Rawang still a good place to invest?
Rawang still a good place to invest?, Some say not good, some say good
Rawang still a good place to invest?, Some say not good, some say good
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Apr 29 2015, 10:57 PM, updated 11y ago
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Rawang still a good place to invest?
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Apr 30 2015, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE(alextanck84 @ Apr 29 2015, 11:57 PM) rawang is never a good place to invest, and it will never be a good place to invest for at least in the next 10 years swiss228 liked this post
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Apr 30 2015, 07:45 AM
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Not a bad place.. but now and the near future, developments are more concentrate at the south:
Cheras to Cheras South, Sg Long & Mahkota Cheras, Kajang, Semenyih Serdang to Putrajaya & Cyberjaya Bukit Jalil to Puchong, Kota Kemuning, Seta Alam Nearest catalyst near Rawang is Sg Buloh, which is not so near actually.. but the it's only hope. This post has been edited by InF.anime: Apr 30 2015, 07:50 AM |
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Apr 30 2015, 08:54 AM
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u'll be better off somewhere else than rawang.
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Apr 30 2015, 09:37 AM
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forget things at the north~ the south is where u want to look at
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Apr 30 2015, 09:51 AM
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This will translate to cheaper property in Rawang, no?
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Apr 30 2015, 09:55 AM
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Huge Business activity, infra, power (center of government), IT hub, entertainment/big event hub like f1, international concert event, HSR, airport. All located at south or near south.
U may said cannot compare n all depend on your working spot either at north or south. But you can't denied south have more opportunities than north. The lag behind development gap at southern strategic spot give more space to grow than north. This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Apr 30 2015, 09:57 AM |
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May 5 2015, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(alextanck84 @ Apr 29 2015, 10:57 PM) few years ago = yes. Now = subjective and depending on market. Own stay, everywhere also same. for investment, even KL address will bring you negative with surrounding element. therefore, it's better for you to make full research of the place you intend to invest. |
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May 5 2015, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(administrators @ Apr 30 2015, 07:04 AM) rawang is never a good place to invest, and it will never be a good place to invest for at least in the next 10 years did u invest in rawang? I have to say i disagreed with you. Rawang ain't a good place to invest during late 90s but definitely a good place to invest 5 years ago. just my 2 cents. |
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May 5 2015, 03:03 PM
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May 5 2015, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 5 2015, 02:18 PM) did u invest in rawang? I have to say i disagreed with you. Rawang ain't a good place to invest during late 90s but definitely a good place to invest 5 years ago. just my 2 cents. i have to said..currently the road condition are not able fullfill the traffic during peak hourterrible jam..all the developer are develop the area near by anggun i just cant imagine if all the houses currently built are tenanted. in another words...more and more people are looking in rawang, but first..need to upgrade the road first ma... |
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May 5 2015, 05:16 PM
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the development is little bit slow here I think because of the access road condition. better wait until the road upgrade is complete if want to invest.
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May 5 2015, 07:49 PM
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8 out of 12 responded negatively.
Is there a systematic reason why? |
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May 5 2015, 10:18 PM
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May 5 2015, 10:19 PM
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sorry.... accidentally posted twice
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May 5 2015, 10:25 PM
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for investment what is your expected yield? What is the rental rate?
Have you check the surrounding. Does it have lots of business setting up in the area? facilities? access to other areas? universities and schools? Are you staying nearby in case someone wants to rent or in case your tenant needs something fix and you have to assess the property? What are the maintenance fees, sinking fund, etc If you expect it to rise few folds then you really have to wait for the next 15 years. Road work maybe 5 years timeframe, public transport maybe 5 to 10 years, mature township and business setup maybe 8 to 15 years This post has been edited by Avex: May 5 2015, 10:29 PM |
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May 5 2015, 10:33 PM
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saw a banner on the way back just now.
Early bird discount for new double storey terrace housr in Rawang Country Homes. Freehold, from rm638k. Sifus....any comment on this project? |
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May 5 2015, 11:22 PM
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Most importantly the house prices appreciated multiple folds. So investment returns are good.
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May 5 2015, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 5 2015, 07:49 PM) some ppl prefer north some prefer south. No right and wrong answer but more to personal preference. If your daily routine is more at the North, there is no point you invest in Cyberjaya, or Sepang |
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May 6 2015, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(parkerfu @ May 5 2015, 03:21 PM) i have to said..currently the road condition are not able fullfill the traffic during peak hour yes, agreed with you on the Traffic. But not during peak hour. It occur during off peak and weekend due to AEON attract most of rawang ppl there. i agreed on the lousy road condition. but if the access road is nice and easy, the price would had peaked. that's why you invest before the infra is up to gain more appreciation. just my 2 cents.terrible jam..all the developer are develop the area near by anggun i just cant imagine if all the houses currently built are tenanted. in another words...more and more people are looking in rawang, but first..need to upgrade the road first ma... road upgrade is a must. it's the matter of time and waiting budget from government. I foresee this year will commence the work due to collected gst. |
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May 6 2015, 12:26 PM
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Now? Sorry no.
It depends what is your aim. For own stay with proper G&G and more lay back life style I say go ahead. If you want to play rental sorry to tell you no such market. A Semi-D in Anggun 2 is rented below 2k now partly furnished. Barely 4% yield provided you buy back in 2010. If you don't mind 5 - 10 years for it to grow then i will say go ahead. Road condition, environment is still not there yet. Most new development are on the Jusco side, good 10-15 minutes drive to main commercial area old / new town area. And don't forget the jam on weekends. Nearer to it is Country Home and upcoming Anggun City. I stayed in Subang for 20 years before moving into Anggun 2 few months back. This post has been edited by bearbear: May 6 2015, 12:30 PM |
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May 6 2015, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 5 2015, 03:18 PM) did u invest in rawang? I have to say i disagreed with you. Rawang ain't a good place to invest during late 90s but definitely a good place to invest 5 years ago. just my 2 cents. in investment we judge the previous, see the current, and predict the future... 5 years ago, everywhere is a good place to invest, so don't judge it based on the 5 years performance, and look into the numerous projects in the next 10 years, which one of those are beneficial to Rawang? bandar malaysia, sungai besi, salak south, bukit jalil, serdang, putrajaya, etc, those KL south is the focus...just my 2 cents too |
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May 6 2015, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 6 2015, 09:23 AM) it has already boom.a double storey link house in Emerald East was launched at 160K some years ago, and now is selling at 450K. As i mentioned, if u are already currently staying at the Northern Part of KLV, Rawang is not too far. Rawang toll to Damansara Toll is merely 14 minutes. |
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 6 2015, 02:17 PM) it has already boom. When was Emerald East launched?a double storey link house in Emerald East was launched at 160K some years ago, and now is selling at 450K. As i mentioned, if u are already currently staying at the Northern Part of KLV, Rawang is not too far. Rawang toll to Damansara Toll is merely 14 minutes. I went to the Emerald West launching. |
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May 6 2015, 02:23 PM
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Good investment point of view if invested money in Emerald East.
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May 6 2015, 04:04 PM
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Rawang still NOT a good place to invest.
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May 6 2015, 04:35 PM
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Many in lowyat.net are anti Rawang
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May 6 2015, 04:53 PM
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some serious infra is missing in Rawang, it is the linkage to sungai buloh and the whole corridor down to KL is NOT well developed.
In terms of investing style, you BUY growth property/stock at higher price and sell higher. Value investors wud BUY undervalued property/stock and aim for future rerating catalysts...in this case, the MISSING INFRA... |
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May 6 2015, 04:58 PM
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More than 1 hour drive to KLIA. Scary for those traveler.
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QUOTE(keponggangster @ May 6 2015, 04:53 PM) some serious infra is missing in Rawang, it is the linkage to sungai buloh and the whole corridor down to KL is NOT well developed. Buy higher and sell higher. Where?In terms of investing style, you BUY growth property/stock at higher price and sell higher. Value investors wud BUY undervalued property/stock and aim for future rerating catalysts...in this case, the MISSING INFRA... |
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May 6 2015, 05:46 PM
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For investment, you should look for condo which not in Rawang. Own stay, i think Rawang is ok.
One thing to add, there are many factory and big truck near there, dangerious man... |
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 6 2015, 12:19 PM) yes, agreed with you on the Traffic. But not during peak hour. It occur during off peak and weekend due to AEON attract most of rawang ppl there. i agreed on the lousy road condition. but if the access road is nice and easy, the price would had peaked. that's why you invest before the infra is up to gain more appreciation. just my 2 cents. The road upgrading works slow like snail, doubt they can done it end of this year. The newly completed high construction cost Batu Arang flyover banner got many..but no tree/plants at all, really really bad!road upgrade is a must. it's the matter of time and waiting budget from government. I foresee this year will commence the work due to collected gst. |
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QUOTE(Avex @ May 5 2015, 10:25 PM) for investment what is your expected yield? What is the rental rate? +1Have you check the surrounding. Does it have lots of business setting up in the area? facilities? access to other areas? universities and schools? Are you staying nearby in case someone wants to rent or in case your tenant needs something fix and you have to assess the property? What are the maintenance fees, sinking fund, etc If you expect it to rise few folds then you really have to wait for the next 15 years. Road work maybe 5 years timeframe, public transport maybe 5 to 10 years, mature township and business setup maybe 8 to 15 years |
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The govt collect tax from residents so govt need to provide this infrastructure.
I am planning to invest in undervalue areas for max appreciation. Looks like Rawang is now not a priority. |
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 6 2015, 12:26 PM) Now? Sorry no. Anggun 2, good buy! Landed property rental play always no such market unless close to college area like SS15..It depends what is your aim. For own stay with proper G&G and more lay back life style I say go ahead. If you want to play rental sorry to tell you no such market. A Semi-D in Anggun 2 is rented below 2k now partly furnished. Barely 4% yield provided you buy back in 2010. If you don't mind 5 - 10 years for it to grow then i will say go ahead. Road condition, environment is still not there yet. Most new development are on the Jusco side, good 10-15 minutes drive to main commercial area old / new town area. And don't forget the jam on weekends. Nearer to it is Country Home and upcoming Anggun City. I stayed in Subang for 20 years before moving into Anggun 2 few months back. |
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 6 2015, 07:56 PM) The govt collect tax from residents so govt need to provide this infrastructure. Two years back am looking Kepayang Heights, this year Kota Seriemas, do you think got potential or not?I am planning to invest in undervalue areas for max appreciation. Looks like Rawang is now not a priority. |
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 5 2015, 10:19 PM) yes, agreed with you on the Traffic. But not during peak hour. It occur during off peak and weekend due to AEON attract most of rawang ppl there. i agreed on the lousy road condition. but if the access road is nice and easy, the price would had peaked. that's why you invest before the infra is up to gain more appreciation. just my 2 cents. Sorry but my friends that live in rawang talk about upgrade road for more than 20 years..than they build that flyover near the toll.. road upgrade is a must. it's the matter of time and waiting budget from government. I foresee this year will commence the work due to collected gst. Mind u investors, half of jalan batu arang NO LIGHTS.. only lights are those car light n traffic light. road still 1 lane when surrounding all messy tree/factory.. Rawang may have appreciated but the township development/commercial elements is the among the WORST in KV.. try driving thr this weekend night to get a feel of rawang I will video tape/take pics next time This post has been edited by Babizz: May 6 2015, 10:44 PM |
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QUOTE(Babizz @ May 6 2015, 10:42 PM) Sorry but my friends that live in rawang talk about upgrade road for more than 20 years..than they build that flyover near the toll.. i agree with you, the problem in Rawang is there are many pocket developments but no single master developer.Mind u investors, half of jalan batu arang NO LIGHTS.. only lights are those car light n traffic light. road still 1 lane when surrounding all messy tree/factory.. Rawang may have appreciated but the township development/commercial elements is the among the WORST in KV.. try driving thr this weekend night to get a feel of rawang I will video tape/take pics next time Unlike township like Setia Alam, master developer willing to invest in infrastructure |
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 6 2015, 08:50 AM) i agree with you, the problem in Rawang is there are many pocket developments but no single master developer. Problem is there is no single developer who wana be the regional commercial area for the plac.. setia alam would not be wht it is today if not for support from jln meru crowd etc.. its the regional commie area for jln meru side.. Unlike township like Setia Alam, master developer willing to invest in infrastructure mainly cant compare rawang n setia alam as 1 is a township (setia alam) n the other one a town (kampung for me as small town like kuala selangor is more develop).. Rawang majlis not good n also too many low end factories.. i rmbr driving into country home tht day n saw hundreds of foreigner n looks like a big commotion.. aiyo, dnt wanna complain here |
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QUOTE(Babizz @ May 6 2015, 10:57 PM) Problem is there is no single developer who wana be the regional commercial area for the plac.. setia alam would not be wht it is today if not for support from jln meru crowd etc.. its the regional commie area for jln meru side.. Agree! Majlis Perbandaran Selayang very lousy!mainly cant compare rawang n setia alam as 1 is a township (setia alam) n the other one a town (kampung for me as small town like kuala selangor is more develop).. Rawang majlis not good n also too many low end factories.. i rmbr driving into country home tht day n saw hundreds of foreigner n looks like a big commotion.. aiyo, dnt wanna complain here |
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QUOTE(administrators @ May 6 2015, 02:04 PM) in investment we judge the previous, see the current, and predict the future... 5 years ago, everywhere is a good place to invest, so don't judge it based on the 5 years performance, and look into the numerous projects in the next 10 years, which one of those are beneficial to Rawang? bandar malaysia, sungai besi, salak south, bukit jalil, serdang, putrajaya, etc, those KL south is the focus... agreed too. however, location you mentioned above (except putrajaya) are merely 20km radius from KLCC? which in my opinion can't compare to rawang due to the distance. yes, i would agreed with you on potential of development which rawang don't have much mega project. but that doesn't mean it won't be a good place to invest. in investment, i would look at "potential" vs "establish" where rawang could be on the higher risk category. but nevertheless, high risk = high return. another of my 2 cents. just my 2 cents too QUOTE(keponggangster @ May 6 2015, 04:53 PM) some serious infra is missing in Rawang, it is the linkage to sungai buloh and the whole corridor down to KL is NOT well developed. hmm... seems like PLUS 4th lane is still missing between Rawang - Sg. Buloh. In terms of investing style, you BUY growth property/stock at higher price and sell higher. Value investors wud BUY undervalued property/stock and aim for future rerating catalysts...in this case, the MISSING INFRA... QUOTE(New Klang @ May 6 2015, 04:35 PM) that's normal because many refer rawang = bkt beruntung and rawang = far. |
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ May 6 2015, 05:46 PM) For investment, you should look for condo which not in Rawang. Own stay, i think Rawang is ok. Rawang also can invest. In fact, smaller town also can invest. the main concern is, how many % of return you want to get back and within how many years. One thing to add, there are many factory and big truck near there, dangerious man... btw, it seems like Kepong Industrial Park or Puchong doesn't have big factory and truck. QUOTE(37 Exposures @ May 6 2015, 07:46 PM) The road upgrading works slow like snail, doubt they can done it end of this year. The newly completed high construction cost Batu Arang flyover banner got many..but no tree/plants at all, really really bad! Government no money la. have to postpone here and there. now gst in place, i think the construction will start sooner. QUOTE(Babizz @ May 6 2015, 10:42 PM) Sorry but my friends that live in rawang talk about upgrade road for more than 20 years..than they build that flyover near the toll.. between toll to BCH, there is lamp post. not many and some are dim. Yes, i agreed township is badly plan. thanks to Tanco lo. 20 years ago it was a hype and promises by who else... "Tanco" and "B-end" lo. But thing change after 2008 where "pee-kay-are" took over. but still ... i think progress is slow. btw, few developers need to chip in money for Jln Bt Arang upgrade (toll to BTP junction). that's why it's a bit slow. Mind u investors, half of jalan batu arang NO LIGHTS.. only lights are those car light n traffic light. road still 1 lane when surrounding all messy tree/factory.. Rawang may have appreciated but the township development/commercial elements is the among the WORST in KV.. try driving thr this weekend night to get a feel of rawang I will video tape/take pics next time do give me a buzz if you drop by AEON. we can go yam cha. |
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Will lower price attract investors despite of all these negativities?
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 7 2015, 11:05 AM) Not really low anymore nowadays. Emerald area property is selling at close to RM400 per square feet now. And like most said road condition is very bad there especially Jalan Batu Arang, which is the main road to go in/out emerald. |
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 7 2015, 11:05 AM) Do your own due diligent. Most of the time you do not need other to acknowledge your investment. Some times ago, many ppl invest in Mont Kiara as majority of ppl doing it and it is regard as safer bet, and now apparently it is over supply now in MK, friends take 6-12 months to rent out his unit. Now many focus in the south of KLV, Cbyerjaya or Sepang, or Dengkil, or even in the South of Peninsular, i.e. Iskandar Malaysia. I would foresee the oversupply in this area, as there is no organic growth on the population |
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rawang an isolated place man..... bad connectivity......
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 7 2015, 11:26 AM) Do your own due diligent. Most of the time you do not need other to acknowledge your investment. Organic growth is very important, many new township VPed 3-5yrs still got many empty units, that's why I like to visit new township at night..Some times ago, many ppl invest in Mont Kiara as majority of ppl doing it and it is regard as safer bet, and now apparently it is over supply now in MK, friends take 6-12 months to rent out his unit. Now many focus in the south of KLV, Cbyerjaya or Sepang, or Dengkil, or even in the South of Peninsular, i.e. Iskandar Malaysia. I would foresee the oversupply in this area, as there is no organic growth on the population |
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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ May 6 2015, 07:54 PM) Only pilot and flight attendants frequently go to KLIA? Travelling once a month or once in two months is more than troublesome for those who stay in rawang. High income people do travel a lot. Senior management travel a lot too, for meeting etc. Don't underestimate the importance of distance between rawang and KLIA. |
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QUOTE(Xenopher @ May 7 2015, 11:22 AM) Not really low anymore nowadays. Emerald area property is selling at close to RM400 per square feet now. And like most said road condition is very bad there especially Jalan Batu Arang, which is the main road to go in/out emerald. QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 7 2015, 11:26 AM) Do your own due diligent. Most of the time you do not need other to acknowledge your investment. Yes. I have opportunity to invest in one more unit by this/next year. Definitely will do DD.Some times ago, many ppl invest in Mont Kiara as majority of ppl doing it and it is regard as safer bet, and now apparently it is over supply now in MK, friends take 6-12 months to rent out his unit. Now many focus in the south of KLV, Cbyerjaya or Sepang, or Dengkil, or even in the South of Peninsular, i.e. Iskandar Malaysia. I would foresee the oversupply in this area, as there is no organic growth on the population |
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QUOTE(Yamma @ May 7 2015, 11:42 AM) Only pilot and flight attendants frequently go to KLIA? Travelling once a month or once in two months is more than troublesome for those who stay in rawang. Many big boss in Rawang travel/meet clients a lot also, usually they use Subang Airport..less than 30mins can arrive..KK, Kuching, Penang, JB, Singapore etc...High income people do travel a lot. Senior management travel a lot too, for meeting etc. Don't underestimate the importance of distance between rawang and KLIA. This post has been edited by 37 Exposures: May 7 2015, 12:08 PM |
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Since most people comment rawang not good...so semenyih good or not?
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 6 2015, 07:54 PM) between toll to BCH, there is lamp post. not many and some are dim. Yes, i agreed township is badly plan. thanks to Tanco lo. 20 years ago it was a hype and promises by who else... "Tanco" and "B-end" lo. But thing change after 2008 where "pee-kay-are" took over. but still ... i think progress is slow. btw, few developers need to chip in money for Jln Bt Arang upgrade (toll to BTP junction). that's why it's a bit slow. do give me a buzz if you drop by AEON. we can go yam cha. Will buzz u when im around This post has been edited by Babizz: May 7 2015, 02:10 PM |
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QUOTE(keponggangster @ May 6 2015, 04:53 PM) some serious infra is missing in Rawang, it is the linkage to sungai buloh and the whole corridor down to KL is NOT well developed. In terms of investing style, you BUY growth property/stock at higher price and sell higher. Value investors wud BUY undervalued property/stock and aim for future rerating catalysts...in this case, the MISSING INFRA... QUOTE(alextanck84 @ May 7 2015, 01:00 PM) developer willing to invest on the infrastructure that is "missing in rawang" as according to the quote above for semenyih...SPS and EW both creating link to lekas (rinching/beranang)....investing in landscapes and etc anyway rawang got aeon/komuter but semenyih belum ada lagi... as development goes towards south for now semenyih is be better than rawang, as HSR also from central to southern... the focus is southern.... sure rawang also will boom when the focus change to rawang but some side of rawang near tesco, have latar should have good connectivity though This post has been edited by ANNIYAN_X: May 7 2015, 03:02 PM |
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QUOTE(ANNIYAN_X @ May 7 2015, 02:59 PM) developer willing to invest on the infrastructure that is "missing in rawang" as according to the quote above for semenyih... Why drag Semenyih into the discussion?SPS and EW both creating link to lekas (rinching/beranang)....investing in landscapes and etc anyway rawang got aeon/komuter but semenyih belum ada lagi... as development goes towards south for now semenyih is be better than rawang, as HSR also from central to southern... the focus is southern.... sure rawang also will boom when the focus change to rawang but some side of rawang near tesco, have latar should have good connectivity though |
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Rawang is kind of a raw diamond lah .. once the commercial development behind jusco are ready, that should give it another boost to the area.. if the area is already developed, the prices of landed there will be much higher so if can see far far in the future, better hoot now if it meets your buying criteria.. if cannot see, then susah a bit ... |
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Rawang is a place where one still can get a terrace sub 500k. Accessible in many ways.
Depending on one needs, it will be a good investment or own stays. However it lacked larger parcel of land for developer to do mega township like eco majestic where nowadays we look for gated guarded security. At most 100 acres , 200 acres land selling at premium, developer can't afford to do dev like the south bangi, semenyih types. So the attraction is far less than other area at the moment |
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QUOTE(leithwalk @ May 7 2015, 04:33 PM) Rawang is a place where one still can get a terrace sub 500k. Accessible in many ways. N there are so may good food in older part of Rawang.Depending on one needs, it will be a good investment or own stays. However it lacked larger parcel of land for developer to do mega township like eco majestic where nowadays we look for gated guarded security. At most 100 acres , 200 acres land selling at premium, developer can't afford to do dev like the south bangi, semenyih types. So the attraction is far less than other area at the moment |
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QUOTE(Yamma @ May 7 2015, 11:42 AM) Only pilot and flight attendants frequently go to KLIA? Travelling once a month or once in two months is more than troublesome for those who stay in rawang. I travel to Sg once or twice monthly, i still choose to stay in Rawang.High income people do travel a lot. Senior management travel a lot too, for meeting etc. Don't underestimate the importance of distance between rawang and KLIA. The travelling time compare to other places is negligible, to find out just google or waze. There are other more important factors to consider other than the distance to KLIA. |
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QUOTE(Babizz @ May 7 2015, 02:08 PM) Btw, whr do u dine in rawang ah? hmm.... i usually dine at home. no money ma... eat at home is cheaper than eating outside. Mall food ok what. Will buzz u when im around QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 7 2015, 11:29 AM) |
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QUOTE(Yamma @ May 7 2015, 11:42 AM) Only pilot and flight attendants frequently go to KLIA? Travelling once a month or once in two months is more than troublesome for those who stay in rawang. mid income ppl also travel. I also travel. I don't see a big issue to get to KLIA. I'm not travelling from Ipoh to KLIA anyway. I also work in Cyberjaya for 3 years. I don't see a big issue travelling everyday. If i was given a job in Cyberjaya now, i would take it up regardless of my staying. Perhaps you dislike travel and prefer to be near to KLIA. that's individual preference. When i travel up north to Ipoh / Pg, i save up 45 mins compare to ppl living nearby to KLIA. again... not everyone travel to ipoh. High income people do travel a lot. Senior management travel a lot too, for meeting etc. Don't underestimate the importance of distance between rawang and KLIA. QUOTE(alextanck84 @ May 7 2015, 01:00 PM) semenyih very good. South ma.QUOTE(New Klang @ May 7 2015, 03:07 PM) cos in terms of distance to KLCC (City Center), semenyih is quite similar to Rawang. Rawang is approximately 38KM point to point. Semenyih shud be similar distance. If not, by extra 2 or 3 km. therefore, comparing apple to apple for those who like to compare. just my 2 cents. |
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QUOTE(Yamma @ May 7 2015, 11:42 AM) Only pilot and flight attendants frequently go to KLIA? Travelling once a month or once in two months is more than troublesome for those who stay in rawang. i have to agree on this.. u need at least 1 hour to travel between rawang and KLIA, assuming no traffic jam.High income people do travel a lot. Senior management travel a lot too, for meeting etc. Don't underestimate the importance of distance between rawang and KLIA. imagine if u need to catch early flight e.g. 8am. u need to leave rawang at 5am! and imagine if u need to travel every month.. |
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i didn't know the distance to Airport also can become a debate.
i depart from Kepong to KLIA also almost 1 hour, so what's the problem? Jam during peak hour happens everywhere in developed town. I used to stayed in USJ2 Subang Jaya next to Kesas which is linked to highway towards KLIA. no jam 30 minutes, peak hour i can stuck in Subang alone for 30 mins. So subang also not good by this logic? This post has been edited by bearbear: May 8 2015, 03:37 PM |
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If need to catch flights frequently of course u buy near Klia. No point looking into areas like rawang. Dengkil, bangi still offers reasonable priced properties.
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QUOTE(yoong81 @ May 8 2015, 03:30 PM) i have to agree on this.. u need at least 1 hour to travel between rawang and KLIA, assuming no traffic jam. If u are a frequent traveler. Then Rawang is not livable.imagine if u need to catch early flight e.g. 8am. u need to leave rawang at 5am! and imagine if u need to travel every month.. Penang is an international airport. Many ppl traveling from Kedah, Seberang Prai, even Taiping to bayan Lepas airport, it's also take more than hour on driving. Stay near to the airport is considered an extra bonus. In many countries. 1 hour away from airport is considered normal. |
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QUOTE(leithwalk @ May 8 2015, 03:38 PM) If need to catch flights frequently of course u buy near Klia. No point looking into areas like rawang. Dengkil, bangi still offers reasonable priced properties. Exactly, if you work in airport or fly so frequently you should buy near it. Rawang is for those who commute to kl yet live in affordable living environment I have some studio in Nilai if anyone is interested. |
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 8 2015, 03:44 PM) Exactly, if you work in airport or fly so frequently you should buy near it. Perhaps Nilai is not near enough. Being picking bones from the eggs, one may want to live as close as walking distance to airport check in counter.I have some studio in Nilai if anyone is interested. |
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 8 2015, 03:44 PM) Exactly, if you work in airport or fly so frequently you should buy near it. I have the so called guaranteed returns 1 storey terrace in nilai bought years ago. The developer guaranteed 2 years n tats it the balance 6 years gone!!! I have zero income on tat property for 10 years until few yrs back finally some colleges set up n start renting.....I have some studio in Nilai if anyone is interested. I'm scared of nilai for a long while.. |
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I travel overseas min once a week and sometimes 2 -3 times a week.
Staying in cyber, 15 mins to KLIA via ERL, clean, fast, cheap (Rm6.20) and reliable to / from airport. no traffic jam, no illegal parking, low crime, fresh air, kampong feeling very nice! If I have to go into office at KLCC, 40 mins drive via MEX during peak or 25 mins off peak. QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 8 2015, 09:57 AM) mid income ppl also travel. I also travel. I don't see a big issue to get to KLIA. I'm not travelling from Ipoh to KLIA anyway. I also work in Cyberjaya for 3 years. I don't see a big issue travelling everyday. If i was given a job in Cyberjaya now, i would take it up regardless of my staying. Perhaps you dislike travel and prefer to be near to KLIA. that's individual preference. When i travel up north to Ipoh / Pg, i save up 45 mins compare to ppl living nearby to KLIA. again... not everyone travel to ipoh. semenyih very good. South ma. cos in terms of distance to KLCC (City Center), semenyih is quite similar to Rawang. Rawang is approximately 38KM point to point. Semenyih shud be similar distance. If not, by extra 2 or 3 km. therefore, comparing apple to apple for those who like to compare. just my 2 cents. |
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Should we open another thread - Kajang/Semenyih/Bangi/Nilai/Cyberjaya still a good place to invest? Some say not good, some say good?
Good place to invest maybe not a good place to stay, many things have to consider when comes to property, location, pricing, surrounding, connectivity, landscaping, developer, G&G or F&G, International/Chinese school, FengShui, infrastructure, Job opportunities... Nothing is perfect, try don't be so picky sometime This post has been edited by 37 Exposures: May 8 2015, 05:52 PM |
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Any news from Daland TWO project near AEON?
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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ May 8 2015, 05:38 PM) Should we open another thread - Kajang/Semenyih/Bangi/Nilai/Cyberjaya still a good place to invest? Some say not good, some say good? Agree. We shall focus on Rawang Good place to invest maybe not a good place to stay, many things have to consider when comes to property, location, pricing, surrounding, connectivity, landscaping, developer, G&G or F&G, International/Chinese school, FengShui, infrastructure, Job opportunities... Nothing is perfect, try don't be so picky sometime I can sense that Cyberjaya promoter check in this thread already. |
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QUOTE(Soros007 @ May 8 2015, 04:14 PM) I travel overseas min once a week and sometimes 2 -3 times a week. What if u need to travel daily to Bandar Utama, Sungai Buloh or Selayang, will it still be fast, cheap & no traffic jam?Staying in cyber, 15 mins to KLIA via ERL, clean, fast, cheap (Rm6.20) and reliable to / from airport. no traffic jam, no illegal parking, low crime, fresh air, kampong feeling very nice! If I have to go into office at KLCC, 40 mins drive via MEX during peak or 25 mins off peak. |
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 8 2015, 06:41 PM) QUOTE(37 Exposures @ May 8 2015, 06:49 PM) Always focus.. Too focus.. Day and night.. I am wondering how is Coalfields doing now. Supposedly nearer to KV than Rawang.Maybe people will ask got such place or not oo? Got! Got such place dun have such price only! |
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 8 2015, 08:40 PM) No, at least 10km further than Rawang, surrounding/amenities at least 5yrs behind Rawang..here got post office, bank, few Mc D KFC PizzaHut, hypermarket Aeon Tesco Giant, TGV, many Kopitiam/Mamak, few chinese school, KPJ Hospital, KTM Station..upcoming 2 international school, commercial centre Anggun City..This post has been edited by 37 Exposures: May 8 2015, 08:55 PM |
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QUOTE(Soros007 @ May 8 2015, 04:14 PM) I travel overseas min once a week and sometimes 2 -3 times a week. Agreed.hahah..me also travel like that,working at puchong travel with ERL to KLIA..no need 1 hour just for drive..Staying in cyber, 15 mins to KLIA via ERL, clean, fast, cheap (Rm6.20) and reliable to / from airport. no traffic jam, no illegal parking, low crime, fresh air, kampong feeling very nice! If I have to go into office at KLCC, 40 mins drive via MEX during peak or 25 mins off peak. Btw rawang not cheap also la da price.the lack of infra make the place feel cheap.. |
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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ May 8 2015, 08:48 PM) No, at least 10km further than Rawang, surrounding/amenities at least 5yrs behind Rawang..here got post office, bank, few Mc D KFC PizzaHut, hypermarket Aeon Tesco Giant, TGV, many Kopitiam/Mamak, few chinese school, KPJ Hospital, KTM Station..upcoming 2 international school, commercial centre Anggun City.. Wow! Got famous BKT and other local traditional delicacies? I tried that Ah Cheng fish noodle. |
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I just realise that the newly completed building on the left hand side after the toll flyover is a Toyota showroom! This Japanese auto maker must be a nut to build such a huge showroom in an isolated place like Rawang. I heard another Japanese auto maker joining this nutty band wagon, is Honda, they are building a 4S Center in Anggun!
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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ May 8 2015, 08:48 PM) No, at least 10km further than Rawang, surrounding/amenities at least 5yrs behind Rawang..here got post office, bank, few Mc D KFC PizzaHut, hypermarket Aeon Tesco Giant, TGV, many Kopitiam/Mamak, few chinese school, KPJ Hospital, KTM Station..upcoming 2 international school, commercial centre Anggun City.. got 2 international school? i only know tenby... what is da name of the other one and where is it? |
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QUOTE(masbruno @ May 8 2015, 10:04 PM) I just realise that the newly completed building on the left hand side after the toll flyover is a Toyota showroom! This Japanese auto maker must be a nut to build such a huge showroom in an isolated place like Rawang. I heard another Japanese auto maker joining this nutty band wagon, is Honda, they are building a 4S Center in Anggun! nuts?I think they are seeing something some of us are not seeing..surely for them to invest in a multimillion building they would have done their DD..thoroughly, I may add..these are after all Japanese not poton .. This definitely augurs well for Rawang .. |
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Siberjaya kaki will only said siberjaya the best. For me I will just ignore wat ever their comment. For me if siberjaya really is a success idea it shall become a town which hav at least 50k population staying in and not just only seeing population on day time only. At night ah... really a good place for isolate ur self with human. Comparing putrajaya will be much better at least it is balance with 60k population staying. Without putrajaya ah siberjaya is nothing. Tot those infra is built for siberjaya? It built for putrajaya pls. Apa silicon valley slowly those it company gonna move out one by one when the incentive by gov has finish. Sine 1996 - now still using slogan MSC silicon valley. Wat I see only group of goreng kaki developer playing their own game in siberjaya. Judge ur self.
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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ May 8 2015, 10:36 PM) Siberjaya kaki will only said siberjaya the best. For me I will just ignore wat ever their comment. For me if siberjaya really is a success idea it shall become a town which hav at least 50k population staying in and not just only seeing population on day time only. At night ah... really a good place for isolate ur self with human. Comparing putrajaya will be much better at least it is balance with 60k population staying. Without putrajaya ah siberjaya is nothing. Tot those infra is built for siberjaya? It built for putrajaya pls. Apa silicon valley slowly those it company gonna move out one by one when the incentive by gov has finish. Sine 1996 - now still using slogan MSC silicon valley. Wat I see only group of goreng kaki developer playing their own game in siberjaya. Judge ur self. well said. Putrajaya got night time population of 60K????? true or not?????? last I hear only 20k.....few years back......and Putrajaya doesn't have that many new properties launched also. Ericsson and Shell already relocated after the tax incenties lapsed.... |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 9 2015, 03:35 PM) well said. if not mistake early news reported that only JPM in putrajaya already got staff 50k++ lol. How about others Kementerian, Jabatan & Agency.Putrajaya got night time population of 60K????? true or not?????? last I hear only 20k.....few years back......and Putrajaya doesn't have that many new properties launched also. Ericsson and Shell already relocated after the tax incenties lapsed.... For more solid evident that is total of 22136 unit f kuarters is putrajaya & all are fully occupy. Pls do consider other private own housing in Putrajaya. Putrajaya night time pupolation u may do a simple estimation. Do believe that our Malay frenz use to hav min 3 kids oh. This post has been edited by godlikexioo: May 9 2015, 03:58 PM |
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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ May 9 2015, 03:56 PM) if not mistake early news reported that only JPM in putrajaya already got staff 50k++ lol. How about others Kementerian, Jabatan & Agency. A friend of mine who work in Putrajaya has a govt quarter, but he and his family doesn't stay there. He only use the quarter to rest or mandi during lunch hour. After work, he will travel back to Selayang. This is partly because his parent is in Selayang and he also add that it is boring staying in Putrajaya.For more solid evident that is total of 22136 unit f kuarters is putrajaya & all are fully occupy. Pls do consider other private own housing in Putrajaya. Putrajaya night time pupolation u may do a simple estimation. Do believe that our Malay frenz use to hav min 3 kids oh. |
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May 9 2015, 04:42 PM
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Ya.. U will probably have the whole town for yourself during Raya....
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QUOTE(masbruno @ May 9 2015, 04:37 PM) A friend of mine who work in Putrajaya has a govt quarter, but he and his family doesn't stay there. He only use the quarter to rest or mandi during lunch hour. After work, he will travel back to Selayang. This is partly because his parent is in Selayang and he also add that it is boring staying in Putrajaya. Than I also got alot of workmates work in kl but stay in putrajaya. |
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Nice diversion away from Rawang.
May I ask how many years is the tax incentive in Siberjeya? What are the incentives? Like that Siberjeya no longer IT town? |
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Rawang is a good place where for the same price u get landed terrace instead of 800sf town aprt.
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QUOTE(yoong81 @ May 8 2015, 03:30 PM) i have to agree on this.. u need at least 1 hour to travel between rawang and KLIA, assuming no traffic jam. yes. you are right. 2 hours before Departure to reach airport. If u stay in PJ, you will also need to leave around 5.30am. unless u stay in cyber where you leave 5.45am. imagine if u need to catch early flight e.g. 8am. u need to leave rawang at 5am! and imagine if u need to travel every month.. QUOTE(leithwalk @ May 8 2015, 03:38 PM) If need to catch flights frequently of course u buy near Klia. No point looking into areas like rawang. Dengkil, bangi still offers reasonable priced properties. even those travel frequent also doesn't really choose dengkil or bangi. mostly will choose near to ERL which is cyber/putrajaya, salak tinggi, KL Sentral vicinity.Rawang is for those who commute to kl yet live in affordable living environment QUOTE(Soros007 @ May 8 2015, 04:14 PM) I travel overseas min once a week and sometimes 2 -3 times a week. yup. i also park in Putrajaya Sentral. ERL is convenient. But issue is frequency. once missed the train, need to wait for another half hour. i kena 1 time before. haha. luckily i'd checked in and can straight walk in boarding.Staying in cyber, 15 mins to KLIA via ERL, clean, fast, cheap (Rm6.20) and reliable to / from airport. no traffic jam, no illegal parking, low crime, fresh air, kampong feeling very nice! If I have to go into office at KLCC, 40 mins drive via MEX during peak or 25 mins off peak. QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ May 8 2015, 06:03 PM) i don't think that is happening. The Company is too small to engage such huge project. |
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 9 2015, 10:46 PM) Nice diversion away from Rawang. MSC status company need to operate their office in MSC Certified area. Cyber is one of the place. If the company want to occupy larger corporate building or space, they can choose cyber. If no mistake, it's 5 years tax free. I'm not sure whether that still the same or not. Other incentives in Cyber, i'm not sure. but the ready fiber optic channel is available for a corporate to tap in for faster internet connectivity. May I ask how many years is the tax incentive in Siberjeya? What are the incentives? Like that Siberjeya no longer IT town? the issue with this MSC is, there are many place or building is certified MSC now. MSC company doesn't need to move to cyber. 2 area i know is, Bangsar South and i-City SA is certified as MSC area. So, those MSC company can run their business without relocating to Cyber. I still think Cyber has potential is MSC hype don't die-off. the problem i have with cyber is parking. I always have to park at road side when i attend to my customer. |
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 11 2015, 07:49 AM) http://www.sinarharian.com.my/bisnes/da-la...ugerah-1.376556they just got an award for that development... I guess it's still going on, but at a rather slow pace |
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QUOTE(masbruno @ May 8 2015, 10:04 PM) I just realise that the newly completed building on the left hand side after the toll flyover is a Toyota showroom! This Japanese auto maker must be a nut to build such a huge showroom in an isolated place like Rawang. I heard another Japanese auto maker joining this nutty band wagon, is Honda, they are building a 4S Center in Anggun! Initially i thought it was some factory. I was told that they have bought that piece of land years ago. Perhaps seeing that Rawang will grow few years back.It is under UMW Toyotsu, in which UMW Toyota has 30% share. |
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QUOTE(asil66 @ May 11 2015, 11:52 AM) http://www.sinarharian.com.my/bisnes/da-la...ugerah-1.376556 Can hardly find any updates related to this project. they just got an award for that development... I guess it's still going on, but at a rather slow pace Strange enough, this news was only covered by Sinar Harian Btw i noticed that this project under the ETP website > Tourism > Highlights http://etp.pemandu.gov.my/Tourism-@-Touris...ted_Resort.aspx |
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 11 2015, 03:02 PM) Initially i thought it was some factory. I was told that they have bought that piece of land years ago. Perhaps seeing that Rawang will grow few years back. Same here, initially i also thought they were building some factory.It is under UMW Toyotsu, in which UMW Toyota has 30% share. Got news that Volkswagen might build a showroom here too. |
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some banks cannot approve loan in rawang specifically . There are reasons behind it. not sure why
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QUOTE(propertysense @ May 13 2015, 11:48 AM) This is 1st time I heard can't get loan bcos of rawang.Check it , is it bcos of developer issue or ??? Antarabangsa can't get loan we know. Rawang no loan? Impossible |
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QUOTE(leithwalk @ May 13 2015, 12:40 PM) This is 1st time I heard can't get loan bcos of rawang. Nothing is impossible.Check it , is it bcos of developer issue or ??? Antarabangsa can't get loan we know. Rawang no loan? Impossible Bank managers are like us, a mixed lot. Some are optimistic and some are wary. |
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 13 2015, 01:29 PM) Nothing is impossible. I dun believe either..maybe you say bukit beruntung, talam projects, cannot get loans that is for sure..Bank managers are like us, a mixed lot. Some are optimistic and some are wary. Rawang is fine .. anyway, once anggun commie is up, this will give the place another boost..in a few years' time so is this now the time to get in there or wait for commies to be up and running, baru want to find a place ? |
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ May 13 2015, 02:59 PM) I dun believe either..maybe you say bukit beruntung, talam projects, cannot get loans that is for sure.. i think rawang outlook is less brighter than the other southern district such as Klang and Kajang. Whereby it is much nearer to the port and Rawang is fine .. anyway, once anggun commie is up, this will give the place another boost..in a few years' time so is this now the time to get in there or wait for commies to be up and running, baru want to find a place ? air Port as well. Hence development goes to the south. Unlike other perimeter of klang valley, rawang's development skip a giant portion of forest and mountain land, hence there is no proper continuity from KL, kepong and selayang area. Many older place like rawang is actually a dysfunctional ghetto unlike places like ghetto kepong and jinjang, the business there is functional. As a whole rawang is as well very big and the development are hardly centralised. |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 14 2015, 07:58 AM) i think rawang outlook is less brighter than the other southern district such as Klang and Kajang. Whereby it is much nearer to the port and dysfunctional ghetto?? wahliao wei..air Port as well. Hence development goes to the south. Unlike other perimeter of klang valley, rawang's development skip a giant portion of forest and mountain land, hence there is no proper continuity from KL, kepong and selayang area. Many older place like rawang is actually a dysfunctional ghetto unlike places like ghetto kepong and jinjang, the business there is functional. As a whole rawang is as well very big and the development are hardly centralised. strong words indeed.. dpc is in kepong so that is a ghetto? ok first define ghetto so we are all on the same page leh.. |
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ May 14 2015, 09:02 AM) dysfunctional ghetto?? wahliao wei.. Ghetto to me means poorest part of the city. Whereby most of the unwanted elements resides. strong words indeed.. dpc is in kepong so that is a ghetto? ok first define ghetto so we are all on the same page leh.. if u see those old houses at BTP , it seems many of the notorious ppl, foreigner stay there. Basically, it feels like a crime hub. DPC exceptional lor, people dun normally consider DPC as kepong. DPC oso dun call themselves from kepong oso hahaha..... |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 14 2015, 08:10 AM) Ghetto to me means poorest part of the city. Whereby most of the unwanted elements resides. have you ever step foot in Emerald West ? if u see those old houses at BTP , it seems many of the notorious ppl, foreigner stay there. Basically, it feels like a crime hub. DPC exceptional lor, people dun normally consider DPC as kepong. DPC oso dun call themselves from kepong oso hahaha..... any place or city for that matter which may have a so called ghetto in one or two of its "corners" is really not unusual - for eg. new York city or LA for that matter ..does that make the entire city unlivable since it has ghettos? Rawang is NOT a ghetto..maybe BTP in Rawang is a ghetto (in your definition) - see the difference? |
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ May 14 2015, 08:31 AM) have you ever step foot in Emerald West ? He (or she) just a keyboard hero, visited small part of Rawang and generalize it. Perhaps this is the only ghetto in the world comes with international school, shopping malls and branded car showrooms.any place or city for that matter which may have a so called ghetto in one or two of its "corners" is really not unusual - for eg. new York city or LA for that matter ..does that make the entire city unlivable since it has ghettos? Rawang is NOT a ghetto..maybe BTP in Rawang is a ghetto (in your definition) - see the difference? |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 14 2015, 08:10 AM) Ghetto to me means poorest part of the city. Whereby most of the unwanted elements resides. Ghettos?? have you seen a real ghettos in Mumbai, Rio De janeiro, Jakarta.if u see those old houses at BTP , it seems many of the notorious ppl, foreigner stay there. Basically, it feels like a crime hub. DPC exceptional lor, people dun normally consider DPC as kepong. DPC oso dun call themselves from kepong oso hahaha..... If you have not, dont simply comment Ghettos la . Thank good ness you are not from towncouncils i hope... |
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ May 14 2015, 09:31 AM) have you ever step foot in Emerald West ? dude as long i feel that rawang is a overall a rundown dysfunctional place and labelled it a ghetto is good enough any place or city for that matter which may have a so called ghetto in one or two of its "corners" is really not unusual - for eg. new York city or LA for that matter ..does that make the entire city unlivable since it has ghettos? Rawang is NOT a ghetto..maybe BTP in Rawang is a ghetto (in your definition) - see the difference? and i believe many people hold such sentiments, it doesn't matter what and whose accurate definition. if the buyer think it is a rundown place, it doesn't matter what the investor think it is. DIfference between rawang and NYC is NYC have small part of it as run down. Rawang most of the place is run down. I have also stepped foot into desa coalfield and it is roughly similar. |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 14 2015, 07:58 AM) i think rawang outlook is less brighter than the other southern district such as Klang and Kajang. Whereby it is much nearer to the port and At the moment, there is no doubt that development at the south seemed to be better than the north, due to the higher numbers of new developments, higher population and also KL-SG HSR will be there. Even that, "better" is a subjective term as everybody has their own criterias in evaluating something. Perhaps you are a frequent traveler and thus being near to airport and port is important for you. From investment point of view, being near public transportation hub can be an advantage but it is not the sole consideration. I noticed that in this forum, many people hold on to the idea that good investment properties have to be near airport. I wonder how many people really look at the distance between airport and home when deciding want to stay in that area or not, or is there other more important factors that they will consider? If being near to airport is equivalent to good property investment potential, then why has Cyberjaya taken so long to boom? Even till now, to me, it still look like a deserted town at night. Then you make a comparison with Kota Damansara. That place is far from airport / port and has no lrt or mrt at the time when it boomed. air Port as well. Hence development goes to the south. Unlike other perimeter of klang valley, rawang's development skip a giant portion of forest and mountain land, hence there is no proper continuity from KL, kepong and selayang area. Many older place like rawang is actually a dysfunctional ghetto unlike places like ghetto kepong and jinjang, the business there is functional. As a whole rawang is as well very big and the development are hardly centralised. Personally, I believe every area has its own development potential, depending on various factors. If you are lazy to do your homework, the easier way to gauge the potential of the area is to look at who is going in. If you see many reputable companies going in there, you can more or less know that there are something brewing in the area cos big companies most of the time do due diligence before putting in their money. They don't go into an area by just listening to speculators cos they need to put in a lot of money as capital outlay and need to be answerable to their shareholders. |
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ May 14 2015, 08:31 AM) have you ever step foot in Emerald West ? I ask you back lor then, have your venture to the deepest part of rawang perdana? any place or city for that matter which may have a so called ghetto in one or two of its "corners" is really not unusual - for eg. new York city or LA for that matter ..does that make the entire city unlivable since it has ghettos? Rawang is NOT a ghetto..maybe BTP in Rawang is a ghetto (in your definition) - see the difference? Even in NYC, there used to be a place known as the hell's kitchen |
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Rawang is not a forsaken place.
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QUOTE(asil66 @ May 14 2015, 12:31 PM) At the moment, there is no doubt that development at the south seemed to be better than the north, due to the higher numbers of new developments, higher population and also KL-SG HSR will be there. Even that, "better" is a subjective term as everybody has their own criterias in evaluating something. Perhaps you are a frequent traveler and thus being near to airport and port is important for you. From investment point of view, being near public transportation hub can be an advantage but it is not the sole consideration. I noticed that in this forum, many people hold on to the idea that good investment properties have to be near airport. I wonder how many people really look at the distance between airport and home when deciding want to stay in that area or not, or is there other more important factors that they will consider? If being near to airport is equivalent to good property investment potential, then why has Cyberjaya taken so long to boom? Even till now, to me, it still look like a deserted town at night. Then you make a comparison with Kota Damansara. That place is far from airport / port and has no lrt or mrt at the time when it boomed. I totally agree to what you say.Personally, I believe every area has its own development potential, depending on various factors. If you are lazy to do your homework, the easier way to gauge the potential of the area is to look at who is going in. If you see many reputable companies going in there, you can more or less know that there are something brewing in the area cos big companies most of the time do due diligence before putting in their money. They don't go into an area by just listening to speculators cos they need to put in a lot of money as capital outlay and need to be answerable to their shareholders. The airport or seaport is important not because I/we are travelers but the distance to it is an important factor to stimulate economy as businesses are very much dwells on good logistics. Hence Klang Valley, Penang and Johor somewhat does well, because of it's port. Whether or not a place deserved to be invested are largely due to that area being functional in it's economy. Sadly in cyberjaya, prices has move beyond affordability of many, hence the place becomes deserted before it becomes functional as township are largely dependent on population density. This seems to be happening to rawang and semenyih and certain other places now which is worrisome as well. Prices does not correlate with it's performance. |
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QUOTE(propertysense @ May 13 2015, 11:48 AM) Depending on Bank and Address. THat is 5 or 6 years ago. Foreign bank except HSBC doesn't cater loan in rawang. HSBC can cater because they have a branch in Sg. Choh, Rawang.QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ May 14 2015, 11:08 AM) Good. But no land clearing or whatsoever leh. Even PLUS highway also didn't block the lane to construct the Skybridge. |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 14 2015, 11:55 AM) I totally agree to what you say. True. Our biggest problem is that the economy gap is becoming wider. The rich become richer and are able to keep pushing the price up whereas the poor are becoming poorer as they are stretched by the rising costs. Prices has gone up so much but income level remained stagnant. The airport or seaport is important not because I/we are travelers but the distance to it is an important factor to stimulate economy as businesses are very much dwells on good logistics. Hence Klang Valley, Penang and Johor somewhat does well, because of it's port. Whether or not a place deserved to be invested are largely due to that area being functional in it's economy. Sadly in cyberjaya, prices has move beyond affordability of many, hence the place becomes deserted before it becomes functional as township are largely dependent on population density. This seems to be happening to rawang and semenyih and certain other places now which is worrisome as well. Prices does not correlate with it's performance. While there are a lot of demand for new properties, the issue of affordability is a big threat as developers keep building properties that do not meet the demands in the market. The question to ask ourselves is whether this is sustainable and how deep are investors' pockets to maintain the high properties prices before the market correct itself? This post has been edited by asil66: May 14 2015, 01:00 PM |
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 14 2015, 12:47 PM) Depending on Bank and Address. THat is 5 or 6 years ago. Foreign bank except HSBC doesn't cater loan in rawang. HSBC can cater because they have a branch in Sg. Choh, Rawang. land ady clear from google mapGood. But no land clearing or whatsoever leh. Even PLUS highway also didn't block the lane to construct the Skybridge. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 14 2015, 12:47 PM) Depending on Bank and Address. THat is 5 or 6 years ago. Foreign bank except HSBC doesn't cater loan in rawang. HSBC can cater because they have a branch in Sg. Choh, Rawang. If you are on your way to Ipoh from KL, pay attention to the right side of the highway after the rawang selatan toll. There's a big piece of land cleared and a "The TWO" signboard there.Good. But no land clearing or whatsoever leh. Even PLUS highway also didn't block the lane to construct the Skybridge. |
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if you talk about older townships, like Klang, PJ (more towards okr), kajang, rawang and KL (typically jinjang)...there bound to have elements of ghettos in each and every satellite townships.....
the degree of ghettos vary, so as the perception. Ask how many of us dare to go inside tmn sentosa alone at night in Klang? As for Rawang, there are new rawang and old rawang. the new rawang is better with newer township planning. I haven't been to the old rawang for the past 30-40 years lioa.... This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: May 14 2015, 01:17 PM |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 14 2015, 07:58 AM) i think rawang outlook is less brighter than the other southern district such as Klang and Kajang. Whereby it is much nearer to the port and True, the geographic factor is already a hindrance for fast development compared to south. This is why many FDI is concentrating at south and pushing up the commercial activities. However, the land at KL south is getting scarce and new development are getting further and further. air Port as well. Hence development goes to the south. Unlike other perimeter of klang valley, rawang's development skip a giant portion of forest and mountain land, hence there is no proper continuity from KL, kepong and selayang area. Since Sg Buloh is already crowded (except limited Kwasa/MRT land development), the next nearby potential developments are Elmina. But Elmina's price is already sky high even before amenities are available - no supermarket, no shopping malls, no school, no F&G, no clubhouse. So the next option is Rawang since it already has complete amenities and has better access to PLUS/LATAR/Guthrie and the price is still within affordability. Regarding the non-centralized development, this is true. But how it will hinder a town from booming, I am not sure how bad it is. QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ May 14 2015, 11:08 AM) He said the phase 1 is still in planning stage. Gonna have to wait much longer... |
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Why living near an airport could be bad for your health
People living in areas with high levels of noise pollution from passing aeroplanes had a higher risk of heart disease and stroke. The risks of cardiovascular disease were greater for those living in neighbourhoods with highest noise levels and closest to the airport. Loud noise can lead to short-term increases in blood pressure, and sustained exposure could lead to more long-term risk. Night-time aircraft noise could be disturbing people’s sleep, which is another risk factor for heart disease. Lead had become the go-to additive to avgas because it produced a fuel with low anti-knock properties, increasing horsepower while adding only a smidgen of extra weight. Lead can damage the central nervous system, resulting in learning disabilities, stunted growth, and hearing loss, as well as cause anemia, may be at risk of kidney failure, cardiovascular disease, cancer, stroke, miscarriages, and premature births. http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/he...th-8867387.html This post has been edited by 37 Exposures: May 14 2015, 02:25 PM |
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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ May 14 2015, 02:22 PM) Why living near an airport could be bad for your health LOL.... People living in areas with high levels of noise pollution from passing aeroplanes had a higher risk of heart disease and stroke. The risks of cardiovascular disease were greater for those living in neighbourhoods with highest noise levels and closest to the airport. Loud noise can lead to short-term increases in blood pressure, and sustained exposure could lead to more long-term risk. Night-time aircraft noise could be disturbing people’s sleep, which is another risk factor for heart disease. Lead had become the go-to additive to avgas because it produced a fuel with low anti-knock properties, increasing horsepower while adding only a smidgen of extra weight. Lead can damage the central nervous system, resulting in learning disabilities, stunted growth, and hearing loss, as well as cause anemia, may be at risk of kidney failure, cardiovascular disease, cancer, stroke, miscarriages, and premature births. http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/he...th-8867387.html As with many things in life, human beings will do things which are not good for them even though they are aware of the risks and dangers... Some will even say, life is too short to worry bout so many things |
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QUOTE(asil66 @ May 14 2015, 02:31 PM) LOL.... In conclusion, good luck to those stay nearby airport.As with many things in life, human beings will do things which are not good for them even though they are aware of the risks and dangers... Some will even say, life is too short to worry bout so many things |
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ May 14 2015, 12:58 PM) great. QUOTE(asil66 @ May 14 2015, 01:03 PM) If you are on your way to Ipoh from KL, pay attention to the right side of the highway after the rawang selatan toll. There's a big piece of land cleared and a "The TWO" signboard there. that's the thing. Long time i didn't use highway travelling south bound. I use back road from Bestari Jaya. That's why. QUOTE(37 Exposures @ May 14 2015, 02:34 PM) On top of that, Flight Zone Hazard which HSE need to look into this for the event of inappropriate landing. I just came across this is HSE meeting this Morning. haha. |
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QUOTE(kekura @ May 14 2015, 02:16 PM) True, the geographic factor is already a hindrance for fast development compared to south. This is why many FDI is concentrating at south and pushing up the commercial activities. However, the land at KL south is getting scarce and new development are getting further and further. +1Since Sg Buloh is already crowded (except limited Kwasa/MRT land development), the next nearby potential developments are Elmina. But Elmina's price is already sky high even before amenities are available - no supermarket, no shopping malls, no school, no F&G, no clubhouse. So the next option is Rawang since it already has complete amenities and has better access to PLUS/LATAR/Guthrie and the price is still within affordability. Regarding the non-centralized development, this is true. But how it will hinder a town from booming, I am not sure how bad it is. He said the phase 1 is still in planning stage. Gonna have to wait much longer... |
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Rawang got potential to expand like other area...just a matter of short or long duration...
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QUOTE(alextanck84 @ May 14 2015, 05:16 PM) Rawang previously has a bad reputation that is taking time to shake it off -if not becoz of developments in emerald west,this place would have gone to the dogs..now with big developers like T&T buying tracts of land to develop, it is also a sign that positive changes are happening to this place..as with any areas out of KV , this will not happen overnight. hopefully for those living in rawang, this transformation will happen sooner than later.. |
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is just the matter of time.
but now most of the developers and authorities focusing in klang valley south part, not north |
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QUOTE(propertysense @ May 14 2015, 06:23 PM) is just the matter of time. If you are developer planning to launch two block of condo, 1 block facing sewage treatment plant , another facing KLCC so which one will you more focus and start selling it first?but now most of the developers and authorities focusing in klang valley south part, not north |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 14 2015, 11:02 AM) dude as long i feel that rawang is a overall a rundown dysfunctional place and labelled it a ghetto is good enough I also feel Klang & Kajang are a rundown place and by your standard, these places ought to be labelled as ghetto as well?and i believe many people hold such sentiments, it doesn't matter what and whose accurate definition. if the buyer think it is a rundown place, it doesn't matter what the investor think it is. DIfference between rawang and NYC is NYC have small part of it as run down. Rawang most of the place is run down. I have also stepped foot into desa coalfield and it is roughly similar. Anyway if all were to have the same mindset as you, the north should be deserted by now. But the opposite is happening here over the last few years, more & more people + development are coming to Rawang. Seems like this "dysfunctional ghetto" is attracting a lot of attention, including yours! Desa Coalfield development is small & kind of isolated, it lagged far behind what is happening in Rawang. Are you one of those who are heavily vested in the south who can't bear to hear some good news happening in the north? Development is Rawang may come late & slow, however it's better late & slow than never. Stay Calm & Watch Rawang Develop |
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QUOTE(masbruno @ May 15 2015, 01:49 AM) I also feel Klang & Kajang are a rundown place and by your standard, these places ought to be labelled as ghetto as well? It is already a fact that those invested in the south OVERALL such as Klang, Kajang Puchong have already gain better returns than Rawang. Statistics don't lie. I am juz another opinionated investor. Products in market, area are not build equal and there exist property which are not priced to be investor friendly. Anyway if all were to have the same mindset as you, the north should be deserted by now. But the opposite is happening here over the last few years, more & more people + development are coming to Rawang. Seems like this "dysfunctional ghetto" is attracting a lot of attention, including yours! Desa Coalfield development is small & kind of isolated, it lagged far behind what is happening in Rawang. Are you one of those who are heavily vested in the south who can't bear to hear some good news happening in the north? Development is Rawang may come late & slow, however it's better late & slow than never. Stay Calm & Watch Rawang Develop Isn't it our responsibility to at least for ourselves to filter our products which are not giving good returns with obvious fundamentals in an area. If you are willing to accept an investment to be late and slow in performance, then by then only our next generation can reap the fortune which i believe are not really our objectives. I have not actually hear many investors making good profit in rawang besides the emerald west which was properly priced few years back. After that then , everything is launching at a high price without proper fundamentals whereas the older units are practically ghetto-like. There are many places who has lots of development and 'hoo hah' with big developer names, but after few years these places end up to be empty but looks good only. The fact is that developer collectively play with our sentiments and then expose us to high risk. Perhaps you are the person who invested in Rawang and can't bear to hear any bad news about it? |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 15 2015, 08:13 AM) It is already a fact that those invested in the south OVERALL such as Klang, Kajang Puchong have already gain better returns than Rawang. Statistics don't lie. I am juz another opinionated investor. Products in market, area are not build equal and there exist property which are not priced to be investor friendly. show us your stats then..Isn't it our responsibility to at least for ourselves to filter our products which are not giving good returns with obvious fundamentals in an area. If you are willing to accept an investment to be late and slow in performance, then by then only our next generation can reap the fortune which i believe are not really our objectives. I have not actually hear many investors making good profit in rawang besides the emerald west which was properly priced few years back. After that then , everything is launching at a high price without proper fundamentals whereas the older units are practically ghetto-like. There are many places who has lots of development and 'hoo hah' with big developer names, but after few years these places end up to be empty but looks good only. The fact is that developer collectively play with our sentiments and then expose us to high risk. Perhaps you are the person who invested in Rawang and can't bear to hear any bad news about it? a very condescending attitude indeed - our responsibility you said? not really dude - we don't invest together so you do your thing lah .. our objectives?? seriously..? you have not heard investors making good profit in rawang so that means rawang is ghetto and high risk ke? maybe we should all report to you so your statement can be substantiated better hor? the newer properties in emerald west by guocoland for eg was only vped about 2 years ago -and in the meantime more commies and landed are coming online so I would just wait and see before passing judgement so fast.. |
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ May 15 2015, 09:11 AM) show us your stats then.. Fully agreed. a very condescending attitude indeed - our responsibility you said? not really dude - we don't invest together so you do your thing lah .. our objectives?? seriously..? you have not heard investors making good profit in rawang so that means rawang is ghetto and high risk ke? maybe we should all report to you so your statement can be substantiated better hor? the newer properties in emerald west by guocoland for eg was only vped about 2 years ago -and in the meantime more commies and landed are coming online so I would just wait and see before passing judgement so fast.. I wonder those who called it Ghettos , did they even step foot in NYC Brroklyn/ Queens? btw I have and to call Rawang Ghettos.... hahaha... I could only laughed at such comment |
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i can see the Northern Side is booming as well, maybe not on the same pace at South
1) Elmina + Denai Alam by Sime Darby 2) Kwasa Land - 2330 acres of land, Tier 2 developers : Naza TTDI, Paramount (http://kwasaland.com.my/) are bidding for the first residential development. 3) Sierramas/ Valencia - 4 projects on going by few developers including Tan & Tan, Mayland 4) Rawang new township by various developers - BRDB, Loh & Loh, Tan & Tan, MahSing, Low Yat, PKNS. |
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Actually how to determine good investment return? I'm curious? 10% increase of prop price per annum? or 100% of increase prop per annum? My experience say... take Cassis (EW) as e.g: 2 years ago selling price around 420K on average (correct me if i'm wrong) and current subsale which is newly VPed is around RM 550K. 130K for 2 years. not good?
let's take a bit further... M Residence 1. Back in 2012, purchase price is around RM 380K (on average). VPed in 2014 and transacted at RM 500K on average. 120K for 2 years. not good? Anggun 1: 2007 on average RM 420K purchase price. VPed in 2010 (if i remember correctly) and transact around RM 550K. 130K gain in 2 or 3 years time. Not good? Let's look at Shah Alam. Damai Residence: 2010 on average RM 400K purchase price. VPed in 2012 and transacted around RM 530K. 150K gain in 2 years time. good? it's actually more or less the same. Disclaimer: Above info is based on what i remember. Information might not be as accurate. it just for reference only. no right or wrong. |
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 15 2015, 11:15 AM) i can see the Northern Side is booming as well, maybe not on the same pace at South TA Global, Gamuda?1) Elmina + Denai Alam by Sime Darby 2) Kwasa Land - 2330 acres of land, Tier 2 developers : Naza TTDI, Paramount (http://kwasaland.com.my/) are bidding for the first residential development. 3) Sierramas/ Valencia - 4 projects on going by few developers including Tan & Tan, Mayland 4) Rawang new township by various developers - BRDB, Loh & Loh, Tan & Tan, MahSing, Low Yat, PKNS. This post has been edited by 37 Exposures: May 15 2015, 12:30 PM |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 15 2015, 08:13 AM) It is already a fact that those invested in the south OVERALL such as Klang, Kajang Puchong have already gain better returns than Rawang. Statistics don't lie. I am juz another opinionated investor. Products in market, area are not build equal and there exist property which are not priced to be investor friendly. Your fact only applicable during the property run, ie. pre 2012/ 2013 era. During that time everyone can easily make some handsome profit & claimed to be property sifus. The new part of Rawang only see some serious kick start around that time. Emerald East, Anggun 1 & 2 buyers did made a very good return if you care to check. Isn't it our responsibility to at least for ourselves to filter our products which are not giving good returns with obvious fundamentals in an area. If you are willing to accept an investment to be late and slow in performance, then by then only our next generation can reap the fortune which i believe are not really our objectives. I have not actually hear many investors making good profit in rawang besides the emerald west which was properly priced few years back. After that then , everything is launching at a high price without proper fundamentals whereas the older units are practically ghetto-like. There are many places who has lots of development and 'hoo hah' with big developer names, but after few years these places end up to be empty but looks good only. The fact is that developer collectively play with our sentiments and then expose us to high risk. Perhaps you are the person who invested in Rawang and can't bear to hear any bad news about it? Ya lah, of course you have to filter the products that you are going to invest, don't lah simply buy. I never say all property in Rawang is equally good. This also means not all are equally no potential. I do agree, if you are a short term investor, or to be exact, a flipper and expect to laugh all your way to the bank upon VP, Rawang is not your playground. This place has just start to develop, you'll need some holding power until all the amenities are in place, but no need lah to wait till the next generation Thanks for your concern, so far I mostly get good news! McD, Anggun City, golf course@EW turn into public park, completion of the new flyover at Rawang toll, expansion of PLUS highway to 4 lanes, 2 international schools, more reputable developer coming here like BRDB & Tan & Tan, nutty Japanese carmaker showrooms, new food court @BCH & decision by govt, not hearsay, to upgrade Jln. Batu Arang. The only bad news I get is things here are more expensive now due to that blardy GST! |
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 15 2015, 11:15 AM) i can see the Northern Side is booming as well, maybe not on the same pace at South Bos, you forget to mention the most important players in Rawang, ie. Hong Bee Land & Guocoland..1) Elmina + Denai Alam by Sime Darby 2) Kwasa Land - 2330 acres of land, Tier 2 developers : Naza TTDI, Paramount (http://kwasaland.com.my/) are bidding for the first residential development. 3) Sierramas/ Valencia - 4 projects on going by few developers including Tan & Tan, Mayland 4) Rawang new township by various developers - BRDB, Loh & Loh, Tan & Tan, MahSing, Low Yat, PKNS. |
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ May 15 2015, 10:11 AM) show us your stats then.. dude, i do not have to prove anything to you, if you want evidence you can do your own homework. a very condescending attitude indeed - our responsibility you said? not really dude - we don't invest together so you do your thing lah .. our objectives?? seriously..? you have not heard investors making good profit in rawang so that means rawang is ghetto and high risk ke? maybe we should all report to you so your statement can be substantiated better hor? the newer properties in emerald west by guocoland for eg was only vped about 2 years ago -and in the meantime more commies and landed are coming online so I would just wait and see before passing judgement so fast.. You can prove to me instead that rawang > than other options. If you want to report to me i don't mind. Investors objectives are very similar which are good profits at a reasonable time frame, normally 5 years. It is a known fact that rawang has always been a run-down and back water which is a factor which that affect profits. |
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QUOTE(masbruno @ May 15 2015, 12:55 PM) These 2 are known developers in Rawang for more than 10 years, need not mentioned them.Just to inform the proponents of narrow minded Ghetto-ism, about the new players coming into the Northern Part of KLV. |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 15 2015, 01:18 PM) dude, i do not have to prove anything to you, if you want evidence you can do your own homework. We used to be on the same boat. I have the same perception about Rawang too prior to 2012, run-down, back water & such. You can prove to me instead that rawang > than other options. If you want to report to me i don't mind. Investors objectives are very similar which are good profits at a reasonable time frame, normally 5 years. It is a known fact that rawang has always been a run-down and back water which is a factor which that affect profits. After my own home-styled due-d, i've decided it's worth investing. Rawang may not be better than other options but can be equally good option. 5 years is fair, but with the current uncertainties in our flimsy economy & ongoing political bickering. No one can be 100% sure what will happen down the road. So holding power will come in play should the storm hit, regardless of where we invest. So peace bro, you never know one day you might buy Rawang properties from me or vice-versa lah, on your southern properties |
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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ May 15 2015, 01:18 PM) dude, i do not have to prove anything to you, if you want evidence you can do your own homework. adui..be reasonable lah..you are the one that said that the stats prove this and that..so am just asking you show us the statistics that you You can prove to me instead that rawang > than other options. If you want to report to me i don't mind. Investors objectives are very similar which are good profits at a reasonable time frame, normally 5 years. It is a known fact that rawang has always been a run-down and back water which is a factor which that affect profits. so cleverly quoted to try to convince us silly buggers who are under an illusion that rawang is an investable location which to you is a ghetto.. did you not say that you have the statistics to prove us wrong?? or my England so poor I misunderstood ke? ok I go back and read again ya.. |
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ May 15 2015, 05:54 PM) adui..be reasonable lah..you are the one that said that the stats prove this and that..so am just asking you show us the statistics that you so cleverly quoted to try to convince us silly buggers who are under an illusion that rawang is an investable location which to you is a ghetto.. did you not say that you have the statistics to prove us wrong?? or my England so poor I misunderstood ke? ok I go back and read again ya.. |
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I am curious for the most recent launch of super luxury superlinks BRDB and Field of Gold, who will be the ultimate users ?
Mind you, those are over 2mio link houses. Someone please enlighten me, cause I have no clue despite rawang is a place i frequently traveled to |
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If u have extra cash yes, otherwise dont invest in rawang. Slow in appreciation
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yup rawang really jialat place, but elsewhere for better appreciation.
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Purely for own stay should be fine, as DPC also shy of 3m... Rawang can still get it for 1m...
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QUOTE(rickyro @ Aug 8 2015, 11:21 AM) if die die want to stay in landed and with budget constraints, can consider Rawang as plenty of good choices in Emerald West...I mean there are still a few towns like seremban, bangi , semenyih , dengkil which can be considered as well ..very true but for own stay personal preferences and requirements do take precedence..so no right or wrong lahfor investment, can debate until the cows come home |
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Rawang is still a good option for those who looking to trade off distance to city for bigger living space. RalphRatedR liked this post
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Hi guys, just wish to share some more upcoming development in Rawang.
MAJESTIC @ RAWANG -3 SUPER LINK HOUSE WITH SKY LOUNGE[SIZE=7] https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=154&t=3700805 - OPEN FOR REGISTRATION - - PROJECT 3D PREVIEW, CLICK THE LINK BELOW: https://youtu.be/MTxDkZziWKA SALES GALLERY: NO 43, JALAN BANDAR RAWANG, 48000 RAWANG,SELANGOR OR CALL MR WONG 03-60919119 / 011-20232385 FOR VIEWING APPOINTMENT - ATTRACTIVE REBATES & EARLY BIRD PACKAGE - BRAND NEW FREEHOLD[SIZE=7] HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN RAWANG TOWN - FOR SMART AND SECURE LIFESTYLE FOR YOUR FAMILY * 3 STOREY SUPER LINK WITH SKY LOUNGE * GATED & GUARDED * PERIMETER CCTV / PANIC BUTTON * 6R6B (2 MASTER BEDROOMS) * SWIMMING POOL, MULTIPURPOSE HALL, WADING POOL, CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND * BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE WITH JOGGING TRACK * FREE WIFI WITHIN FACILITY AREA * LOCATED IN FULL AMENITIES' RAWANG TOWN * LOW DENSITY (50 UNITS) * 3 TYPES OF DESIGN AVAILABLE 39 UNITS TYPE A (22 x 70) - 3,189 SF (AVAILABLE) 4 UNITS TYPE B (32 x 53) - 3,153 SF (SOLD OUT) 7 UNITS TYPE C (26 x 62) - 3,099 SF (SOLD OUT) * NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTED * LOW DOWN PAYMENT HAVE A NICE VIEWING. |
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Selling my unit now with low price. Garden Heights Phase 3, Bandar Tasik Puteri, Rawan, Rawang. Do let me know if you interested.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 6 2015, 12:26 PM) Now? Sorry no. How's things so far? It depends what is your aim. For own stay with proper G&G and more lay back life style I say go ahead. If you want to play rental sorry to tell you no such market. A Semi-D in Anggun 2 is rented below 2k now partly furnished. Barely 4% yield provided you buy back in 2010. If you don't mind 5 - 10 years for it to grow then i will say go ahead. Road condition, environment is still not there yet. Most new development are on the Jusco side, good 10-15 minutes drive to main commercial area old / new town area. And don't forget the jam on weekends. Nearer to it is Country Home and upcoming Anggun City. I stayed in Subang for 20 years before moving into Anggun 2 few months back. I've been staying in subang for 20 years too. Considering to invest in Rawang for own stay. Any advice? |
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Jun 24 2019, 09:11 PM
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Visited rawang recently , went over to Guocoland sales gallery, their Garland project looks promising ... any buyers here ? Can that area boom say in 5 yrs time ?
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Jun 25 2019, 01:46 AM
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Nope. Its too far from klcc. Ulu place.
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Jun 25 2019, 08:37 AM
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How is Rawang nowadays?
The last time I was there was about 10 years ago. |
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Jun 25 2019, 08:58 AM
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Jun 25 2019, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Jun 24 2019, 09:11 PM) Visited rawang recently , went over to Guocoland sales gallery, their Garland project looks promising ... any buyers here ? Can that area boom say in 5 yrs time ? still no booster bro... no new highway... no new self sustaining job opportunities... but the guocoland rawang location quite decent... have school near to aeon and near to exit of NSE... if u are working at PJ subang... go to work i think less than 45 mins during peak.... KL need one hour min with jam.... |
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Jun 25 2019, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jun 25 2019, 08:37 AM) 10 yr go and 10 yr now still same wad. RalphRatedR liked this post
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May 16 2021, 09:22 AM
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Mar 8 2022, 05:36 PM
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I think Rawang is booming right now. With the road upgrade almost complete and Anggun City commercial area almost fully occupied, this place is poised to be the sought-after landed G&G spot with reasonable price and not too far from KL & PJ.
I also think there is a lot of potential for the Gamuda Gardens area, but this still need many years to become a self-sustaining township. |
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Mar 14 2022, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Mar 8 2022, 05:36 PM) I think Rawang is booming right now. With the road upgrade almost complete and Anggun City commercial area almost fully occupied, this place is poised to be the sought-after landed G&G spot with reasonable price and not too far from KL & PJ. Yes I agree.I also think there is a lot of potential for the Gamuda Gardens area, but this still need many years to become a self-sustaining township. In fact, it seems that Guocoland is revamping their Emerald West township to include 'waterfront shops' just along their clubhouse and this is poised to mimic the surroundings of Desa Park City. Also heard that they are currently in talks with Jaya Grocer to open up a store there but no news yet! |
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Apr 5 2022, 04:18 PM
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They seem to be building something next to Honda 3S, looks like multiple storey building. Anyone knows what they are building?
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Oct 26 2023, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Apr 5 2022, 04:18 PM) They seem to be building something next to Honda 3S, looks like multiple storey building. Anyone knows what they are building? It's a Proton 3S centre. There's also a Caltex coming up between Honda and Proton. Seems to be at least one vacant plot right next to Anggun 1. Wonder what they plan to build there. |
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