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TSafif95
post May 5 2015, 12:16 PM, updated 11y ago

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Disclaimer: I still count myself as a beginner. Barely have five-six months of experience under my belt. Decided to join the discussion here a few days ago after I found out the existence of this subforum.

So let's talk about beginners, and being one. We were all there at that point. I suppose I don't exactly have a main argument except a few things that I found online that were interesting. I want to also share my experience so far as I've been lifting. Maybe you guys can address the below points, or maybe share your experience as beginner?

Questions:

For example, why do trainers (Jason Blaha, in particular) stress that beginners should find a programme, stick with it, and don't mess anything (Add isos, change sets, reps etc.). I understand that the number of reps and sets change the workload on your muscle and hence affects whether the fibres strengthen or the muscles "pump" (Correct me if I'm wrong), but why the extreme rigidity? Is overworking a serious problem?

Another thing that I don't particularly understand is why the notion against "brosplits" aka the random choice of exercises to work separate muscle groups according to muscle group days. I mean, is there a real issue behind brosplits? This "programme" seems to be under a lot of fire from Reddit, Bodybuilding, etc.

Experience:

With that, I wanna talk about my experience. I've always wanted to lift (Since I was 16 lol), but I didn't have access to a gym due to me being in a boarding school. It was only when I was 19 I realised there were two pay-per-entry gyms around my area (Subang), then I told myself that unlike the previous years, I really don't have an excuse this time. So I've been an active lifter since. Started with brosplits (Shoot me) with no clear aim, then started StrongLifts a month back, today I'm switching to ICF 5x5 as it's a more wholesome programme with good volume distribution. I've set my goal to strength for now. Don't really know why, but maybe because I believe that strength is the basis for bodybuilding. Could be wrong.

Since I'm situated in a boarding prep college, my friends and I set up a home gym with a barbell and a few dumbbells. Kind of maxing out on the weights we have already, so I'm planning to go to the college gym. When I'm home, I go to either Blitz or War3house. I'll be a more frequent War3house goer, because they have more bars. Also signed up to a Celebrity Fitness gym that's opening in Mid-June.

Also, I've met a bunch of guys along the way. There was this dude who was really helpful when I started, and taught me how to squat and deadlift. Also taught me some variations. I've also seen skinny guys with sibeh so high face staring at people intensely while doing 5 lbs curls (Funniest thing ever). And unfortunately, the arrogant "musclehead" types, but they're really a minority. Most people I've interacted with were nice.

Anyone wanna share their beginner experience/story?

This post has been edited by afif95: May 5 2015, 12:17 PM

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afif95   Discussion on beginner lifters   May 5 2015, 12:16 PM
Armesh   SL is pure rubbish while ICF 5x5 is absolute trash...   May 5 2015, 12:39 PM
afif95   I've seen this before and I'll start tod...   May 5 2015, 04:58 PM
ah_suknat   what the...fark.... this is so far the most rubb...   May 7 2015, 01:34 PM
fas29   and you said the routine is rubbish just because ...   May 13 2015, 01:08 AM
Armesh   I understand there are differences between peopl...   May 13 2015, 01:51 AM
Miracles   I'm sorry.. but what? You started lifting i...   May 5 2015, 10:05 PM
Armesh   As I'm aware: 1x bw bench = Intermediate 1....   May 5 2015, 10:59 PM
ya u mad   those number doesnt mean anything, we all have d...   May 6 2015, 03:41 PM
darklight79   Show me your lifts. Vids if you don't mind. ...   May 8 2015, 05:50 PM
degraw1993   Bro i would suggest go search darklight journal ...   May 5 2015, 11:45 PM
Armesh   Are you like fucking stupid? I didn't give O...   May 6 2015, 12:07 AM
degraw1993   Lel i suggest u go bulk up first not trying to b...   May 6 2015, 12:19 AM
alien9   Lol, you are confuse. Those number are for people...   May 6 2015, 11:31 AM
Armesh   I feel "gym experience" is useless. I ...   May 6 2015, 02:23 PM
darklight79   Let me show you how I build some of my boys up. ...   May 8 2015, 06:14 PM
fas29   Wow are you free next week? I wanna train with yo...   May 11 2015, 02:44 AM
alien9   Dan Green, world record powerlifter, been lifting...   May 6 2015, 03:16 PM
degraw1993   There let me highlight that important reply for ...   May 6 2015, 03:29 PM
ah_suknat   big guys are humble, small guys are arrogant its...   May 7 2015, 01:56 PM
fas29   Bruhhhh :thumbs:   May 11 2015, 02:43 AM
rakyat   Err but Pacman lost while big mouth Mayweather won...   May 6 2015, 04:37 PM
ah_suknat   its rather a mix of both a good player does not ...   May 7 2015, 01:39 PM
alien9   Yeah, pacman lost but obviously you don't gra...   May 6 2015, 04:40 PM
Armesh   I also same. Tall, skinny, 5.8 inch wrist, long ...   May 6 2015, 04:47 PM
alien9   Nope. I don't do that. I don't really giv...   May 6 2015, 05:02 PM
degraw1993   Just don't bother la bro :w :w Even if u ...   May 6 2015, 06:04 PM
rakyat   Afif U mentioned a celebrity fitness going to op...   May 6 2015, 05:27 PM
afif95   I'm talking about the one in Main Place. The...   May 6 2015, 10:11 PM
ah_suknat   hi afif I highly recommend you to read aworkoutr...   May 7 2015, 01:55 PM
afif95   [spoiler][/spoiler] Thanks for all your posts, ma...   May 7 2015, 11:05 PM
ah_suknat   isolation body building work out is not going to ...   May 8 2015, 12:51 AM
alien9   Don't get me wrong. You probably have an issu...   May 6 2015, 06:14 PM
degraw1993   I don't have an issue and i don't even g...   May 6 2015, 06:18 PM
helven   I just notice I'm also benching my BW squating...   May 6 2015, 08:48 PM
minuet   am a beginner myself and currently doing SL 5x5. i...   May 7 2015, 05:04 AM
ah_suknat   most, if not all beginners lifters, start lifting...   May 7 2015, 02:19 PM
Manlet   It doesnt work this way Coaches are knowledgeable...   May 7 2015, 02:28 PM
ah_suknat   you say a woman cant outlift a man? my GF can ou...   May 7 2015, 02:39 PM
Armesh   Quit falmming lar. The standards we put on ourse...   May 8 2015, 01:11 AM
ah_suknat   first, you dont call yourself and intermediate li...   May 8 2015, 07:12 AM
alien9   RE: Discussion on beginner lifters   May 8 2015, 09:26 AM
razorboy   1) Because there's much to learn, young one....   May 8 2015, 09:35 AM
-ccy-   Just my 2 cents about bro split. I assume your bro...   May 8 2015, 02:08 PM
db07mufan   Here is my notion on fullbody vs splits for beginn...   May 8 2015, 04:37 PM
degraw1993   So where's this skinny to buff guy? Still look...   May 9 2015, 08:28 PM
esy   ... first and foremost, I do agree Armesh is a bit...   May 10 2015, 03:26 PM
mikehuan   the ego going on here is astounding. *runs awa...   May 11 2015, 12:53 PM
Armesh   Got them vids for you bro. Here: https://forum.l...   May 11 2015, 05:49 PM
ps3roxor   You've only been lifting for 5 months. You r...   May 11 2015, 11:39 PM
Armesh   Oh lol. I lifted for like total of ~9 months act...   May 12 2015, 01:11 AM
db07mufan   What did you mean by no upper body gains on ICF? S...   May 12 2015, 02:56 PM
Armesh   Stall on weight. Triceps could never recover. Be...   May 12 2015, 05:49 PM
inzaghi84   hi, i need some advise on how to reduce my bodyfat...   May 13 2015, 10:30 AM
roxx   Yours is same like me.. 35BF 181cm 115kg Just ...   May 13 2015, 11:45 AM
ah_suknat   you are seeing results, so whats the problem? jus...   May 13 2015, 04:18 PM
roxx   Yes. I'm seeing the result and am happy with...   May 13 2015, 04:46 PM
ah_suknat   my bet is the sensation that you feel is DOMS or ...   May 13 2015, 10:48 PM
roxx   Indeed.. I didnt do any stretching before and af...   May 14 2015, 08:48 AM
ah_suknat   yes, for fat-beginners, it is possible to grow mu...   May 13 2015, 03:55 PM
alien9   Fixed   May 13 2015, 04:09 PM
inzaghi84   ok thanks. will try it 1st. :nod:   May 14 2015, 09:27 AM
janson_kaniaz   I don't judge people but people in the gym or ...   May 14 2015, 06:54 AM
lingleeyen   I don't believe that a skinny guy cannot lift...   May 14 2015, 09:42 AM
janson_kaniaz   I didn't mention anything about who is right...   May 14 2015, 10:35 AM
Armesh   If you ask me, I judge people by having some con...   May 14 2015, 12:27 PM
ya u mad   malaysia bodybuilding is shit , all about juicin...   May 14 2015, 12:34 PM
ya u mad   malaysia bodybuilding is shit , all about juicin...   May 14 2015, 12:34 PM
Armesh   My area yea. It's ALOOOT. If the guy is 70+ ...   May 14 2015, 12:44 PM
fas29   The problem is you need to stop worrying about wh...   May 15 2015, 01:14 PM
janson_kaniaz   Didn't you say in another thread that you do...   May 14 2015, 01:18 PM
AnythingK   Dafuq is all this, I came in here to look for advi...   May 14 2015, 11:44 AM
low yat 82   lol. its been like this since i frequent visit ...   May 14 2015, 12:13 PM
degraw1993   RE: Discussion on beginner lifters   May 14 2015, 12:16 PM
alien9   Apparently you should start at the pinned (sticky...   May 14 2015, 11:49 AM
AnythingK   Ok, will do. :)   May 14 2015, 11:54 AM
Everdying   ok this is about discussion for beginners. keep it...   May 14 2015, 12:40 PM
alien9   a 70kg can't have 10% bf?   May 14 2015, 01:03 PM
AnythingK   Haha, they have the body to actually prove their...   May 14 2015, 01:20 PM
low yat 82   cool! so its time to mess awhile wit barbell...   May 14 2015, 02:59 PM
Armesh   Of course can. Even 75KG 8% bodyfat also 100% can...   May 14 2015, 01:49 PM
alien9   Fuck me! I can't understand your reply. J...   May 14 2015, 01:57 PM
Armesh   I break it down lar: 1. Untrained guy goes to g...   May 14 2015, 02:27 PM
degraw1993   Mods just close this thread la TS already gt his a...   May 14 2015, 02:04 PM
AnythingK   Yea, I had been playing around for the first 2 m...   May 14 2015, 03:13 PM
low yat 82   wahaha..ok la. so fas already bosan. but u sure ...   May 14 2015, 03:21 PM
degraw1993   Dat dere broscience and why the hell u do should...   May 14 2015, 03:25 PM
-ccy-   http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1...   May 14 2015, 03:26 PM
Miracles   http://www.rohitnair.net/pp/ Here you can have...   May 14 2015, 03:24 PM
AnythingK   3months+ ad, where got fast. Yes, that's why ...   May 14 2015, 03:28 PM
stromtrooper   Bro, can I do back & sholder (rear and side) ...   May 14 2015, 03:32 PM
degraw1993   Sure   May 14 2015, 03:53 PM
christ14   well..this thread is a little unexpected. lol gue...   May 14 2015, 03:59 PM
ah_suknat   strong lift is ok for beginner, if you are some w...   May 14 2015, 04:57 PM
christ14   thanks the 2 sifus any other tips? or got spe...   May 14 2015, 06:08 PM
Miracles   Can you handle PHAT? It's a 5 days per week....   May 14 2015, 04:02 PM
christ14   ya...i think i like the strength and hypertrophy...   May 14 2015, 04:08 PM
Miracles   Same thoughts bro. I wanna be strong and yet loo...   May 14 2015, 05:33 PM
Miracles   Just lift. No special formula. You could add in ...   May 14 2015, 07:10 PM
helven   Definitely thumbs up for this :thumbs: :thumbs: ...   May 15 2015, 11:56 AM
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