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cplai8791
post Jul 21 2016, 09:10 AM

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Hi all, new to unit trust and fund. I read through previous post here... There is always performance table for 1, 3, 5yrs and YTD. May I know how this calculated? Is it solely based on the NAV or taking in distribution factor already?

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cplai8791
post Jul 21 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Jul 21 2016, 10:05 AM)
Calculations can either be
1. cumulative - total growth for period : (end-start)/start
2. annualized - average growth per year, compounded : CARG/Future Value calculation
3. calendar year - performance for year : (end-start)/start same as cumulative, except time set to 1 year.

Distribution already taken into account.
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Thanks Luken for quick reply. I try to do a little research this morning and I found this seems contradict with yours. The link here: https://thebillionairesquad.wordpress.com/

18. Should we only buy the fund with high historical distribution?

No. Distribution is not indicating the performance of the fund. The real value of the investment is still same. After distribution, the fund price will drop as the distribution is from the NAV of the fund.


So, appreciated you or someone confirm on this?

Besides that, I read on switching fee. Just wonder will PM UTC still earning money if we only switch our fund? Or because that they keep triggering us "Buy" "Buy" "Buy"?

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cplai8791
post Jul 21 2016, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 21 2016, 11:56 AM)
While the information on the link attached is 100% legit, I don't think what lukenn contradict with it at all

performance takes into consideration the effects of distribution means it doesn't just take the fund price changes but also the additional units distributed; otherwise you would end up with much lower returns when the fund price become lower after distribution

Can't help on PM UTC commission, I've no clue
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Hi Dasecret... Thanks. After I read the question and answer repeatedly few times, I realized that I read the question wrongly. Haha... First, I tot the question is: Should we only buy the fund with high performance bond?

That why I tot is contradict. Thanks for Lukenn as well thumbup.gif

Then seems PM fund is really not that competent to others, but it is still holding a big market notworthy.gif
cplai8791
post Jul 21 2016, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jul 21 2016, 04:06 PM)
First, welcome to this thread where I tried to explain the basics of unit trust funds as simple as possible.

1. UT fund is different from gold price. Its performance table or growth table is not based on its NAV price or its distributions. The growth is its actual net growth between 2 points in time.

2. Please read further in this thread or elsewhere how the income distribution would readjust the NAV price per unit.

3. Let's take this performance chart as an example. http://www.publicmutual.com.my/application...formancenw.aspx (Sorry, only the link... as I don't know how to embed it.  sad.gif  )

The performance chart for 1, 3, 5 or 10 years is a moving chart with its starting point from the respective years till today. It shows the total growth of the fund. It is a simple chart charting the growth of the fund throught the years. Usually in performance tables in articles, ithe figures are annualised.

4. The Year-To-Date (YTD) figure is the growth for this year.  In the above linked performance chart, select "Date range from" and put 31/12/2015 as its starting point, and today's date as the ending point.

5. Annualised means that it is a sort of 'average' figure for each year, except that it had taken "compounding" into account.

6. What some people failed to comprehend in reading the annualised numbers is that they misconstrued it as the annual or yearly growth; while in truth, there could be good years and bad years and the growth can be positive as well as negative at various points in the charted time period.

7. Looking at a growth chart showing all the growth points throughout the respective years instead of seeing a single annualised figure would help to dispel the miscomprehension in (6).

8. The growth performance charted is the previous years... how will the future fare is open to all speculations. But one thing for sure, 100% certain, is the ups and the dips which is clearly shown in all performance charts.

(Hence the strategic method of regular buying ("Buy, buy, buy') at the accumulative stage is always advocated. LOL Am now sounding like a UTC out to get his commission.  biggrin.gif )

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Thanks for such long reply. Ya... Takes me whole day to complete 34 pages comments in this thread. @@
Not going to read the old one... lol

Thanks for all who contributing in the thread... Understand more now thumbup.gif
cplai8791
post Jul 26 2016, 10:11 AM

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Hi,

I know that we able to view the performance table of the normal fund on Morningstar. How about Private Retirement Scheme? Can someone provide a link to see this?

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post Jul 26 2016, 10:15 AM

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I try to view the performance one by one from PM site... Seems all of the PRS under perform (negative)? Is it only for PM PRS or due to global economic?

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post Jul 26 2016, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 26 2016, 10:22 AM)
Thanks. Can't find this link or this filter if go MorningStar directly... Haha...

By the way, may I know is there any reason why PRS performance table only have 1 year annualized instead of 3, 5, and 10 yrs as normal fund?

This post has been edited by cplai8791: Jul 26 2016, 10:33 AM
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post Jul 26 2016, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 26 2016, 11:07 AM)
i guess it is because PRS funds is not in the mkts 5 or 10 yrs ago.  biggrin.gif
for the YTD, 1 week, 1mth, 3 mths, 6 mth 1yr, 2 yrs 3 yrs data,
try this...(but without the PM data)
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...fundSelect.svdo
select All PRS providers only.
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Thanks. Just wondering, I saw quite a few posts mentioned Supermart do not have PM fund or less PM fund. PM not allow Funsupermart selling their product? Haha...

 

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