Good job for team Fnatic.MY ! 3rd place is good but can be improved.
DOTA 2 V21, TI7 Hype! Biggest Prize Pool in E-Sport
DOTA 2 V21, TI7 Hype! Biggest Prize Pool in E-Sport
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Jun 8 2015, 01:26 PM
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Good job for team Fnatic.MY ! 3rd place is good but can be improved.
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Jun 8 2015, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(oRoXoRo @ Jun 8 2015, 01:26 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Not sure why you emphasize so much on MMR. Roughly it can gauge the player's ability but imo i won't put it into consideration at all. Also, I believe younger players should really focus on other stuff more rather than full time on dota(just my opinion) For me it is more about the team chemistry, 5 Michael Jordan in one team wont necessary better than one team with average players but better teamwork. Does sponsorship matter that much? As long as you form a team and get good result at local/online tourney, sponsorship should come automatically right. But in Malaysia, doubt you will find those big sponsor like IG etc. Maybe I'm wrong since I'm from older generation (didn't update much so dont shoot me if I'm wrong on the sponsorship part) And the main reason I replied is mostly due to the heavy emphasize on 6k MMR although you did explain on this. QUOTE(Kaizer96 @ Jun 8 2015, 09:01 PM) oRoXoRo 5K MMR above is good for competitive I would say. But other than that, team chemistry is the most crucial thing to come with.Well this is just my opinion. I'm just sharing things from my perspective, I'm not trying to prove that i'm right btw. From my perspective, individual skill comes first before chemistry and teamwork. Still, both are important. Teams full of superstars without chemistry are equally as bad as teams with good chemistry but only consist of average players. You need to have both to be considered champion material. A team with 5 Micheal Jordan are not necessarily good not because they lack chemistry or teamwork, but because all 5 of them have the same skill set. Just like in team sports, each role in Dota is unique. All 5 roles requires different skill set. Just look at past world cup winners, Spain in 2010 and Germany in 2014. Both teams are stacked with individual talents. A forward player can't play defensive position as good as a natural defender. You don't want Messi to be your goalkeeper. You might as well say a team with 5 arteezy or 5 puppey are not necessarily a champion material. Teamwork and chemistry can be worked on, but getting full 6k roster in your team is very hard, near impossible if you're nobody like me. Some of the good teamplay you see in pro dota match are indirect result of individual skill. A team that consist of 5 random 6k players will most likely beat a team of 5ks players that scrim together everyday. NCAA team can never beat an NBA all star team, no matter how good their teamwork(i might be wrong though). In the old days, getting noticed as a player were almost impossible. You need luck, good connection plus a bit of boot-licking to play in decent team. These days any average joe can get noticed, just spam solo mmr. Don't even bother forming or joining team before you're at least in upper 5k mmr bracket. Both Aui_2000 and Merlini said that top players in dota 1, i they were to play solo mmr today, at most they can only get to 4.5k mmr. That shows how much players have improved today. If your a 4.5k player, good news, you're as good as mushi back in 2010. About sponsors; Yes most players need it to be able to play full time. Some players can defer their studies for a year or two if they have financial support. How to play dota full time without money?, how can we afford food? Some have to work part time for money. Not everyone have rich parents, even millionaire parents will show their middle finger if their son said they want to play dota full time. If you want to see how much a team can benefit from having sponsors, just look at k2apes. If you follow local scene closely, you will notice the rise of k2apes as top tier 2 team(go browse e-sukan). Their sponsors provide them food and team house. All 5 of them can play dota full time, how do i even compete with them when 3 of my players are not doing it full time? Yup, sure thing. |
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Jul 31 2015, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Jul 31 2015, 07:57 AM) Aww... QUOTE(whoopa @ Jul 31 2015, 09:18 AM) His a very strong and dedicated leader. LGD is doing well all thanks to him!Fnatic News Articled Contributed by ESM Editors!!! https://www.facebook.com/persatuansukanelek...880741702002318 |
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Aug 4 2015, 05:16 PM
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Aug 5 2015, 10:29 AM
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Aug 5 2015, 12:57 PM
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Aug 8 2015, 03:40 PM
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EG / LGD / CDEC
But it could end up being the same result back in DAC... Which EG and SumaiL can do so much for now Next TI6... I guess it's major based event already like ESL. But I think CDEC have been doing just so good already at their pace. And that prize pool for them to celebrate... More than it's been said. Dreams came true! This post has been edited by sniperz: Aug 8 2015, 03:41 PM |
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Aug 9 2015, 03:20 PM
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Congratulations to EG!!! Proud of the young kid SumaiL who always got criticized around the world but I believed he will do this. CDEC had a very good run either way.
A history in the making for the young solo mid player! |
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Aug 10 2015, 08:40 AM
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Young US Pakistan boy just silenced all the internet critics with his great plays! |
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Aug 10 2015, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Aug 10 2015, 04:51 PM) that AA + ES combo whombo - juz wreck them. Good teamwork brings good result. Which team bring a lesser one will be dominated by the more teamwork-efficient players group!his storm is crazy and the support of EG to stack the NC for him when his storm is 3 down. EG got a damn good coordination overall. but going 4 times in a row with gayro Same applies to business or gaming. If you see it that way, of course people want to perfect their games... But that task needs a lot of effort and decision making. Team EG!!! |
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Aug 12 2015, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(ooorait @ Aug 12 2015, 04:45 PM) kyxy is leaving fnatic? I think so or either the team's roster is going to change. I think this also leads to me speculating that Orange would been Top 2 in TI3 if not for his deny Aegis moment. Because Mushi's OD would have two times of HP to change the game!!!KyxY @Lee_Kyxy Team reshuffle players after Ti5, im used to it and my life must goes on! Discuss. This post has been edited by sniperz: Aug 12 2015, 05:01 PM |
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Aug 15 2015, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Aug 15 2015, 04:25 PM) Would say every sports in the world have a "not-so cursing" method. You win something big. The next generation of the chosen one will get it.It's a repeating cycle. I only find amusing act-pro , betters , haters and such that's making the scene a bit "wonderful" in that sense they don't know much lol... Even if Puppey's team got first next time, they won't get it for the next... Like I said, there's a chance Chinese teams will grow up again. EG is just a very powerful team and I pretty much think (EG/Secret) have some friendship bonds... We don't know what's out there though! Evil Genius being it's title. This post has been edited by sniperz: Aug 15 2015, 05:43 PM |
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Aug 16 2015, 07:47 PM
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http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-gen...ghts-1-from-zai
From our progamer Zai. Salute to his thoughts to the forum / Reddit and the world. Well, literally to me, it's taking a tease on those "internet nobody"... To have more knowledge than average Dota 2 fans or forumers. I think zai / competitive players including me and some others share more of em' hehe. Read and learn. This post has been edited by sniperz: Aug 16 2015, 07:50 PM |
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Aug 17 2015, 10:11 AM
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Aug 19 2015, 12:47 AM
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Fnatic has yet announce. We need to see proof with photos. Don't believe what's said in the forum sometimes.
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Aug 27 2015, 12:01 PM
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Dec 6 2015, 07:23 PM
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Mountain Dew Grand Finals.
DOT (Penang) vs GIZMO (Sarawak) Sarawak has always been a state that was ignored but now it is proven that players from my side is securing big prizepool. Prediction was right. Let's do this, I root for them as I do share a lot of history of managing some players too. Also, stay tune! BO5 is on it's way. |
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Jan 2 2016, 09:50 AM
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Happy New Year 2016 to DOTA 2 V21 thread!
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Jan 3 2016, 08:00 PM
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Jan 5 2016, 04:35 PM
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Mineski-X going to do some roster change as Valve released the 322 ban list for SEA region.
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