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SUSxander83
post Feb 9 2021, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Feb 9 2021, 10:26 AM)
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almost the same?

seen like ESG high tech sikit  biggrin.gif
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SRI is more focus on environmental and climate change

While ESG is more focus to social issues like modern slave trading, illegal labor’s practices and social justice

Both terms are bombastic and fashionable only thing matters the end results from those terms as more funds jumping into bandwagon without understanding the whole implications

Just like emperor getting out his slave trading cloak rclxms.gif
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post Feb 9 2021, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 9 2021, 03:02 PM)
Don't get caught up with those bombastic terms: disruptive, next gen, sustainable, ESG, AI, thematic
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Like most flashy products especially paper based are most bullshit with these names and most of it will be invested in Tesla and Apple through feeder funds hence the profits will not be so fantastic as investing into the direct ETFs or those shares

But the Sales Charge is crazy at 3% and the benchmark it is easy to see it won’t hit RM0.42 in 2021 to be profitable in it
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post Feb 9 2021, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Feb 9 2021, 03:30 PM)
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Nvm, i play small small only
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Buy minimum units and park it to 2years rclxms.gif

QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 9 2021, 03:31 PM)
Not every flashy fund is reputable like ARKK - ARK INNOVATION ETF
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ARKK heir strengths are just forward research hence which why now is the gold standard for those who are playing long on thematic

But their is another ETF is also starts with A which is performing slightly better than ARKK just that have their limelight rclxms.gif
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post Feb 9 2021, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 9 2021, 03:39 PM)
ESG is still a "new" concept to a lot of companies 😅 unfortunately it'll take a long while before businesses start to actually put green technology and "human rights" into practice with their company management.

Maybe current emerging workforce generation and politicians will push for more focus (example: recent Biden administration pledges) but as of now, profits > human rights and environmental impact.

IMO if you're into the ethics of ESG then can and should fund, but don't expect much profit until 10+ years later.
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Even those in SRI early adopters still have not profitable or break even with the exemptions of Apple and Tesla recently
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post Feb 10 2021, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 9 2021, 04:12 PM)
Only a handful of governments that are proactive towards SRI/ESG and many of these are not big economies, so companies unlikely to actually profit much since much of ESG successful implementation and advancement relies on government enforcement of minimum ESG standards.

US and China for example aren't great at enforcing ESG positive policies as of recent decade.
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Unless G20 or OECD has the power to jump the bandwagon then possible it will grow

Will wait for COP20 and Biden upcoming summit on the tell tale signs for the next decade rclxms.gif
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post Feb 22 2021, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(george_dave91 @ Feb 22 2021, 03:39 PM)
Hi guys. I’ve been doing a comparison of several fundfact sheets between PM funds and that of its competitors such as Affin Hwang, Eastspring, etc.

I find that most of the PM funds don’t seem to be doing as well when compared to its competitors (mainly looking at funds that have been around for more than 10 years or at least 5 years).

Nevertheless PM seems to be winning many awards now and then. I can’t understand why.

Yes I do understand that past performance for not guarantee future performance but track record still helps us make an educated guess on how well these funds are managed. Especially when doing comparative types of analysis. Do you guys agree?

Anyways, does anyone here have great performance/ experience with their PM funds (which funds?)? Care to share?

Thanks.
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Awards are bought hence meaningless when the returns are the key performance to investors

Even the benchmark sets are so low that is achievable by any passive investors easily by DIY
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post Feb 22 2021, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 22 2021, 06:07 PM)
Macam yes. I didn't do an actual comparison with other funds, but based on reports I gathered online this seems to be the case.

My cynical dua sen is that these "awards" are sometimes actually sponsored advertising in disguise tongue.gif
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That’s why all these so called Awards are basically bought by those who underperformed

Those who outperformed will be silently because they don’t need any awards and people flocked easily to it
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post Sep 3 2021, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 2 2021, 12:08 PM)
PUBLIC e-EMAS GOLD FUND
(PeEMAS)

Invest in Gold the Convenient and Affordable
Minimum investment of only RM100 via Public Mutual Online.
Sales Charge of up to 1.0% of net asset value (NAV) per unit.
Zero redemption fee.
Management Fee of 0.85% per annum of the Fund’s NAV.
Invests at least 90% of NAV in gold ETFs.
Initial Issue Price: RM1.00 per unit during Offer Period (1 September – 21 September 2021)

Fund Features
• Minimum investment of only RM100 via Public Mutual Online.
Invests at least 90% of its net asset value (NAV) in a minimum of 5 gold exchange-traded funds (ETFs) in the global markets, with the balance in liquid assets

https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...E%3d&portalid=0

https://www.publicmutual.com.my/Menu/Campai...Launches/PeEMAS
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Why bother 2% upfront and yearly 0.85% when Bursa has gold etf at 0.3% while paying minimum brokerage fee and easier to liquidate in the open market without delay doh.gif
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post Sep 3 2021, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Sep 3 2021, 01:16 PM)
Gold etf by hwang expense ratio is around 0.6 percent if include  all management and custody fees

Public mutual e-emas is more suitable for those to invest lil by lil Eg rm100 per month

You don't pay rm10 for brokage to buy rm 100 worth of gold right?
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At current price gold ETF minimum is around 240 per trade with rm8 cheapest brokerage plus 0.45% annual ter so to save a minimum at least 400 units to be worth to save on brokerage

Pemas however only minimum less than rm500 on total but with gold for long term not suitable when inflation hit some and you be paying yearly fees biting into your base investment

Just another Hellogold but with Public name in it doh.gif
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post Sep 3 2021, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Sep 3 2021, 01:55 PM)
yes. but the society does function like this. if you are rich and can put in more money your fees are cheap, if you have only a few hundred t invest then the fees is expensive

hellogold is not yet established and hence people will favor public mutual for it's reputation
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Another cheapest way is through Wahed only Gold portfolio but whether 0.05% cheaper and worth it or not
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post Oct 14 2021, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Oct 14 2021, 04:56 PM)
what is Emergency Reserve Account (ERA) ?  any body/agent PM know ?

my agent told me will launched early Nov, when i ask what is that, no info at all..... hmm.gif
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Sounds like a MMF rclxms.gif
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post Nov 12 2021, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Nov 12 2021, 01:29 PM)
Hi all,

Seems to be not able to find answers via Google but why most initial investment must be made in 1k?
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Cost of running the fund itself doh.gif

If you see some others are lower is because cost efficiencies, high liquidity and AUM size is large

 

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