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Oil & Gas Careers V8, Upstream and Downstream, Crude Oil (WTI): USD 45.22/bbl
Oil & Gas Careers V8, Upstream and Downstream, Crude Oil (WTI): USD 45.22/bbl
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Jul 19 2015, 10:34 AM
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Jul 21 2015, 01:18 AM
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Jul 21 2015, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Jul 21 2015, 01:21 AM) You was a good senior, sadly time is hard for you. Already started, and quite happy with it. When I "lost" the job, I thought it was my end of day, but renting a small stall for rm300 and start selling noodles, I actually earn more. At least I no need to improve my PLP skills, not to mention I no need to pay 5 figures tax.It's time to start a new life. Wish you good luck |
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Jul 21 2015, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Jul 21 2015, 01:45 AM) Senior I feel proud of you.. honestly What type of constructive comments you like? Just come out some comments to deny our big companies doing mega retrenchments? Can, I got no problem to join your group of denial. After all, you guys like to kakikong, kakisong in this cyber world. But can you post more constructive /positive reply instead of pessimistic comments. Thank You But the bloody reality is, world economy are going to crash. Why ESSO Malaysia changed hand? Why Shell looking on converting to terminal or selling it out? A RAPID project that still unable to process crude oil from Middle East? Now most developed countries are going to stop oil refining and convert them to oil terminal, this is to reduce pollution and cost. This is the game that big companies are playing. In Saudi, there's another 2-3 mega refineries going to start up soon, all are Euro 6 and above compliant. Donkey years ago, people always says working in O&G are iron bowl. But iron is still iron, it will get rusted over the time |
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Jul 21 2015, 08:54 AM
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Jul 21 2015, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(jack~daniel @ Jul 21 2015, 09:53 AM) What I meant was even oil prices are declined, they won't adjust the oil prices according to current market price. That's because May got bi-elections where they shall be increasing rm0.20 but they never.So they are scooping back on June and July. For fuel price to come out, government only need 1 day in the month for high crude price. But for them to reduce fuel price, they need to have at least 3 weeks straight low price As Jib said before : rakyat diperbodohkan |
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Jul 21 2015, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(nash9701 @ Jul 21 2015, 02:17 PM) hence, please ensure current skill is applied to terminal as well, haha To stay in the game, new refinery that being built has to be ready with Euro6 and above, and should be processing high sulphur crude from Middle East. This is how to make money from low crude oil price.now RAPID oso need to consider Euro 6 as well, but still subjected to government how they lobby for this requirement extension, if the cost to high, then the option is to import Euro 6 fuel like current Euro 4. the more stringent the law, less ppl can comply, then u can control better the market, haha (^__^) Processing sweet crude won't do any good for long term |
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Jul 21 2015, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(nash9701 @ Jul 21 2015, 06:06 PM) Depend on what "long term" of business we are looking at, haha. Perhaps when RAPID ready for Euro 6, Euro 8 already come out, hehe. OnG company can lobby for it to government (Euro 4 implemented 2005) as u need huge investment for improvement. Government oso don't want them to close shop as these companies oso generate income to nation. You only need hydro treater to remove sulphur sweet crude = high price = less hassle to process = plant setup oso not complicated (plus u can push for higher Euro standard with minimal equipment upgrading) = but source limited sour crude = cheap = difficult to process = need high end equipment (cracker etc.) = source still abundant there is always pro n cons. also, problem when other ppl set higher standard and we have to decide whether u want to follow or not (immediately or later). big game to play (^__^) Those mega refineries are "complicated" as they are not just refining, more on producing chemical feed stock together. Price difference between sweet and sour crude can be USD30 per barrel, this is how Saudi making money now. |
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Jul 21 2015, 06:24 PM
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Jul 22 2015, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(nash9701 @ Jul 21 2015, 11:21 PM) mmg confirm delayed as usual... A hydro treater can be add on to existing refinery.u r right on this, hehe, i'm not expert on detail process. But still it just not as simple as to bring hydro-treater only to make the plant able to process sour crude Note : RAPID capacity 300kbd. Talking about USD 9M per day revenue (for USD30 barrel difference). (^__^) |
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Jul 22 2015, 09:00 AM
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Jul 22 2015, 01:40 PM
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Jul 22 2015, 02:01 PM
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Jul 22 2015, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jul 22 2015, 02:18 PM) Market analyst say that Crude Oil price will need 3yrs to recover and this view was b4 the Iran announcement. Saudi are changing their strategies, from just crude oil export last time, now they will start controlling this. Instead, they will be exporting finished products. Many ppl are expecting end of this year to next yr, but I doubt it... With another oil major country like Iran to pump to full capacity... How is Russia coping with this lower oil revenue? How long can ONG company retain the number of staff they have now if market continue to be bleak for another 2-3years to come? For oil relying countries, it is very sad for them, even a country in Africa has bankrupt on this and their leader openly cry and blame the 2 giants(US and Saudi) on causing this Now O&G companies are starting to slash or retrench their staffs, where upstream are the most impacted. Like Shell already planned to slash 1000 of its upstream staffs. Downstream looks ok, but usually before a thunderstorm, it will be dead quiet. Banking industries already slashed ~4000 within 18 months, so more will come. Better make sure you have other skills as when you accidentally get slashed, it will be your back up plan. Lucky that I know how to cook, so it does not really affect me. If were to say the effect, now everyday I have to wake up early and start preparing food. The return is, I no need to pay 5 figures of tax next year |
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Jul 22 2015, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jul 22 2015, 05:51 PM) Shell planning to cut 1000 of its upstream staffs worldwide? that isnt alot compare to their rather large workforce. Malaysia only. Cyberjaya IT already history since few years back. More to follow when oil price really test USD40 market as when reaching this price, digging from sea will make lost for every drop that being dig out If msia, then that is alot. If msia, then does that number include the cyberjaya staff which I dun think they are consider upstream... That's why I said, building the right refinery that can process sour crude will be the only way to survive in this cruel world. If not why Saudi keep on building mega refineries for the past 10 years? Now still got 2-3 refineries on the way that expecting to start up on 2016 and 2017, smallest also 400kbpd and Euro6 compliant This is why Petron and Shell making hell of profit on 1st Q while Petronas making less(even they dominate the market), because the cost increased on digging oil. Maybe Malaysia have to buy from them also later on, that's why you have a big oil terminal in Tanjung Bin. |
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Jul 22 2015, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(Binyamin @ Jul 22 2015, 07:04 PM) I appreciate hearing both sides. The only problem is some people might push their personal opinions as facts which is misleading. Just see the thread's sub title can know already, how butt hurt most fellows now. Oil price already at 50 but still refuse to change it, but trying to do personal attacks and deny the reality If you have to write personal opinion kindly indicate. http://biz.sinchew.com.my/node/119399?tid=6 If you can read Chinese, O&G companies and other field already had 1500 staffs being slashed |
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Jul 23 2015, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(Binyamin @ Jul 23 2015, 06:12 PM) I use google translate to translate the article from the link. It contain some helpful advice. Capital worldwide is shifting to safe haven countries and we are far from being done yet. Good See full points: http://biz.sinchew.com.my/node/119399?tid=6#ixzz3ghvihmSl Follow us:SinChewPress on Twitter | SinChewDaily on Facebook At least you spend some time on looking for truth your self rather than like some jokers that keep on deny the bloody fact. So, the question now is, does O&G career really still like last time's comfort zone 1997 economy crisis O&G survived, 2008's Lehman Brother's bankruptcy again O&G survived the wave. But now basically nothing special bad news and yet O&G can't survive |
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Jul 23 2015, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jul 23 2015, 09:05 PM) Interesting observation u give on the economy crisis since 1997... Everything, power, money, commodities are speculated This time there is no oil shortage, but rather pver supply especially since china the biggest consumer in the past years has cool off its demand... Oversupply, cheaper oil yup Thus affecting many lost of jobs So considering every aspect from political to war, it is not hard to predict. Still, I never expect the tsunami hit O&G's upstream till downstream |
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Jul 23 2015, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(Binyamin @ Jul 23 2015, 11:18 PM) There has been a lot happening. World wide liquidity especially government bonds and forex are drying up and it is taking longer for firms to dump their bonds on the market now especially US and EU bonds, there are hardly any bids. People in my industry that works at the trading desk that monitor order-flow and capital flow world wide knows about it and are really worried because a rush out of government bonds world wide can render high debt countries insolvent literally over night(as they buy back USD to unwind their USD denominated debt further increasing the USD). With USD on the rise and add to that liquidity and the world economy dries so does demand for oil dries and O and G price drop that is how it is related in a nut shell. Nope, is good that you are seeing the big picture and prepared for it.I am not trying to make anyone feel bad. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Shit will only hit those people still living in their denial world and kakikong, kakisong. |
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Jul 24 2015, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jul 24 2015, 01:14 AM) Eventhough you deleted, but thanks to supersound quoting u b4 u delete it lolx Recession sure will come, but all will try their best to delay it or cover it up.Thanks for the revelation Seem like 2017/2018 will be the next coming recession as targetted. Just like 1997/98 and 2007/08 and 1988 Now the question is... Will it be as big as the asian 1997 crisis? or mild like 2007 (which affect the EU and US) or would it be as big as the international 1988 crisis... Gotta be prepared... When this really happens, the damage sure will be worst than 1997 crisis. Have to know that, during 1997 crisis, people's debt to income ratio are lower compare to currently. So the magnitude of damage will be severe |
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