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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V149, Higher interest rate coming soon?

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SKY 1809
post Aug 27 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Aug 27 2015, 12:36 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif how to define financial independance! can teach me? General worker labour here......  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Not that difficult so to speak..just target some Donors with B......much easy that getting the definition right .. hmm.gif

How to define Apple OS and Android softwares ...mind to share ?

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 27 2015, 12:44 PM)
Bursa heading to 1,600 by today?
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Hits 1600..apa u mau lagi hmm.gif
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Aug 27 2015, 02:50 PM)
end of today above 1600
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post Aug 28 2015, 01:43 PM

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This thread.... it seems more people talk..quality also diluted quite a lot ...Bonus issue problem maybe ... hmm.gif

Just off topic...

People demanded Rights to be taught ..instead of own self willingly to learn with open minded and mistakes .....that is the problem of today world......

Rights to be taught....let me check the Constitution first yawn.gif

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Aug 28 2015, 01:55 PM)
he think i so high
so i dont care much about him lo..
if he enter this market see how long he can last with tht attitude  cool.gif
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Jack Ma of Alibaba is closed to extinction..in today century .........so called the Forrest Gump type ....

Actually there is no short cut in investments like the expert says :-

The viciousness of these price falls in Bursa has caused a lot of anxiety of punters, speculators and investors alike. Bursa has entered into a bear market. Some of the culprits of this predicament are the 1AMD issues, the political situation, implementation of GST, expected interest rate hike, the steep falling Ringgit, the devaluation of Yuan, Greece, the fall in crude and palm oil prices. There are indeed plenty of problems in Malaysia and abroad. They are all real. But we are living in a world of political and economic diversity, and I cannot recall which year we don’t have a lot of problems which would impact the stock markets. So at times like these what should you do?

When you first embarked on this journey of value investing with me, I have mentioned to you some of the principles of value investing. The most important principle is that Mr. Market is a crazy guy. He is something of a manic depressive whose quotes often bear no relation to the state of the underlying business – swinging from the wild enthusiasm of offering high prices to the pitiful gloom of valuing the company for a dime.

Instead, spend more time now to refresh your skill in interpreting the financial statements, and especially the business valuation aspects which many of you have left behind. Share your analysis with others and receive positive feedback. Accept constructive criticisms. That is how you can improve your skills, knowledge and experience. in the process, you will find some real bargains.

The morale of the story > U need to figure out for yourself....what is deemed to be good or bad ......market noise is always around u whether u like it or not

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Honestly at this Merdeka .... we the West Malaysians should look East to East Malaysia especially Sarawak ... for our lost cultures......the so called multi racial and harmonic cultures .

Thanks darkknight81

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post Sep 10 2015, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 10 2015, 10:16 AM)
Lowest point will only be known when it is too late.

You never know you have bought the lowest point, until it bounced back up and never return to the lowest point.

So how to catch the lowest point on going?
You never know.

It is pure luck to catch the lowest point.

If look at history long term chart, if a stock drops from 10 to 5, and goes back up to 8, whether you have bought at 5.00 or 5.20 or 5.80 or even 6, it doesn't matter much, all are making decent gain.

If you keep on looking for lowest point, even when it touched 5 time, you still think it will go lower, so no buy keep on waiting for "lowest".
The stock bounced back up to 5.50.
5.50 is not lowest, no buy.
Then wait again, but it never goes back 5.00.
So, you have zero stock, and the stock goes back up to 8.

While the person earlier who bought 5.00, 5.20, 5.80 or 6, makes decent profit.
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Well Said, Cherroy thumbup.gif

Quote of the day ........perhaps


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Even if u can get the lowest price but without knowing the potentials of the said company......Most likely u just sell it for a few sen profit fast fast .....

Then wait for another bottom again ...?

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QUOTE(ekhoono @ Sep 10 2015, 12:40 PM)
Anyone go Fronken? Start to moved
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I have ..

My own analysis from last Q Profit $ Loss statement that comprehensive profit grows by 150% .....vs a reported EPS of minus 0.07 sen...which cause so much noise in the market....

Cash position jumped to 90M and NTA is up by 2sen a Q to 26sen..........Profit Guarantee of about rm 4m from TTES not factored in yet ..( by year end )

Just my own analysis for my own consumption .....and ignore the market noise...

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QUOTE(Brico @ Sep 10 2015, 02:01 PM)
HI SKY, thank you for sharing your analysis. What does TTES stand for?
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They bought over a co called TTES 45% owned last year ..giving out profit guarantee of 8M for 2 years to Fronkten ..........55% the other could be Petronas direct Bumi contractor ( not owned )

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Sep 10 2015, 10:21 PM)
Yup. Ppl tends to predict the market.
For me I would rather use the word manage. Investment is all about
How we manage our fund
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Ya u are right ...we manage our money to meet our own expectations........within our own acceptable risks ....

Many business decisions taken out there do not actually depend on CI points...........


1) mergers or takeover ..Bank of China may view it as lucrative to take over AMMB at this point of time ...Why not the ikan bilis buy then ?
2) How good the management is ....any diff between 200 or 1600 pts ?
3) Valuations and profitability of a co..Value Investing and what not .What industries are u targeting to invest..in
4) Highly geared or Cash rich Co
5) Margin of Safety factors ...try to build in as many of your own as possible.. more than the defined norm ...for me I take in Cash rich as one important factor , good exporter is another

BTW WB intends to put in 30B into buying a company or business..where else many fun managers look for exit doors ...due to interest rate factor . The point is Whether u are buying into a viable Business or are u purely a speculator on market movements ?

Manage your own expectations ...than to be in controlled by what others say about your investments...Some say Having the right knowledge is powerful than the CI point itself ...perhaps ? At 200 pts ..U cannot simply buy any co out there ..right .? .be selective...too

Regards

“A margin of safety is achieved when securities are purchased at prices sufficiently below underlying value to allow for human error, bad luck, or extreme volatility in a complex, unpredictable and rapidly changing world.”

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 14 2015, 01:45 PM)
Malaysia's Najib delivers RM20b boost for stock market
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/m...st-stock-market

Will Bursa react to the news?
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ValueCap, will invest in undervalued Malaysian companies.

"ValueCap was established in 2002 as an entity to support undervalued stocks and the result was effective as it managed to stabilise the stock market,”
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2015, 06:28 PM)
donno what to say  shakehead.gif  fav word "KLCI overvalue"  doh.gif
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In other words ....his CASH kept since Year 2011 has been partially eaten up by some White ants called Inflation n some red ants called Currency Depreciation .. biggrin.gif

Ringgit or Cash has cheapen over time.........killing me softly effect hmm.gif

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2015, 08:00 PM)
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Then u need to factor in some more

1) High fee charged annually for keeping as Cash
2) Opportunity Benefits lost over time ..since Year 2011
3) Frustration u need to bear with him.....

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Nov 2 2015, 02:57 PM)
now watching XOX show haha
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QUOTE(Brico @ Nov 3 2015, 09:27 AM)
0128 engine started
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CP Asia Holding GMBH the total integrated engineering solutions has acquired the shares through married trade as on June 23, 2015.( closing price H/L 0.285 - 0.265)

CP Asia is the German parent co of 0128 BTW



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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Nov 3 2015, 11:57 AM)
bunga raya drop untill no eye see
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Another Donation co hmm.gif

8M Sales Vs 63M loss ?

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Marco moves.....

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QUOTE(kennex @ Nov 4 2015, 11:37 AM)
sky gor any tips for marco?
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This one Marco jalan high....better go for the next one 0104...cheapest pink stock in town..in term of valuation

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