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neoexcaliber
post May 16 2015, 01:44 PM

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Implying that the Rohingyas will be shot if they return to Myanmar or are being killed in the thousands?

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post May 16 2015, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(Asusm930 @ May 16 2015, 06:38 PM)
Why not treat the root le? Myanmar people cause all of this. Why not protest and riot against myanmar? Pressure myanmar? To me tat is biggest question.
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The Myanmar government refuses to recognize the Rohingya term and the Rohingyas do not want to be known as Bengali migrants. They're both stubborn. If you're wondering why the Rohingya do not want to budge on that matter, it's because they need to be recognized as ethnic Burmese before being able to demand for autonomy. Otherwise, it'll just look like an invasion.

It's very messy. Both sides are at fault but I blame the Rohingyas more.

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post May 16 2015, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(Asusm930 @ May 16 2015, 06:51 PM)
The way you word it kinda dismisses the sort of killing and cruelty the gomen there does to these people. Cant simply say it is messy. The kind of pressure that's put into other issues arent placed here. To me that is the main issue. And we have people diverting their attention to shelter these people instead of pressuring both sides for a concensus.
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If you want talk about the killing, what about the part where the Rohingya killed ethnic Burmese when the British armed them to fight the Japanese? You seem to be under the impression there's widespread genocide happening in Rakhine right now. Yes, people did die during the 2012 riots and yes, they are discriminated against in Myanmar. I said it's messy because you have to take into account their history. The Rohingyas want their own state and the Burmese people fear being displaced by migrants.
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post May 18 2015, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 18 2015, 07:34 AM)
2 ways I look at it.

Firstly, they are lazy opportunists right in the beginning.
There were Bangladeshi and Rohingya on the ship.
Instead of going through a proper process (i.e. getting citizenship, work permit etc), they chose to take the risk sailing South. So, the situation is, they made the decision you pay the price. Lazy motherfuckers who opt an easy way out.

Secondly, Rohingya could have walked back to Bangladesh, instead of sailing South. They could have got their citizenships in Bangladesh and got their working permit to work in other countries. I mean there are options. They could have done that 70 years ago when they wanted to build an Islamic state. But they chose to be rebellious. Again, they made the decision you pay the price. Lazy motherfuckers who opt an easy way out.

If they need food and water, give them.
They won't die if they have food and water.
Need fuel, give them. Need medicine, give them.
If their ships sink, give them sampan.
Then, ask them to go back to Bangladesh.

During WW2, Jews couldn't walk back to Israel.
For Rohingya, they could walk back to Bangladesh.

They could just walk.
The ships are not seaworthy, still they want sail South.
As Dean Winchester said, they had it coming.
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They can't because Bangladesh doesn't want them. They're already housing a large number of them and their economy is worse than ours. Plus, the Rohingya did side with Pakistan vs Bangladesh during the war so their relationship is kinda awkward.
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post May 18 2015, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 18 2015, 08:57 AM)
Let me test it.

Other countries don't want them, yet they still sail South.
Bangladesh doesn't want them, they can't walk back.
Don't be a lazy ass that opt for an easy way out.
Do you know many Rohingya went on board from Bangladesh?
Yes, they walked back to Bangladesh and got on the boat.

Walk back to Pakistan. If Rohingya is the ally of Pakistan, as you said. Their war, their problem. They just had it coming.
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They can't reach Pakistan without going through Bangladesh. laugh.gif

And I'm assuming those who left on the boats from Bangladesh were refugees who were already there in the first place. Many left Myanmar during the clashes but Bangladesh has been turning them away the past few years.
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post May 18 2015, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(ktard007 @ May 18 2015, 10:45 AM)
Pakistan got fight Bangla?? I thought they both muslim. hmm.gif
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They did when they fought for their independence. Look up the Bangladesh Liberation War. Bangladesh was once known as East Pakistan.

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post May 18 2015, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ May 18 2015, 10:45 AM)
We don't have to let these newcomers roam free.  biggrin.gif 

They can be detained in camps, like the Vietnamese boat people in the late 70s and 80s.

Also, there are already quite a number of Rohingyas with UNHCR refugee cards roaming around in Malaysia.  laugh.gif
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And what if the Myanmar government refuses to accept them back after 10 years? At the same time, the refugee population housed on that island has grown by 25% within that time. What then?
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post May 18 2015, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ May 18 2015, 10:55 AM)
That is why, there must be a concerted effort by the international community to put pressure on Myanmar.
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I don't see a way out for Myanmar too. Even if they did grant the Rohingya's wish for autonomy, they will face the Rohingyas' imminent militaristic expansion within the next few decades. I don't think the Rohingyas have the ability to self-govern and considering their ballooning population, it's only a matter of time till even Bangladesh is dragged in.

Plus, this isn't a good precedent to set. Illegal immigrants grabbing your land because of human rights doesn't sound fun if you imagine the Filipino migrants in Sabah demanding autonomy.

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