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 Oil & Gas Careers V8, Upstream and Downstream, Crude Oil (WTI): USD 45.22/bbl

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post Oct 9 2015, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 9 2015, 10:30 AM)
Sure, any field going in is not a problem, but getting slashed is a problem. You may get 5 figures when joined, but only can last you for few years and no job after that, what would you think at that time hmm.gif
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oil and gas easily get 5 figures?
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post Oct 9 2015, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 9 2015, 01:42 PM)
Lol. Slashed, yes. Minimal compensation and pay cut? Sejuk cerita, bang.
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Why? Are you expecting you still can get 6 figures on compensations? Indeed got, with a "." before the last 2 figures whistling.gif
Is no more like good old days, this is the trend now.

QUOTE(wywy2020 @ Oct 9 2015, 03:39 PM)
oil and gas easily get 5 figures?
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Yup, upstream's pay are quite high for a permanent staff. That's why when they are doing the slashing exercise, upstream's staffs is the first to go sweat.gif
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post Oct 10 2015, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 9 2015, 07:08 PM)
Why? Are you expecting you still can get 6 figures on compensations? Indeed got, with a "." before the last 2 figures whistling.gif
Is no more like good old days, this is the trend now.
Yup, upstream's pay are quite high for a permanent staff. That's why when they are doing the slashing exercise, upstream's staffs is the first to go sweat.gif
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they are getting a good increment every year or they join with a high salary?
how about support roles like accountant?
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post Oct 10 2015, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(wywy2020 @ Oct 10 2015, 11:48 AM)
they are getting a good increment every year or they join with a high salary?
how about support roles like accountant?
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It depends on how you join Shell.
As a fresh graduates, minimum pay are rm4+++ with 2 adjustments a year. 1 year to confirm and next year is the important time for you to perform(in terms of work and office politics).
If you are selected, congrats, your path is like going to top floor using private elevator.
Else, you still can climb, but with a jam packed elevator, worst case, gets kicked out when time are bad.
If join with experience, the pay would be higher as a start but no 2 adjustments.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 10 2015, 12:33 PM)
It depends on how you join Shell.
As a fresh graduates, minimum pay are rm4+++ with 2 adjustments a year. 1 year to confirm and next year is the important time for you to perform(in terms of work and office politics).
If you are selected, congrats, your path is like going to top floor using private elevator.
Else, you still can climb, but with a jam packed elevator, worst case, gets kicked out when time are bad.
If join with experience, the pay would be higher as a start but no 2 adjustments.
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Nonsense.



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post Oct 10 2015, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(reinzx @ Oct 10 2015, 12:54 PM)
Nonsense.
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Before you want to talk nonsense, why not show some proof that your nonsense are fact whistling.gif
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post Oct 10 2015, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 9 2015, 07:08 PM)
Why? Are you expecting you still can get 6 figures on compensations? Indeed got, with a "." before the last 2 figures whistling.gif
Is no more like good old days, this is the trend now.
Yup, upstream's pay are quite high for a permanent staff. That's why when they are doing the slashing exercise, upstream's staffs is the first to go sweat.gif
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Four figure compensation? I see you're doing well as a third-rate comedian after becoming an industry reject.

1.5 times years spent in the company, or years remaining. With a minimum salary of at least 15k, doesn't take a genius to figure out the majority will walk away with 6 figure sums.

Well, unless of course, they're terminated for under-performance, such as your case. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 10 2015, 12:33 PM)
It depends on how you join Shell.
As a fresh graduates, minimum pay are rm4+++ with 2 adjustments a year. 1 year to confirm and next year is the important time for you to perform(in terms of work and office politics).
If you are selected, congrats, your path is like going to top floor using private elevator.
Else, you still can climb, but with a jam packed elevator, worst case, gets kicked out when time are bad.
If join with experience, the pay would be higher as a start but no 2 adjustments.
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2 adjustments a year? Lol.

To potential Shell grads, your salary will get adjusted once a year on a different scale. The target is to get you up to a certain percentage of the PIR once you exit.
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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 04:33 PM)
Four figure compensation? I see you're doing well as a third-rate comedian after becoming an industry reject.

1.5 times years spent in the company, or years remaining. With a minimum salary of at least 15k, doesn't take a genius to figure out the majority will walk away with 6 figure sums.

Well, unless of course, they're terminated for under-performance, such as your case.  laugh.gif
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Well, the 41 MLNG2 staffs and soon to slash 1300 will tell you that you are wrong whistling.gif

This post has been edited by supersound: Oct 10 2015, 05:53 PM
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Well, the 41 MLNG2 staffs and soon to slash 1300 will tell you that you are wrong whistling.gif
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I'm wrong about what? I thought we're talking about compensation packages and that I already acknowledged that SSB is cutting staff? Care to point out where I'm wrong? whistling.gif

Have some sweets bro, you sound so bitter.

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 07:43 PM)
I'm wrong about what? I thought we're talking about compensation packages and that I already acknowledged that SSB is cutting staff? Care to point out where I'm wrong?  whistling.gif

Have some sweets bro, you sound so bitter.
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They don't get proper compensation whistling.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 10 2015, 08:06 PM)
They don't get proper compensation whistling.gif
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I've already stated out the compensation formula. It is up to the rest to judge whether it's fair or not.

Where did you pull that four-figure compensation from? That I'd like to hear.

Continue to twist and turn. Now like I said, go ahead and point out where I'm wrong rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 08:35 PM)
I've already stated out the compensation formula. It is up to the rest to judge whether it's fair or not.

Where did you pull that four-figure compensation from? That I'd like to hear.

Continue to twist and turn. Now like I said, go ahead and point out where I'm wrong  rolleyes.gif
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That is for normal VSS, if there is still got company wants to apply it. For Shell, the VSS package are better. But nope, they won't be using this.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 10 2015, 08:40 PM)
That is for normal VSS, if there is still got company wants to apply it. For Shell, the VSS package are better. But nope, they won't be using this.
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Continue to convince yourself. The package is published on the company's internal restructuring page. That, and plus they will get this year's bonus.

It was also officially announced that the company's existing redundancy package applies for those not selected for a role as part of the new organisation. Go check with any Shell staff. Seems like you have a lot of alibaba sources whistling.gif

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post Oct 10 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 09:17 PM)
Continue to convince yourself. The package is published on the company's internal restructuring page. That, and plus they will get this year's bonus.

It was also officially announced that the company's existing redundancy package applies for those not selected for a role as part of the new organisation. Go check with any Shell staff. Seems like you have a lot of alibaba sources  whistling.gif
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Well, my source never been wrong since 7 years back whistling.gif From upstream to downstream whistling.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 10 2015, 09:58 PM)
Well, my source never been wrong since 7 years back whistling.gif From upstream to downstream whistling.gif
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Your source has the talent to become an Utusan writer. 90% of what you've posted hold zero credibility. rolleyes.gif

I rest my case, what I've posted is published in black and white on the company's page. Fair or not, I won't comment, but the fact remains that anyone who is made redundant will be paid in full as per the company's existing redundancy policy, and there will be no pay cuts for those who secured a role in the new organisation.

All SMEP staff has been informed of this.


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post Oct 10 2015, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 11:14 PM)
Your source has the talent to become an Utusan writer. 90% of what you've posted hold zero credibility.  rolleyes.gif

I rest my case, what I've posted is published in black and white on the company's page. Fair or not, I won't comment, but the fact remains that anyone who is made redundant will be paid in full as per the company's existing redundancy policy, and there will be no pay cuts for those who secured a role in the new organisation.

All SMEP staff has been informed of this.
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Yup, that is if they are still working in Shell whistling.gif
But that 1300 mostly won't able to secure a post, so laid off is the way to go whistling.gif
Anyway, we have 2 years to see what is their faith thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 10 2015, 11:23 PM)
Yup, that is if they are still working in Shell whistling.gif 
But that 1300 mostly won't able to secure a post, so laid off is the way to go whistling.gif
Anyway, we have 2 years to see what is their faith thumbup.gif
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And your point is?

Of course those 1300 won't secure a post, because there WILL be 1300 cuts, which is approximately 30% of the entire organisation.

You're wrong about the redundancy payouts. You're wrong about staff getting pay cuts. You're wrong about the graduate pay scheme. And now you're just regurgitating what had been said in the news. LOL.

Wonder what made you so bitter about this industry. But fortunately for those getting laid off, they are still getting a comparatively handsome compensation.
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post Oct 11 2015, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Oct 10 2015, 11:32 PM)
And your point is?

Of course those 1300 won't secure a post, because there WILL be 1300 cuts, which is approximately 30% of the entire organisation.

You're wrong about the redundancy payouts. You're wrong about staff getting pay cuts. You're wrong about the graduate pay scheme. And now you're just regurgitating what had been said in the news. LOL.

Wonder what made you so bitter about this industry. But fortunately for those getting laid off, they are still getting a comparatively handsome compensation.
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Well, staffs from MLNG2, NGC, HP already a good example of pay cuts whistling.gif Did they get any handsome compensations? Nope, only 3-4 months signing bonus, very far from VSS's package since this signing bonus are taxable thumbup.gif
Also, 1300 out of 6500 is only 20%, get the numbers right first before trying to deny my facts doh.gif
After upstream, next will be downstream and very soon another good news will be announced.
Graduate scheme during good times is 2 times adjustment per year, can always ask the staffs from few years back.
BTW, I never feel bitter about this, is just a dirty fact that most people that get laid to rest can accept the fact whistling.gif
The so-called VSS only applicable when only 1-2 person get laid off, does not applicable to group laid off. Also, there's 3 package and it will be whichever lower payout. But now HR are doing for the fourth package, looking for buyer and give an 1 time signing bonus like what is done before whistling.gif
Now I'm a consultant, 1 call on the spot get rm500 for 2 hours and rm100 for next hour also tax free since is in cash term, so why I need to bitter about?
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