Marcasite LED square is pretty slim with only 26-29mm height . So as long as your plaster ceiling gap is larger than that and provide enough space for some heat dissipation then it is fine

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Jul 27 2020, 12:25 PM)
Philips Marcasite LED square is pretty slim with only 26-29mm height . So as long as your plaster ceiling gap is larger than that and provide enough space for some heat dissipation then it is fine
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Thank you for you answer. I saw in the leaflet for marcasite the height is 2.9cm. But on top of the 2.9 cm, how much extra allowances do we need to allocate? What about distance from beam from the side, if any?

And in the leaflet also there is "recessed distance" specification which is 5cm. What is that actually?

My floor to ceiling height I measured is 10ft and 4 inches, the beam is 14 inches and almost 1ft wide (I forgot to measure, it definitely looks wider than the normal 6 inches beam. If I level the plaster ceiling with the beam, net remaining height would be around 9ft 2 inches. How much lower should I go to install downlight directly under the beam? I will be installing ceiling fan as well, so I can't go too low.

And another restriction is that I want my ceiling to be flat. So, having different level of ceiling fan and downlight is not really preferable.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jul 27 2020, 01:39 PM)
Thank you for you answer. I saw in the leaflet for marcasite the height is 2.9cm. But on top of the 2.9 cm, how much extra allowances do we need to allocate? What about distance from beam from the side, if any?

And in the leaflet also there is "recessed distance" specification which is 5cm. What is that actually?

My floor to ceiling height I measured is 10ft and 4 inches, the beam is 14 inches and almost 1ft wide (I forgot to measure, it definitely looks wider than the normal 6 inches beam. If I level the plaster ceiling with the beam, net remaining height would be around 9ft 2 inches. How much lower should I go to install downlight directly under the beam? I will be installing ceiling fan as well, so I can't go too low.

And another restriction is that I want my ceiling to be flat. So, having different level of ceiling fan and downlight is not really preferable.
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Personally I think you should just do your plaster ceiling level with your beam and thus make your ceiling height at 9’2”.

In this case you may have to relocate your lights that you planned to be directly under the beam but I don’t think it is a big problem. If you don’t want you can also drill “holes” under your beam to put in your lights but this is not advisable as I think you can come up with better creative lighting placement solution. You may need to drill through the beam to get some wiring through too but I think it is better to get the highest ceiling you can.

With the gap between your plaster ceiling and original ceiling, it should be enough to accommodate most downlights as well as wood/steel beams for fan hooks (if needed).

I am attaching a real profile of Philips 4” marcacite. It is really slim at 29mm thickness

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Hi anyone can let me know what kind of downlight is this? The sales manager marketed to me that this is a downlight.

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Can anyone explain to me what type of downlight is this? The sales manager marketed this as a downlight to me. Not sure never come across it before this
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Jul 27 2020, 06:52 PM)
Personally I think you should just do your plaster ceiling level with your beam and thus make your ceiling height at 9’2”.

In this case you may have to relocate your lights that you planned to be directly under the beam but I don’t think it is a big problem. If you don’t want you can also drill “holes” under your beam to put in your lights but this is not advisable as I think you can come up with better creative lighting placement solution.  You may need to drill through the beam to get some wiring through too but I think it is better to get the highest ceiling you can.

With the gap between your plaster ceiling and original ceiling, it should be enough to accommodate most downlights as well as wood/steel beams for fan hooks (if needed).

I am attaching a real profile of Philips 4” marcacite. It is really slim at 29mm thickness

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Thanks.

Since there is option as slim as 29mm, I might be able take 2" off my ceiling height and make it 9' to fit the downlight if I can't find a way to rearrange my lighting position. The problem is that my living & dining hall are pretty short, so, I need to be precise to divide the two area so that I would not look so cramp, hence why I need to do a careful planning on the downlight positions.

I managed to find few options of ceiling fan with shorter than normal pipe length. So, that one pretty much solve my concern of having fan that is too low.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jul 29 2020, 02:19 PM)
Thanks.

Since there is option as slim as 29mm, I might be able take 2" off my ceiling height and make it 9' to fit the downlight if I can't find a way to rearrange my lighting position. The problem is that my living & dining hall are pretty short, so, I need to be precise to divide the two area so that I would not look so cramp, hence why I need to do a careful planning on the downlight positions.

I managed to find few options of ceiling fan with shorter than normal pipe length. So, that one pretty much solve my concern of having fan that is too low.
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While 2" may not seem a lot to you but I still think you should go max with ceiling height. Not only for fans but also higher ceiling:
1 gives your room more spacious and better look
2 provides better air ventilation
3. Your fan will be more effective with 2 extra inches

I do believe in maximizing the ceiling height

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guy any downlight with 2 tone light recommend? looking for those with brand like philips etc
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Guys.
I just install 4 downlight for my house last week.
Check this out. I bought 24watt. First time heard this brand.lol


 

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