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post Aug 16 2019, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Aug 16 2019, 02:07 PM)
Just for the record...

The daily increment for some bonds funds yesterday was extraodinary high. While mm funds are about 0.01% daily (which would be about 3.65% annualised), the bond funds were about 3 times higher in the past 12 months, around 0.03% to 0.04% daily.

Yesterday's daily increments were akin to equity funds...

PB AIMAN SUKUK FUND 0.53%
PB SUKUK FUND 0.26%
PB INFRASTRUCTURE BOND FUND 0.39%

PUBLIC ISLAMIC BOND FUND 0.38%
PUBLIC ISLAMIC INFRASTRUCTURE BOND FUND 0.43%
PUBLIC SUKUK FUND 0.37%

(Note: PB Aiman Sukuk is closed to new investments.)
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Public Bond Fund 1 year return is 7.46%. That already beats most equity funds' performance in the past 1 year.
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post Mar 14 2020, 06:16 PM

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Very insightful. May I know how old you are? I'm in my early 30's and this market really gives me the jitters and I don't like losing money. Even financial samurai doesn't like it either: https://www.financialsamurai.com/risk-toler...ult-to-measure/
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post Mar 15 2020, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 15 2020, 02:59 AM)
As for unusual market turbulence, maybe wait for things to settle down before continuing building the portfolio as previously planned.

Personally, I tried before to take advantage of market volatility to gain some extra money... sometimes lucky, sometimes not.

At the end, all alternate paths lead to the same destination.
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Would you suggest cashing out while it's still not so much in the red to stem further losses? Or switch here, switch there like you said and sometimes lucky, sometimes not? Or just ignore it for now? Cos I really don't want for it go to -60% like you once did.
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post Mar 16 2020, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 15 2020, 04:25 PM)
I doubt you can make more mistakes than I did. I was in a rush to build up the portfolio to the desired amount, was issuing cheques in multiples of 10k, then switched out after tired of waiting for it to rebound and breakeven as the fund was down for years and years.

What I should have done was not to rush in building up the portfolio, and spread the purchases over years and years. Thus I would be purchasing funds throughout the down years.

So, review your financial objective of investing into unit trust funds. Was the objective short term or long term?

If short term, like planning for a wedding or down-payment for a house in next several years, were you expecting too much from the investment?

(Equity funds are more appropriate for long term investments. For short term objectives, it could be tough to achieve the objective in time and it could take much longer to reach the objective as planned, as there could be mini downturns in the markets causing delays while waiting for it to rebound. It would be better to lower the expected returns and invest into bond funds.)

If long term, like building up a retirement fund to complement and add onto the money in EPF, are you feeling you are running out of time and in a hurry to have a sizeable portfolio?

(For the long term, It would be better to spread out the investment and make purchases throughout the long investment period. Invest as you work, earn and save. This is easier than building up your savings while waiting for the right time to invest a big sum of money. Since it is a long term of many years, you could be repeating the latter method of timing the market many times, sometimes lucky, sometimes not. At the end, both methods may give similar returns. )

Then make adjustments as you deem fit and appropriate to your financial objective.

Hope your own review of your situation and investment objective will give answer to your question of whether to cut lost or not.
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Thank you for such a thoughtful reply. Definitely words to sleep on.

It is for long term, but I also did invest a lump sum of multiples of 10ks at the end of 2017, which was just the high before the 2018 lows, and it didn't quite recover in 2019 because the fund is way underperforming its benchmark. Even without the recent sell-off I was already thinking that I should switch out, instead of wasting years and years for it to rebound.

Thank you. I'll come back and read your words again tomorrow.

 

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