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LeonOni
post May 20 2015, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(pw8799 @ May 19 2015, 06:30 PM)
I tried it . It's extremely lag. The Cpu usgae run up to 100% when I used the program...
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Or try to turn it into linux?
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post May 20 2015, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(LeonOni @ May 20 2015, 11:51 AM)
Or try to turn it into linux?
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Don't know how to install linux...
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post May 20 2015, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(pw8799 @ May 20 2015, 06:13 AM)
Download wat stuff ????
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.....Do you even read my previous post? pw8799


Eh, goldfries , the tutorial you posted no longer applicable since latest mpc-hc already switched to lavf some time ago.

This post has been edited by JohnLai: May 20 2015, 01:46 PM
LeonOni
post May 20 2015, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(pw8799 @ May 20 2015, 12:21 PM)
Don't know how to install linux...
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http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Ubuntu-Linux

but must choose which linux u want.. just for movies only?
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post May 20 2015, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ May 20 2015, 12:07 AM)
Not need to replace the gpu, nvidia 9200 can be used to resize (bicubic 0.75) the video just fine.
No need, actually you can offload H264 8bit video decoding to your GPU.
Then again, your CPU has enough power to do the decoding for all kinds of video format.

How to remove the codec pack stuff? It is VERY HARD. DLL HELL (this term exists, i am not kidding)
Can't exactly help you with this.

LAVF nightly has very good SSE optimization (vectorized code).

EDIT: For starter, download the stuff first.
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Hi, I have MPC-HC installed on my pc ... now , need to download it again ??? there're many .exe files in the link you provided...Need to donload and install all???
https://nightly.mpc-hc.org
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post May 20 2015, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(pw8799 @ May 20 2015, 07:37 PM)
Hi, I have MPC-HC installed on my pc ... now , need to download it again ??? there're many .exe files in the link you provided...Need to donload and install all???
https://nightly.mpc-hc.org
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Just download the portable version https://nightly.mpc-hc.org/MPC-HC.1.7.8.199.x64.7z

-.- Extract it to a folder and run it from there.

I just hope MPC-HC loads its built-in filter first because I have no idea what are previous codec pack stuff you installed before.


EDIT: Go to MPC-HC options----->Playback--->Output--->change directshow video to "Enhanced Video Renderer Custom Presenter" and change Resizer to "Bicubic A=-0.75".
Next, go to Internal Filters---->Tick ALL for Source Filters and Transform filters to ensure we use the built-in filters.
Click Video Decoder and select DXVA2 Native at Hardware Acceleration.

Click OK.

Exit and open the player again. Drag your video into the playerr and see if it lag.
If it does, check if correct video filter being loaded, right click on the player (while running the video)---->Filters---->Copy filters list to clipboard---> Paste the clipboard here.


Note: your original mpc-hc probably too OLD, get new one.

This post has been edited by JohnLai: May 20 2015, 08:06 PM
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post May 21 2015, 01:43 AM

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reinstall window
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post May 21 2015, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(kamfoo @ May 21 2015, 01:43 AM)
reinstall window
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I have previously format the windows,it's still the same....
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post May 21 2015, 08:50 AM

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before buying graphic card..
try to focus the player/codec first..
uninstall all the player/codec in your windows..
make sure no codec installed..
try to install either gomplayer/vlc/klite codec ...
gomplayer/vlc already have codec built-in meanwhile klite is a codec which can associate to MPC/WMP itself..
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post May 21 2015, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(pw8799 @ May 21 2015, 07:26 AM)
I have previously format the windows,it's still the same....
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......Have you test my recommendation above yet?
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post May 21 2015, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(zikre2003 @ May 21 2015, 08:50 AM)
before buying graphic card..
try to focus the player/codec first..
uninstall all the player/codec in your windows..
make sure no codec installed..
try to install either gomplayer/vlc/klite codec ...
gomplayer/vlc already have codec built-in meanwhile klite is a codec which can associate to MPC/WMP itself..
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How to remove the codec????
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post May 21 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(pw8799 @ May 21 2015, 03:18 PM)
How to remove the codec????
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Control Panel > Programs and Features > uninstall codec from there (ffdshow/avisyth/LAV/Haali etc)
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post May 21 2015, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(zikre2003 @ May 21 2015, 03:20 PM)
Control Panel > Programs and Features > uninstall codec from there (ffdshow/avisyth/LAV/Haali etc)
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Ok, I will try it ltr......i m working nw
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post May 21 2015, 03:49 PM

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I'd say remove all the codecs and don't install any codec packs or players,
use only the lates MPC-HC, it has LAV filters build-in and Dxva hardware acceleration is possible if gpu is supported.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 21 2015, 03:49 PM)
I'd say remove all the codecs and don't install any codec packs or players,
use only the lates MPC-HC, it has LAV filters build-in and Dxva hardware acceleration is possible if gpu is supported.
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laugh.gif I give up advising him. I already posted step by step for him on how to get MPC-HC ready and I don't think he read it....
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ May 21 2015, 04:23 PM)
laugh.gif  I give up advising him. I already posted step by step for him on how to get MPC-HC ready and I don't think he read it....
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Your instruction are too complex for non techy ppl tongue.gif

Anyway, by default MPC-HC already set EVR-CP as renderer and dxva is enabled, i've tried the x64 version.
For PC with weaker GPU need to tweak a bit, because EVR-CP is gpu resource intensive, low end GPU cant handle it and the video will play like slide show.
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post May 22 2015, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ May 21 2015, 04:23 PM)
laugh.gif  I give up advising him. I already posted step by step for him on how to get MPC-HC ready and I don't think he read it....
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Filters currently loaded:
- Default DirectSound Device
- Enhanced Video Renderer (custom presenter)
- Audio Switcher
- LAV Video Decoder (internal)
- LAV Audio Decoder (internal)
- LAV Splitter Source (internal)
lagging issue persists.... sad.gif I tried the method u mentioned earlier..... now , i can feel the mouse cursor is lagging , last time only the video is lagging , not the mouse cursor

This post has been edited by pw8799: May 22 2015, 04:27 PM
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post May 22 2015, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(pw8799 @ May 22 2015, 04:26 PM)
Filters currently loaded:
  - Default DirectSound Device
  - Enhanced Video Renderer (custom presenter)
  - Audio Switcher
  - LAV Video Decoder (internal)
  - LAV Audio Decoder (internal)
  - LAV Splitter Source (internal)
lagging issue persists.... sad.gif I tried the method u mentioned earlier..... now , i can feel the mouse cursor is lagging , last time only the video is lagging , not the mouse cursor
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Mouse cursor lagging?

First, what type of video you are trying to play? Download Mediainfo portable and drag your file into it.
http://mediaarea.net/download/binary/media...outInstaller.7z
Paste the video info here.

Second, you sure the CPU isn't throttling because of overheating caused by CPU dirty fan + heatsink fins?
HWMonitor---> run the video with mpc-hc for few second and report back the MAX temperature.

Third, make sure your GPU driver is up to date.

Fourth, are you sure the your HDD is okay? Disk seek error also can cause 'lagging'

Fifth, what is the amount of RAM installed on your pc?

Sixth, windows 64bit or 32bit?

Seventh, how much is the amount of memory allocated to your integrated gpu?

Eighth, using HWMonitor, check the max CPU clock frequency and report back.

This post has been edited by JohnLai: May 22 2015, 04:57 PM
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post May 22 2015, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ May 22 2015, 04:50 PM)
Mouse cursor lagging?

First, what type of video you are trying to play? Download Mediainfo portable and drag your file into it.
http://mediaarea.net/download/binary/media...outInstaller.7z
Paste the video info here.

Second, you sure the CPU isn't throttling because of overheating caused by CPU dirty fan + heatsink fins?
HWMonitor---> run the video with mpc-hc for few second and report back the MAX temperature.

Third, make sure your GPU driver is up to date.

Fourth, are you sure the your HDD is okay? Disk seek error also can cause 'lagging'

Fifth, what is the amount of RAM installed on your pc?

Sixth, windows 64bit or 32bit?

Seventh, how much is the amount of memory allocated to your integrated gpu?

Eighth, using HWMonitor, check the max CPU clock frequency and report back.
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1.) it's 1080p mp4
2.) cpu fan not dirty
3.) GPD id up-todate
4.) My HDD is not so good already.... the pc shop technician told me about this.
5.) 4GB DDR2
6.) 256MB DDR2
7.) win7 ultimate 64 bit
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post May 22 2015, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ May 22 2015, 04:50 PM)
Mouse cursor lagging?

First, what type of video you are trying to play? Download Mediainfo portable and drag your file into it.
http://mediaarea.net/download/binary/media...outInstaller.7z
Paste the video info here.

Second, you sure the CPU isn't throttling because of overheating caused by CPU dirty fan + heatsink fins?
HWMonitor---> run the video with mpc-hc for few second and report back the MAX temperature.

Third, make sure your GPU driver is up to date.

Fourth, are you sure the your HDD is okay? Disk seek error also can cause 'lagging'

Fifth, what is the amount of RAM installed on your pc?

Sixth, windows 64bit or 32bit?

Seventh, how much is the amount of memory allocated to your integrated gpu?

Eighth, using HWMonitor, check the max CPU clock frequency and report back.
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the max temp for cpu is about 50-52c . this is the average temp for quad core cpu ...
I clean up my cpu fans quite frequently.
Now , I cant play the video at all using MPC-HC already . An error ' cannot render the file shown' . So , I tried using VLC , it's super laggy....


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