hhgroup, very ho liao.........
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V149, Higher interest rate coming soon?
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V149, Higher interest rate coming soon?
|
|
May 7 2015, 04:40 PM
Return to original view | Post
#1
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
hhgroup, very ho liao.........
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 8 2015, 09:19 AM
Return to original view | Post
#2
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
May 12 2015, 11:13 AM
Return to original view | Post
#3
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
on next to kialim
|
|
|
May 13 2015, 08:37 AM
Return to original view | Post
#4
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
retired. means tired already but tire again.
|
|
|
May 18 2015, 04:00 PM
Return to original view | Post
#5
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
May 18 2015, 04:35 PM
Return to original view | Post
#6
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 18 2015, 04:38 PM
Return to original view | Post
#7
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
May 18 2015, 04:47 PM
Return to original view | Post
#8
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
May 18 2015, 04:53 PM
Return to original view | Post
#9
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
May 18 2015, 05:01 PM
Return to original view | Post
#10
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
May 19 2015, 05:17 PM
Return to original view | Post
#11
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
QUOTE(kalandra @ May 19 2015, 03:20 PM) Wow, really in 2 days KIA LIM went up more than 10% i have the same question. but will monitor tomorrow. been too busy to look at prices then suddenly boomWas thinking to buy yesterday but busy in the morning. Check during afternoon, already went up, thought of buying today if its goes down. Mana tahu rocket up again... Already too late to go in? Sky Sifu can beri some tunjuk ajar ah? |
|
|
May 21 2015, 04:08 PM
Return to original view | Post
#12
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
ready to reload on frontkn......but monitor first....i think this bloodshed will continue tomorrow
|
|
|
Jun 22 2015, 09:21 AM
Return to original view | Post
#13
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 22 2015, 03:01 PM
Return to original view | Post
#14
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
Jun 22 2015, 04:06 PM
Return to original view | Post
#15
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 22 2015, 03:04 PM) Most people mindsets are pre occupied with Greek problem..... so cannot see the sky.. i think can aim high but have to take note on the local sentiments........maybe in and out a few rounds can make you some moneyOnce the Greek problem is gone.....then u may see panic buy later ......maybe Tech stocks are doing well in US ..anyway FF make U Turn to buy in Bursa... but no doubt frontkn will reach high in future |
|
|
Jun 29 2015, 04:42 PM
Return to original view | Post
#16
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
sky tailow must be fed up as shit giving tips and advice
|
|
|
Jul 2 2015, 04:01 PM
Return to original view | Post
#17
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
Jul 15 2015, 03:05 PM
Return to original view | Post
#18
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 15 2015, 02:30 PM) Cold Eye’s 5 yardsticks for investment appreciate this sharing, thank youAuthor: Intelligent Investor Cold Eye listed 5 important criteria on his talk on 16-March-2013. 1. Return on Equity (ROE) 2. Cash Flow from Operations (OCF) and Free Cash Flow (FCF) 3. Price-Earning Ratio (P/E) 4. Dividend Yield (DY) 5. Net Tangible Asset (NTA) per share Return on Equity (ROE) * Investor want to have a reasonable return from the capital for the equity put in. * The return rate depend on the business risk. * You would want to have a risk that higher than a risk free rate. Says, bank FD provide interest rate of 4%, you will target for a min return say 10%-15% (6% - 11% above FD rate) for the risk you take. * [Note]: There is some issues and pitfall on ROE, do perform DuPont analysis on the ROE, or alternately I prefer to use ROIC. Cash Flow * Business owner would expect debtors pay you promptly and you don;t have to stock up a lot of inventories which tied up your capital. * Else, you have to put in more capital each year even you make one. * Do expect the hard cash received must be about the earnings each year. * For each year, the business need capex to keep it going (so the owner can ear more in future) - e.g. buy more/relenish equipment, buy/open more shops. * It would be good if the capex can be met with the cash I receveid from operations and owner no need to come up with more money. * It will be fantastic if there is still leftover money to draw out (diviend), or the company can have extra money to invest in other lucrative business. * Check * Average OCF same as reported earnigns over the years? * Is FCF in genral positive over the years? * Is the average FCF >= 5% of Revenue? * [Note]: You may want to read more on Cash Flow Statement Analaysis. Price-Earning Ratio (P/E) * A business might not be a right investment if price is nor right. If you buy a business with good ROE (say 30%) on P/E of 33 will only give you a earnings yield of only 3%. * If the yield is less than FD, you may want to put the money to bank to earn risk free return. * The prowess in investing is not knowing how to buying great companies at any price, but good companies at a cheap price. * We should look for company < 10 or < 15 (good company with growth prospect) * [Note]: P/E will ignore the debt an cash on the balance sheet. EV and EBIT is a good alternative if an investor want to take care on this item. Dividend Yield (DY) * How nice if my bussiness can have extra cash (FCF) after CAPEX investment and the left over money send back to owner as Dividend. (You may want to read more on Cash Flow Statement Analaysis.) * This way, the owner can have additional money to spend while the business is still growing and the dividend is likely ti increase in the future. * DY = Dividend per Share for a Year / Stock Price * It could be a good investment if DY > FD rate. Net Tangible Asset (NTA) per share * Investor can recoup the initial investment if the NTA worth more than what he put in. * If the NTA per share > stock price, you may be in for a bargain. * More valuable (e.g. hard cash, property, land) asset is better. * Receiveables - debtors might not want to pay me. * Inventories - it may be outdated. * Some business (e.g. service industry) where the important assets is not tangible e.g. its technology, brand name, people...... * [Note]: This is align with Benjamin Graham Net Net & Negative Enterprise Value. |
|
|
Jul 15 2015, 03:10 PM
Return to original view | Post
#19
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
|
Jul 16 2015, 09:54 AM
Return to original view | Post
#20
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,407 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: /k |
|
|
Topic ClosedOptions
|
| Change to: | 0.0457sec
0.24
7 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 3rd December 2025 - 02:05 AM |