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post Jun 7 2018, 10:21 AM

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Hmm is it? I tried searching for AW 15 R3 GTX 1060 they are having thermal issues as well? Anybody having the exact model can confirm?? Since there are no improvement on the heat management from R3 to R4

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Guys anyone notice dell stops selling Alienware 13 on their web site now? Sigh been holding out for a 13 for next gen.. and now it’s gone!


QUOTE(2ndhandgoods @ Jun 7 2018, 10:21 AM)
Hmm is it? I tried searching for AW 15 R3 GTX 1060 they are having thermal issues as well? Anybody having the exact model can confirm?? Since there are no improvement on the heat management from R3 to R4
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Ummm, correct me if I’m wrong but when did 15 r3 progressed to r4?!
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post Jun 8 2018, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(2ndhandgoods @ Jun 6 2018, 11:14 PM)
What are the temps you getting with your config bro??
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Non-aircond vs aircond

i7-7700K undervolt 80/70
GTX 1060 75/70

Probably the 1060 doesn't clock as high but it didn't go into crazy temperature or shutdown. I probably can repaste and get better temperature but doen't feel the need to.

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post Jun 9 2018, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Jun 8 2018, 01:22 PM)
Non-aircond vs aircond

i7-7700K undervolt 80/70
GTX 1060 75/70

Probably the 1060 doesn't clock as high but it didn't go into crazy temperature or shutdown. I probably can repaste and get better temperature but doen't feel the need to.
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Hi bro, may I know your undervolt value ? I try -0.185v, temperature around 82c at 100% max load and idle about 62c. Max core frequency 3.88Ghz.

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post Jun 9 2018, 03:08 PM

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I only undervolt -0.12v. Are you testing in aircond room? That idle should be with the fan off.
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post Jun 9 2018, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Jun 9 2018, 03:08 PM)
I only undervolt -0.12v. Are you testing in aircond room? That idle should be with the fan off.
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Nope, non aircond room. I think -0.175 may be not stable. It will hang when I shutdown laptop.


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post Jun 9 2018, 06:26 PM

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Then my temperature is pretty identical to you, 80c at room temperature during gaming load.
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post Jun 11 2018, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jun 5 2018, 10:08 PM)
Anyone has experience with the Alienware 15 r4? Just ordered one with the i5 + 1060 OC combo. Reading reviews on the internet makes me scared for the thermal
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It's the heatsink design refer to page 96 of service manual.
http://topics-cdn.dell.com/pdf/alienware-1...anual_en-us.pdf

The gist is the 3 screw design doesn't hold down the heat sink properly for good contact.
Also the thermal pad is crap, it's typical crap nearly all big notebook manufacturers apply.

QUOTE(bitebug @ Jun 7 2018, 12:29 AM)
Yeah seems like it. Went to the reddit page and noticed most people that was affected are running GTX 1070. The horror stories there kinda makes me restless. I know that they may represent a small part of the community but still, for such a premium brand, these things shouldn't have happened.
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Let's findout together if the Dell revisions to the R4 helps.
What I heard is for R4 Dell applied different thermal paste and revised heat sink (although it still uses 3 screws)

Ordered Alienware 15 configured with i7 8750H + GTX 1060 + 2 years warranty + Windows 10 Pro for RM6,017.30

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post Jun 11 2018, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 11 2018, 11:02 AM)

The gist is the 3 screw design doesn't hold down the heat sink properly for good contact.
Also the thermal pad is crap, it's typical crap nearly all big notebook manufacturers apply.

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Sad to know Alienware can screw up such a great laptop with poor heatsink design's precision.
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post Jun 11 2018, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Jun 11 2018, 11:11 AM)
Sad to know Alienware can screw up such a great laptop with poor heatsink design's precision.
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Engineering and design misstep happen to almost anyone.
Sad indeed and doesn't make it any less disappointing.

Fingers crossed 15 R4 doesn't have any issues and Dell fixed it.

Previous Alienware was M14x R2 which was an awesome machine.

Wish me luck biggrin.gif

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post Jun 11 2018, 02:30 PM

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I think my unit got problem. I just play a low requirement RPG game and CPU average temperature hit 96c within 10 minutes game play. I already reported to DELL & wait for reply.

Now I just pack my AW inside the beg and wait for Dell support. I continue use my 5 years old Fujitsu Lifebook, very nice machine. Used more then 5 years without any issue, now battery still can stay for 2-3 hour. Sadly Fujitsu no more supply in Malaysia.

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post Jun 11 2018, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Alan Chong @ Jun 11 2018, 02:30 PM)
I think my unit got problem. I just play a low requirement RPG game and CPU average temperature hit 96c within 10 minutes game play. I already reported to DELL & wait for reply.

Now I just pack my AW inside the beg and wait for Dell support. I continue use my 5 years old Fujitsu Lifebook, very nice machine. Used more then 5 years without any issue, now battery still can stay for 2-3 hour. Sadly Fujitsu no more supply in Malaysia.
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What was the findings during troubleshooting?


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post Jun 11 2018, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 11 2018, 03:19 PM)
What was the findings during troubleshooting?
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Still don’t know yet, they just send a questionnaire to me for fill up & do some Diagnostics test. They will go for next action after get my reply.

Will updated after we found the problem.

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post Jun 11 2018, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 11 2018, 11:02 AM)
It's the heatsink design refer to page 96 of service manual.
http://topics-cdn.dell.com/pdf/alienware-1...anual_en-us.pdf

The gist is the 3 screw design doesn't hold down the heat sink properly for good contact.
Also the thermal pad is crap, it's typical crap nearly all big notebook manufacturers apply.
Let's findout together if the Dell revisions to the R4 helps.
What I heard is for R4 Dell applied different thermal paste and revised heat sink (although it still uses 3 screws)

Ordered Alienware 15 configured with i7 8750H + GTX 1060 + 2 years warranty + Windows 10 Pro for RM6,017.30
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What’s the full spec and where did u buy it?
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post Jun 11 2018, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 11 2018, 03:19 PM)
What was the findings during troubleshooting?
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Ok, Dell reply me already. They suspect that issue is caused due to insufficient or incorrectly applied thermal paste or defective heatsink, like what you mention in previous reply ... They will arrange technician on site to fix this problem. Hopefully everything will be alright after replace those parts.

Anyway, I like my AW15, everything so nice, solid build, beautiful display (my setup is IPS with G-Sync) and excellent customer support rclxms.gif (they reply my email at 9pm).

Congratulation for your new purchase rclxms.gif . FYI, if you want to upgrade PCIe SSD, AW15 already provides screw at the slot of SSD. So you does not need to purchase screw. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 11 2018, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(BotakPrince @ Jun 11 2018, 07:30 PM)
What’s the full spec and where did u buy it?
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It's this base unit w5195006myw10mlk

i7-8750H
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit English
2Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis

Bought from Dell

QUOTE(Alan Chong @ Jun 11 2018, 09:13 PM)
Ok, Dell reply me already. They suspect that issue is caused due to insufficient or incorrectly applied thermal paste or defective heatsink, like what you mention in previous reply ... They will arrange technician on site to fix this problem. Hopefully everything will be alright after replace those parts.

Anyway, I like my AW15, everything so nice, solid build, beautiful display (my setup is IPS with G-Sync) and excellent customer support  rclxms.gif (they reply my email at 9pm).

Congratulation for your new purchase rclxms.gif . FYI, if you want to upgrade PCIe SSD, AW15 already provides screw at the slot of SSD. So you does not need to purchase screw. thumbup.gif
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TQ!

Might be a good time to get thermal grizzly kryonaut since it's going to be re-pasted. I'd ask the technician to help apply brows.gif

Good to know SSD screws are present.
My DELL XPS desktops didn't include screws for SSD, scavenged dodgy screw from my toolbox doh.gif

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post Jun 12 2018, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 11 2018, 11:52 PM)
It's this base unit w5195006myw10mlk

i7-8750H
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit English
2Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis

Bought from Dell
TQ!

Might be a good time to get thermal grizzly kryonaut since it's going to be re-pasted. I'd ask the technician to help apply brows.gif

Good to know SSD screws are present.
My DELL XPS desktops didn't include screws for SSD, scavenged dodgy screw from my toolbox  doh.gif
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U have a voucher? It says 6334rm for me
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post Jun 12 2018, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(BotakPrince @ Jun 12 2018, 01:15 AM)
U have a voucher? It says 6334rm for me
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You know that pop-up chat box on Dell's website.
Chat with sales agent online and ask for a quotation for the model and specs wanted.

From there you're assigned a sales rep, nicely ask sales rep for discount nod.gif
Or call 1800 88 2888

No guarantees to get discount might receive something like wireless mouse for example.

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post Jun 12 2018, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 11 2018, 11:52 PM)
Might be a good time to get thermal grizzly kryonaut since it's going to be re-pasted. I'd ask the technician to help apply brows.gif

Good to know SSD screws are present.
My DELL XPS desktops didn't include screws for SSD, scavenged dodgy screw from my toolbox  doh.gif
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I don't think able to get thermal grizzly kryonaut before Dell technician coming sweat.gif . Raya holiday coming, courier service cut off for new delivery doh.gif . I just check my local computer shop, they just sell cooler master thermal paste. sweat.gif

Now I only know can get discount from Dell sales rep. Next time got new purchase should check with them first hmm.gif
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QUOTE(BotakPrince @ Jun 12 2018, 01:15 AM)
U have a voucher? It says 6334rm for me
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CAV15-87816G-1060-FHD W5695005MYW10MLK i7-8750H 8GB DDR4 2400MHz 1TB+8GB 15.6"" FHD (60Hz TN) NA NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 OC with 6GB GDDR5 W10 Home 1-yr Prem
RM6500 i can sell

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