i know the rated wattage for cheap amp mostly is bull sh1t..(cheap amp i mean below RM300 one)

but let say a 1200W 2ch cap ayam amp (we asume the real RMS is around 200W)

and a branded 200W RMS 2ch amp..

use it to power a same woofer..will it really sound diffrently?

u're really asking something stupid
if they sound the same... why would enthusiasts pay few grands for a real good amp?
for fun?

What's the difference? The obvious would be the quality and also the grade of parts used inside the amplifier. And most cheaper amps are prone to break down after a year or two of usage. But as for expensive amps(which are of international credit, not as in "expensive cap ayam"), the parts used usually comes with certain grades and would last years. I've got amps that are more than 10 years old and they are STILL working flawlessly, i doubt you can say the same for cheapo amps.

As to whether does it sound different or not, this is VERY much debatable,

quality and price of course i know la..

but the sound quality?

Sound Quality ...Cheaper amp can't beat expensive amp..
If not everyone buy cheaper one la...
Expensive amp company should bankrup liao

But everybody cannnot buy expensive amp.

This post has been edited by kayray: Oct 19 2006, 12:23 AM

lol
everybody cannot buy expensive amp?

u are a real joker

but not everybody couldn't afford expensive amp? <=== sound better..

there is few classes of amps.. Class A amps and Class D amps circuit design are more popular.

basically those cheap amps are not actually classified in these catagories. they are using amplifier chips only... i've dismantled a so called 400W PMPO chicken brand amp that costs RM100. the chipset they use cannot even pump more than 5W RMS

my friend got a so called made in USA amp that he uses to blast 2x10" also made in usa sub woofer. the rated power was about 1200W PMPO... it work flawlessly. but once i put an 8" sumo polaris dual coil woofer replacing the 2x10" woofer, the amp cut off in less than 1 hour play. FYI the sumo polaris is only 60W RMS per coil. so dual coil is only 120W RMS with 700WPMPO.

got him a second hand audiostream amp for about RM600 and it played flawlessly.

expensive amps have proper circuit design and better quality components. Class A amps is normally used for woofers, while class D amps which are much more expensive and harder to produce is for the sound quality.

expansive amp = real power
cheap amp = fake power

class A for woofers?
r u joking or wat
class a is so well known of power loss... and their low power rating
how on earth they can power up a normal sub?

class D on the other hand is normally for woofers...
bcos of its power efficiency
they're not expensive to produce nor cheap...

lmao

class D chip are more ex than class A transistor..but class A transistor need many to work but class D only need a few.....

if compare the chip, class D ex, class A cheap...
if compare overall, class A ex, class D cheap

transistor is still cheap...only the quality of the product make sense........

rated 100w while u r actaully getting 50w mayb.....juz mayb if u r lucky

at same rated watt, ull notice the cheaper amp less component

ocphangaz basically says it all other then the mess up class D n A

so answer is real power and fake power.

not only power
also the sound characteristic, control etc

expensive amp provide natural vocal + music.
Cheap amp provide abnormal sound

chap ayam amp provide noise and muddy sound...

while good amps... they gives out real power, and clean sound... and more controls too...

but if you cannot hear the differences of cuz you sould say they are the same...

cheers....

caliber = cap ayam?

conside cap ayam...

local caliber is chap ayam...but in UK, the real caliber is quite good....

Let me guess, the brother amp is also a cap ayam right?

cheap amps vs expensive amps is just like cheap psu vs expensive psu

cheap amps are usually lighter than expensive amps

sound wise is hard to tell if both are capable of producing the same quality output... but expensive amps usually have better durability since they have better components.

it's like iCute psu vs Silverstone psu... think about it.

dont agreed with you..

cheap amp...sound quality is terrible...for bass purpose it is ok but for vocal....obsolutely no

expansive amp... depends...sometime the price has been mark up by the shop heavily...so must survey before buying it

for sure brothers is chap ayam..........

Why don't we compile a list of CAP Ayam and proper Branded amps for general reference?

cheap amps will sound terrible if they were not able to produce the right power output at a certain volume level.... which is 80% of the time is true. however there are some people who do not blast their speakers all the time so quality wise is hard to say at lower volumes.

and please use the EDIT button instead of posting two replies continuously.

This post has been edited by soulfly: Oct 20 2006, 10:53 AM

u cant judge amps with the weight.......

same here too...
weight is about the heat sink inside the amp.

Hmmm, i'm actually using a Brothers amp (due to budget constraints)... So far its doing fine, the sound coming out from my speakers has improved a lot actually... Dunno how long it can tahan though...

the cheap amp n exp amp when new using mayb will giving a not bad quality. but jz wanna c the cheap amp can last for the quality output how long only and the exp amp will no nit scare to problem happen.

I guess cheap amps are only for beginners perhaps? People like me couldn't really differentiate quality sounds and average sounds. As I just enter ICE world, still need time before I could tell what makes good sound.

So far my 'cheap' amp (Oxygen) produces good bass for my subwoofer ler

cheap amp...enthusiathm..
exp amp....wannabe

is it bassy = good? or maybe ur subwoofer is.........

Some general remarks again?

yea i think for woofer..any amp with enuf power can soudn good..but for powering component set i dunno la

hah????caliber cap ayam?????

Component set meaning the entire speaker system right? Then maybe the "chap ayam" can be a bit underpowered...

My Brothers' amp is currently connected to just my rear speakers... So far its doing well, maybe because the unit is just being used to power one item... As for woofer, its obviously better to go for the more high-end amps, for the sound quality right?

Definitely you cannot be serious about cheap amps being lighter than expensive amps.

There are so many china and korean made amps that are purposely made heavy to impress the gullible audience. However, in actual fact the heavy plate or chassis is not an indication of the quality of the components used and sound quality of the amplifier.

I do however agree with you that expensive amp are mostly made more durable and robust.

what about rca cable ? cheap and expansive differential