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Theory/Lessons Floyd-Rose Bridge Replacements
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MetalZone
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Oct 24 2006, 10:31 PM
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Any trem that has steel parts might have develop a rusting problem. If the trem is not plated well it might develop rust faster. Wipe down after playing is the least you can do, especially if you sweat a lot or have very acidic sweat.
As for ibanez parts, our only source is probably bentley, the only authorised distributor here. otherwise you'll probably have to buy them from singapore or ibanezrules.com
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MetalZone
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Oct 25 2006, 12:15 AM
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No Edge Pro won't fit your guitar without routing. You can order an OFR kit online which should include the stud bolts, anchor inserts, and locking nuts. If stud's distance vary from your guitar, then u'll have to redrill new stud anchors, which is at least better than routing your guitar body.
This post has been edited by MetalZone: Oct 25 2006, 12:17 AM
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MetalZone
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Oct 25 2006, 12:32 AM
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sorry I meant to say, No, the Edge Pro won't fit your guitar without routing.
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MetalZone
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Oct 25 2006, 04:09 AM
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As I said, order online.
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MetalZone
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Oct 25 2006, 01:37 PM
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You can try below for the Gotoh FR. Very good alternative to the OFR. Some say it's even better than an OFR. http://universaljems.com/cart/bridgelocking.htm
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MetalZone
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Oct 27 2006, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(MoNnY @ Oct 27 2006, 06:18 PM) you still have to get a trem of your choice. i would personally recommend the gotoh FR. or you can ask him to get the schaller FR for your in his next stewmac order. If you're not very familiar with installing trems and stuff, then after you got ur trem, bring ur guitar to him to install and setup for u.
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MetalZone
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Oct 27 2006, 07:06 PM
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oh is it? i dont know the schallers cost that much. they're called OFR II if i'm not mistaken rite? coz it doesn't say 'licensed', but instead it says Floyd Rose II, and made in germany by Schaller.
there again the price pretty much has determined your decision.
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MetalZone
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Oct 29 2006, 12:56 AM
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Gotoh makes the trems for Ibanez (the Edge, Lo-Pro Edge, and Edge Pro at least. donno about the Edge Pro II and Edge III). QUOTE(changhao @ Oct 28 2006, 08:48 PM) Then again, I can just change the bridge saddles right? Anyone has any idea how much a set of 6 of those will cost? You may as well change the whole trem to something better. Like the Gotoh FR for example. Besides, you'd have to find a saddle that you know for sure suits your trem. Otherwise you'll just make the issue worse. This post has been edited by MetalZone: Oct 29 2006, 01:01 AM
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MetalZone
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Oct 29 2006, 05:08 AM
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Gotoh Floyd Rose Licensed Locking Tremolo System, Chrome, With Locking Nut SB 5300-010 $123.75 + $21(EMS shipping) = US$144.75 x 3.5(you can buy paypal here at that rate from trustable sellers) = MYR 506.625 well it has steel saddles not stainless steel. but you should do your part by wiping down after every session. the most basic guitar care you can do to prevent rust. if you don't wanna get into this habit, then u may as well forget about your future more expensive guitars as you'll rust them down as well. the gotoh trem comes with locking studs it seems. something only ibanez and gotoh trems have i think. you'd have to get tham to replace your stud inserts though. on the contrary, consider if it's worth putting on your guitar. if you like it that much and you're not gonna part with it, go ahead by all means. it'll improve ur trem stability significantly from your current trem.
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MetalZone
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Oct 29 2006, 05:09 AM
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double post...
This post has been edited by MetalZone: Oct 29 2006, 05:11 AM
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MetalZone
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Oct 29 2006, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 29 2006, 08:25 AM) interesting. didnt know its now illegal in japan to use that black finish ibanez used to use on trems. thats why they released cosmo which is a weak attempt at black. Illegal? where did u saw that? is it coz of the new RoHS regulations? cosmo black doesn't look like a good replacement for flat black... but I really like the cosmo black finish though. QUOTE(akeiser @ Oct 29 2006, 01:34 PM) what i mean is OFR low profile version.... not Ibanez's version... OFR low profile version is the OFR Pro. But i'd suggest the Gotoh though. Cheaper and equally as good as the OFR. This post has been edited by MetalZone: Oct 29 2006, 02:18 PM
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MetalZone
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Oct 30 2006, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(antonio @ Oct 30 2006, 04:07 PM) Since this leads to some string discussion, i've been long awaiting to ask this particular question. Is there any electric guitar strings that wont rust???  stainless steel strings probably. daddario has them. the most common ones are steel or nickel plated steel. provided i play a particular guitar often, i change them around 1-2 months. Or I normally change the whole set once I break a string, unless it's only like less then 1 or 2 weeks old.
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MetalZone
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Oct 30 2006, 07:49 PM
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wah then if anybody goes down to singapore... grab me a bunch of strings. i'm serious hehe.
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MetalZone
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Oct 31 2006, 01:52 AM
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sean... i heard elixirs start peeling at the picking area if you are an agressive string whacker... has yours started peeling?
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MetalZone
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Nov 3 2006, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE(ian31 @ Nov 3 2006, 02:04 AM) since it's a floyd rose thread. Well i hope i can ask it here. Anybody knows where can i get a floyd rose saddle? I lost one of them and am not sure which shop sells them. Does bentley have them? did u lose the whole saddle or just the string lock block? what trem is that?
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MetalZone
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Nov 5 2006, 11:37 PM
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Thats why lar... akeiser... get the gotoh trem. universal jems selling the Gotoh Floyd Rose, Chrome, With Locking Nut at sale price of $123.75. It is just as good as an OFR.
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MetalZone
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Nov 6 2006, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(noisetrigger @ Nov 6 2006, 03:08 AM) ps-Fender owns the designs and patterns for the OFR, effectively giving them the power to license and revoke the FR design to/from anyone. I actually heard a rumour a few months back about how Fender is going to stop licensing the FR and stopping production so they can introduce a new design or something along those lines. Probably the increasing prices have something to do with this. They can't do much now anyway. the OFR patent has run out a few years ago (2003 i think). and the OFR Pro (low profile) patent is due to run out next year. Ibanez got sued coz they didn't license their new Edge Pro and Edge Pro II thinking that they can get away coz the OFR patent has run out, but in fact the OFR Pro (the low profile version) patent was still in force and the two new bridges Ibanez introduced are in fact of low profile design. The Edge III was promptly introduced coz they needed to cut the patent costs for the Edge Pro II, saying it is based on the OFR design so that they can avoid the licensing.
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MetalZone
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Nov 6 2006, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(noisetrigger @ Nov 6 2006, 04:33 PM) That's what I thought too, but who knows? Maybe they can extend the patent or something? Cause I still see a lot of OFR licensed trem around. Somehow, there are still companies paying royalties to Fender for the OFR design. I don't think they can. A patent always has a limited lifespan and you can't hold it forever. It is meant to protect the inventor so that they can make business out of it for a certain amount of time while others cannot just rip them off without paying patent licensing fees. The time span for the original OFR invention has run out and thus they can't charge licensing fees anymore for an expired patent. If you take a look at the Edge III, you won't see any "licensed by floyd rose patents" anymore (this is actually an irony, coz the saddle design is straight lo-pro, but they just increased the height of the fine tuners to make it look like its an OFR design). Even the Edge Pro didn't have at first, until they got sued, and they just stick a sticker on the sustain block. You will still see new trems based on the OFR Pro design have the "licensed" wording until next year, but probably a lot of trems still being produced still has that coz the die cast mold has already been made with the licensing words imprinted.
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MetalZone
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Nov 7 2006, 09:34 PM
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Not just that. A lot of people still prefer Ibanez's best trems as opposed to the OFR. Ibanez have made a lot of development to their trems and this is what made their name. this is what distinguished Ibanez from the other floating trem guitar makers.
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MetalZone
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Nov 8 2006, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 7 2006, 11:19 PM) all i said is basswood is very soft. and there are ibanez mods that are available to the posts to make it more stable in the softer basswood body right? true basswood is one of the softest woods used to make guitars. swamp ash is quite soft also but probably not as soft as basswood. mods? the only mod i've heard of is converting the non-locking studs of the current Edge Pro trems back to the old locking studs of the Edge/Lo-Pro.
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