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wodenus
post May 25 2015, 06:15 PM

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I'm curious as to why people use PM agents when you can do it online at FSM or eunittrust for less than half the commission?
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post May 25 2015, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 25 2015, 07:11 PM)
litteracy or awarness to do online.

When PM has agent all place kampung or small town.
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If FSM had agents, paid them 2%.. still cheaper than PM, and they carry more funds. Wonder why they don't do that.
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post Jun 9 2015, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(audy @ Jun 9 2015, 06:00 PM)
hmm...looks like all my funds are on the right track..phew! Thanks again for the link. I need to be more proactive instead of relying on my agent for info tongue.gif
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So.. what did you pay them 5% for.. if in the end you still have to do it yourself? tongue.gif

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post Sep 6 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 3 2015, 04:40 PM)
Public Mutual launches two more PRS funds at 25 sen per unit
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/p...nds-25-sen-unit

More choice for PRS lovers
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Don't see the point when you can just buy the ETF off Bursa.. save the front-end load and the 1% every year.
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post Sep 7 2015, 05:40 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 6 2015, 09:06 PM)
ETFs listed on Bursa have low liquidity
Thus, it's not ez to buy or sell
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Not really.. they have market makers, there's just no queue.

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post Sep 7 2015, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 7 2015, 05:13 PM)
To wrap up what cheaters do,
1. financial planner no need to be certified, getting certified is to enable a cheater to cheat more openly.
2. without certificate, a cheater can be held responsible from spreading lies while certified cheater no need, since they can say is due to market went down.

BTW, certified cheater are not same to doctor, lawyer and architect, since what ever they did can bring them to court of law.
Does a certified cheater ever brought to court of law?
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You think? I know someone who is a stockbroker, his card says he has a degree in Finance, but he does not know the difference between a dividend and an option smile.gif

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post Sep 7 2015, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 7 2015, 06:36 PM)
Is normal, as said, you need to jump in and out on the right time whistling.gif
I also know nuts on stocks, yet every month sure Bursa are giving me rm500-600 whistling.gif


So much trouble to make Rm500-600 smile.gif all you need is 150K in FD.. guaranteed Rm525 a month already, why risk capital lol smile.gif

Anyway you're the first stallholder I know who has so much time (unless you rent out the stall or have someone else run it smile.gif )

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post Sep 7 2015, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 7 2015, 08:29 PM)
Sorry, the investment I put in is rm0.30 to get this rm500-600.
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And what is selling at 0.30 smile.gif that would imply Rm0.003/share lol smile.gif also who is going to charge you Rm0.30 brokerage smile.gif

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post Sep 8 2015, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 8 2015, 09:27 AM)
rm0.30 is making 2 phone calls, 1 call to buy, another call to sell.
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So now you are a stockbroker than runs a wantan mee stall? smile.gif still can't beat someone who has more than 150K in FD.. don't even have to make a phone call smile.gif

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post Sep 8 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 8 2015, 09:44 AM)
Not stockbroker, just a normal investor. As the broker is a friend of mine, so he knows me well on what I want, I make fast money from stocks, he makes money also. Nowadays people using online to trade, so he has more time to help me watching.
This money is for me to buy something that cannot let my wife knows drool.gif
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So in the end you are still risking capital? that is really still my problem.. In the end the markets don't provide an adequate risk/reward ratio - the difference (in ringgit terms) between risk and no risk is so small as to not make it worth the risk.

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post Sep 8 2015, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 8 2015, 10:16 AM)
You dump in money in any of the so-called investment sure have risk.


Exactly. My problem is.. why do people take on a risk, when they can make almost the same risk-free? this is what I don't understand. What am I missing, that makes people take crazy risks for something like Rm50 a month? you say you make Rm500-600 a month, but you can do that risk-free, so why do you do it?

QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 8 2015, 10:16 AM)
Any stocks that dipped for sometime sure will go up.


That is beside the point.. it's just that it does not keep up with inflation. Consider Tenaga for example.. suppose I bought 1000 shares 24 years ago. I would be risking about 5K+ (about six months salary back in 1992) and by now I would have a profit of just over Rm8K. I could work anywhere for a year risk-free and make more than what I would have made after investing for 24 years smile.gif

Sure it looks great.. ROI is 100+%.. almost 11% a year for 24 years, but it's just Rm8K. You put at risk something like 6 months of your salary and all you get after 24 years.. is still about 6 months' salary smile.gif




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post Sep 8 2015, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 8 2015, 12:18 PM)
Sorry, my stocks never being keep for > 3 days.
Nope, you are still dead wrong as my stocks never been keep for > 3 days. Sometimes I don't even know what is that counter's name.
Me and you got difference which is you like to keep rubbish while I don't.
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So all that work, and you still only make 500-600 a month.
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post Sep 8 2015, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 8 2015, 12:21 PM)
I'm not greedy, just need some extra money to waste.
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That's still beside the point.. point is, you are not making efficient use of your time smile.gif
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post Sep 8 2015, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 8 2015, 12:21 PM)
I'm not greedy, just need some extra money to waste.
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I think I get it, if you get another job.. you'd make more money, but your wife would know. If you trade, you make less but your wife won't know smile.gif


 

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