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 Working Life in Singapore, Please Share your value Experience

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sukhoi37
post Jun 24 2008, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 23 2008, 11:55 PM)
jus take starhub connect cable no need phone line
sg wireless is quite sucky i tired b4
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I'm using singtel broadband on mobile now.
it's 2mbps, much faster than screamyx 1.5mbps at my johor hometown.
so far so good, seldom get dc.
sucky? I think you haven't try celcom and maxis yet. tongue.gif

starhub blocked p2p, and they are using share line which means the bandwith is depends on the internet traffic.
singtel broadband is otherwise.

check here for more info
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/forumdisplay.php?f=4
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post Jun 24 2008, 01:58 AM

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^You actually downloading via P2P? I thought Singapore has a strict law against P2P/Bittorent download ohmy.gif

BTW which mobile service is better? Singtel or Starhub? I heard that Singtel got a package called 128 or something like that, is it good?
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post Jun 24 2008, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Uchiha Itachi @ Jun 24 2008, 01:58 AM)
^You actually downloading via P2P? I thought Singapore has a strict law against P2P/Bittorent download  ohmy.gif

BTW which mobile service is better? Singtel or Starhub? I heard that Singtel got a package called 128 or something like that, is it good?
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ya, but most of the people don't care much about the law.
between, the highest p2p speed i got with my singtel wireless broadband 2mbps speed is 60kbps(higher than my previous screamyx laugh.gif)

please check out the link i posted.
from what i read so far, singtel is better.
both have biggest coverage in the island.
most of the users claim webpage and youtube load faster with singtel.


oops, do you mean the mobile package?
singtel is the my choice, strong signal and good coverage.
starhub signal is poor, even worse if there's a lot of people using the line.

starhub : no signal in tunnel, lift
singtel : most of the time no problem.
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that looks like dont go to sg if the salary is not above 3k?

anyone can tell me what's the salary range for operations in banking?
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post Jun 24 2008, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(J(o)y @ Jun 23 2008, 10:32 PM)
Way to go!!! Good info, as yours represent living expenses based on most updated inflation scene.
Btw, how u get a 1+1 at $550?? Last i heard is $1.1K for East side.
Urs is one living roon + one room rite?? Where is Marine Terrace?
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As I said, I’m staying with my girlfriend in a 1+1 unit. We rent it for $1100 so it is $550 for each of us. Mine is one living room and one room; but we love this place as there are no landlords nagging us, we can cook, no one fight for toilet every morning, and the list goes on laugh.gif

Marine Terrace is somewhere near Parkway Parade. The rent here is higher than nearby residential areas like Bedok because Marine Terrace is just walking distance from the beach. You can actually rent a 1+1 unit at Bedok for $900-1000, depends.

QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jun 23 2008, 10:37 PM)
ya, the first 2 months is tough.

why don't you sign the wireless broadband?
it'll be troublesome if you move to another house.
singtel will charge you for switching the port.
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Me and my girlfriend are laptop users, so it is not convenient to get wireless broadband as we have to subscribe 2 lines. Moreover we only use our laptop at home as we have our own workstation in our workplace. In the end we choose Starhub’s broadband package which is around $25 per month. The first month’s bill will be higher because there is a $30 service charge upon subscription.

Change port or not, that will be a year later and god knows if we’ll be still staying here or not. wink.gif

QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 23 2008, 11:55 PM)
jus take starhub connect cable no need phone line
sg wireless is quite sucky i tired b4
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Yup, if your unit has the satellite tv hub, getting Starhub broadband will be a cheaper choice. Singtel’s broadband is like Streamyx which it requires an active telephone line. That means you have to pay monthly phone rent on top of the broadband charges. For Starhub, just $25 per month for 2MB line.

We did surveyed around for Broadband packages on the first few days in Singapore. In the end we decided to inform our landlord and cut off the house line.

p.s. As for Singtel and Starhub’s mobile service, there is no such thing as no signal this, no signal that. Singtel and Starhub is just like Maxis and Digi. Moreover Singapore is so damn small and I highly doubt you’ll get zero signal here (perhaps you’re trying to make a call underwater, that I don’t know tongue.gif ). However the rates are a little sucky for Singapore mobile service providers… list as below (comparing my Maxis postpaid and Singtel postpaid):

- Singapore mobile service providers charges the same rate for incoming calls. Malaysia? No such thing as people call you then you have to pay to receive calls. Call rate is 16c per block for incoming and outgoing calls. However for postpaid service, usually incoming calls will be free.
- Billing sucks big time. Let’s say you get 100mins free for your postpaid package, but there are no way to keep track of your usage. Maxis postpaid allows you to keep track of your usage amount on their website.
- Itemize billing = additional cost. Maxis has itemize billing for FREE since day 1 for postpaid service.
- Caller-ID is a paid add-on service. You don’t subscribe then your phone won’t show who is calling you. $5 per month I think.
- Upon subscription PLEASE PLEASE ask them to list out all the services they’d given you for free. They charge EVERYTHING! They will activate all the add-on services for you then you have to cancel them one by one by calling their customer service. If not Tada, you’ll be surprised on your next bill.
- PLEASE DON’T EVER GO FOR PREPAID. Prepaid users are charged for incoming calls, and you have to pay a fee everyday just to enjoy free incoming calls. I subscribed Singtel prepaid in the 1st week… used up the $10 credit in just 3 days. Crappy!

Singtel is most common in Singapore, but Starhub is slightly better as it offers better features with minimal fees. There’s another provider, M1 however; charges a lot of hidden charge. I advice you go ask around Singtel or Starhub for suitable packages for you. Cheers!

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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Jun 24 2008, 09:19 AM)
that looks like dont go to sg if the salary is not above 3k?

anyone can tell me what's the salary range for operations in banking?
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Nono, don’t get it wrong girl. First 1 or 2 months usually will cost you a lot because you have to pay extra fees like rent deposit, agent fees, broadband signup, mobile signup, household items etc. Those will set you back around $1000 already.

For the consecutive months, it will be quite constant if you’re not a big spender tongue.gif Like me, first month cost me $2500, but next month gonna be $1300 per month, or less. My girlfriend spent a lot in her first month… blame GSS (Grand Singapore Sale) laugh.gif !!! Imagine The Body Shop giving out discounts up to 70%! Tempting tempting! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Jun 24 2008, 10:32 AM

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- PLEASE DON’T EVER GO FOR PREPAID. Prepaid users are charged for incoming calls, and you have to pay a fee everyday just to enjoy free incoming calls. I subscribed Singtel prepaid in the 1st week… used up the $10 credit in just 3 days. Crappy!


You are wrong in someways. If you do not mind about the 3G ( video call),
prepaid is always the best way to go. You used up $10 credit in 3 days because you are not familiar with it.
FYI, singtel have 1 hot100 which is you pay 28 dollar, you get 100 dollar local call( 16 cents peak hour, 8 cents non-peak), 28 dollar outstation call with IDD and free incoming call. This account is separate from your main account which you need top up every 50 days to make sure your balance is not void.
( main account can be active without top up for 6 month)
Previously they charge on incoming call but now its free due to competition a 28 dollar package from starhub.
you do not have to pay 5 dollar for caller ID as well as postpaid plan will charge you from third month onwards.
so whatever plan you subscribe for postpaid, after 3 month you will need to pay package price+ $5 + GST.



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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jun 24 2008, 10:14 AM)

p.s. As for Singtel and Starhub’s mobile service, there is no such thing as no signal this, no signal that. Singtel and Starhub is just like Maxis and Digi. Moreover Singapore is so damn small and I highly doubt you’ll get zero signal here (perhaps you’re trying to make a call underwater, that I don’t know tongue.gif ). However the rates are a little sucky for Singapore mobile service providers… list as below (comparing my Maxis postpaid and Singtel postpaid):

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I tried starhub postpaid for my first week.
the signal is zero when the train traveling in subway.
it is the same when you are in the lift.
i'm surprised to see my signal bar become zero when i just took it out from pocket at my office.

singtel has no above issues at all.

ya, agree on the plan charges is sucky.
but they do give you very good price for handphones.
i think that's a trade-off though.
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For singtel mayb u wont face 0 bar but fir m1 n starhub its comman. Wirelss modem there r area whose coverage is damn sucky. Yes i was a subcriber od mwbb b4 i know how sucky it can be compared to sg yes sg is better but still wasnt up to my expeectation as its a friggin small island yet there r times theres totally no signal.

any way using m1 which totaly sucks in terms of service n signal strength. My bad for not doin any research b4 suscribing. As for prepaid its good to use if u do not a frequently recieve calls


Added on June 24, 2008, 12:17 pmBtw the gst is now 7% n yes i'm in the construction ind sumtimes i do make calls from sites plus if u havent experience a no signal its good for u shows tat u havent travelled around sg enuf

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wahlao... it just sounds like NATIONAL roaming to me!! paying to receive calls!! and i cant believe that you need to pay for the incoming caller ID thingie...
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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Jun 24 2008, 12:53 PM)
wahlao... it just sounds like NATIONAL roaming to me!! paying to receive calls!! and i cant believe that you need to pay for the incoming caller ID thingie...
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lol, it's singapore.
there are pros and cons everywhere you go.

as for your previous question:
lotsa malaysians die in sg already if your claim is true. tongue.gif

my living cost is about 1k~1.1k monthly.
it includes single common room rental, PUB, eat and travelling cost.
add another $60 if you wanna add the broadband and postpaid subscription. smile.gif
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Comparing mobile plans in Malaysia and Singapore is pointless.

Singapore telcos will always charge for 'value added' services which Malaysians take for-granted, like caller ID and itemised billing.

On the other hand, Malaysia telcos will never give you the handset bargains you get here. And if you stay with a Sg telco, they'll send you new handset and other vouchers when your contract expires, or on your birthday etc. I got a voucher for a tub of Hagen Daz last year from Starhub for my birthday.

Sg telcos also bundle much more than Malaysia. Like Starhub's Hubber or Singtel's Mio. But then again, you're probably paying for a lot of ununsed 'value added' services.

Me, I'm on Starhub, never had any problems on the MRT or lifts that don't affect Singtel & M1 equally. Anyway, I'm not a MRT driver or lift operator. So even if I had those problems, not a big issue.

My Starhub bill is usually $30 a month. Basic corp subscription (corp means you simply give them a business card) $18 + $5 caller id and $5 roaming. Subscription comes with 160 free minutes (local or IDD) and 100 local SMS. Nowadays, all postpaid packages have free incoming calls.

For broadband, I'm on the cheapest 1mbps Singtel mobile bb. $22 a month, free 2 months a year, free Huawei modem and SIM card. Now, there's a promotion for 2mbps for only $17 a month. Same free stuff but no free 2 months. For backup if I've got some heavy downloading to do, I've got Starhub Flexisurf at $7.50 for 3 days. No monthly fees, connection fees, installation fees etc. Pay as you use. Just buy the cable modem from Starhub, go home and plug in. Pay online using cr card. Btw, Yahoo and MSN is free on Flexisurf even if you don't buy any online time.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 24 2008, 01:23 PM)
Singapore telcos will always charge for 'value added' services which Malaysians take for-granted, like caller ID and itemised billing.
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Singapore telcos dump everything to you and start charging you when the promotion is over, but items like Caller-ID, itemised billing, and even incoming calls shouldn't even be charged. Its like buying a plate of chicken rice and the seller charges you seperately for the chillie sauce, the fork, the spoon, and the bowl of soup sweat.gif

Ah well, different countries different telco... have to adapt and get used to it.


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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 24 2008, 01:23 PM)

Me, I'm on Starhub, never had any problems on the MRT or lifts that don't affect Singtel & M1 equally. Anyway, I'm not a MRT driver or lift operator. So even if I had those problems, not a big issue.

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I got zero signal almost immediately once the train entering the tunnel from Kallang.
It's annoying because I was chatting with my gf. sweat.gif
My SG frens also say when you are in a big event you will get problem with starhub connection.

AFAIK, starhub give more voucher and their bundled phone is the cheapest among all telcos.
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:05 AM)
I'm using singtel broadband on mobile now.
it's 2mbps, much faster than screamyx 1.5mbps at my johor hometown.
so far so good, seldom get dc.
sucky? I think you haven't try celcom and maxis yet. tongue.gif
he's referring to wireless@SG, the free wifi.

anyway singtel bbom damn sucky now since a month ago. promo till infrastructure can't withstand the new subscriber base.
connected but can't surf, RTO when pinging, DNS no resolution, sigh~

free upgrade to 2mb - enjoy the same "great" speed at the same price.
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:29 PM)
Singapore telcos dump everything to you and start charging you when the promotion is over, but items like Caller-ID, itemised billing, and even incoming calls shouldn't even be charged. Its like buying a plate of chicken rice and the seller charges you seperately for the chillie sauce, the fork, the spoon, and the bowl of soup sweat.gif

Ah well, different countries different telco... have to adapt and get used to it.
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HAHAHAH i have the same feelings too...!!

just like how i used to have 12 packets of mcd tomato sauce on my mcd french fries... but ever since in australia, i am now used to having french fries KOSONG, as they freaking charging for the sauce!! =(

but somehow it is good when you have some idiotic friends who dont like to recharge their mobile and they will start doing dodgy things like miss calling you and hope that you will call back... or i even met some who called me, picked up and said "call me back" hung up... so with the charges in singapore, these people dont exist...

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QUOTE(AsenDURE @ Jun 24 2008, 09:24 PM)
he's referring to wireless@SG, the free wifi.

anyway singtel bbom damn sucky now since a month ago. promo till infrastructure can't withstand the new subscriber base.
connected but can't surf, RTO when pinging, DNS no resolution, sigh~

free upgrade to 2mb - enjoy the same "great" speed at the same price.
Disconnect and reconnect. It works for me 50% of the time, because sometimes Singtel is damn sneaky and drops you off HSDPA into WCDMA without you realising it.

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I rarely encounter any disconnection here(east side).
The connection is slowest during 8-11pm weekdays but I still can surf net and chatting without any problem.
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Wow! This thread is finally reaching 100th page. Shall we celebrate? tongue.gif

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