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nles
post Jan 6 2024, 09:23 PM

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After months of research, youtube and reading a lot of forum pages.

Things just get more complicated lol.

Planning for new home, just go everything aqara? At first thought want to use synology surveilance station but after reading reddit like not a good choice for CCTV also.
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post Jan 8 2024, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 6 2024, 11:47 PM)
Yea i would recommend full aqara

Synology one dont you need to pay for license? If you are starting from scratch even networking get a UDM Pro and get their cameras also
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Synology need to buy license pack. I saw somewhere UDM discontinue their camera software, is it? I did thought of using ubiquiti for my house network.

QUOTE(dest9116 @ Jan 7 2024, 09:04 AM)
You can also go full tuya. Aqara devices are about twice more expensive but they can connect to matter and homekit
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 7 2024, 12:56 PM)
quality wise, tuya quality is inconsistent.
Aqara has better quality and ease of use.
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Thanks for the recommendation, if have budget go aqara, if want to save go tuya I guess. Need to compare the price different.

Currently I think priority is lighting, curtain, camera and security, these I think need to install while renovating with all the proper cabling.
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post Jan 9 2024, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 8 2024, 11:05 PM)
Maybe the old one called Ubiquiti or Unifi Video. Its called Unifi Protect now. Try for Aqara, look at taobao prices for E1 switches and see if it can fit.
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I search on the web, only saw around 2 company carries ubiquiti products, wonder if they do aqara as well. 1 time consult all, new place so much things to cover.

I taobao a lot too, to check out aqara stuff. Another thing to consider is neutral or w/o. Need to see my electrician from my interior designer pro or not tongue.gif
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post Jan 9 2024, 10:41 AM

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Got quoted this from Yeelight, fuiiyoooo. If I use Aqara I still need to use smart bulb and strips ya?
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post Jan 10 2024, 07:57 AM

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Thanks for all the input, didn't quote everyone but yea I also find the light quotation not worth to go for. The quotation was like 2 or 3 months back and I didn't pursue further with it. If I use normal bulb and only use smart switches, CMIIW the thing I'm missing out is probably the dimming function unless I add dimmers, also the ability to control the light temperature.


QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 9 2024, 03:01 PM)
In Malaysia yea but i think better if you just order from abroad larh and using a forwarding company, cheaper. I have ordered stuff from Subtel and Synchroweb but their markup is kinda high IMO. You can also consider Mikrotik stuff but they are a lot less user friendly larh the UI.
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Order abroad just worry ran into warranty issue, but so far my router all doing fine. Another 1 is the support, buy abroad means everything I setup myself, planning the cable routes. I was thinking a udm pro, switch and 2-3 AP for double storey terrace.

Since is from scratch, also plan to use zigbee device, but how many hub do I need, hub has about the same coverage as standard wifi router ya?

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post Jan 10 2024, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 10 2024, 08:13 AM)
If you plan to dim, your bulb or LED need to be able to support it. IMO if you want the dimming feature, better to go with those bulb that has this feature. My house, the only room that has dimming is my movie room... all the rest is just on and off.
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jan 10 2024, 08:49 AM)
movie room... wow
pls invite if u house got man's caves too 😆

back to the dimming...
do u know that it is better to use addressable light strip to dim your room?
you can dim it to any color + animation 👻
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Movie room tour =D


QUOTE(dest9116 @ Jan 10 2024, 10:21 AM)
Nowadays those normal bulbs even got 3 colour types, can change colour on and off change temperature
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Yea just wondering will I be able to control the temperature via phone. I see those press the switch to change temperature very troublesome.

QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 10 2024, 10:42 AM)
Not necessarily to add dimmer switch, if you need to dim, change color temp, rgb can configure it straight from your wifi wall switch to smart bulbs.
I had the 3x clicks go to disco rgb mode but i rarely use that lol
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DImming function mainly just want the lights to slowly brighten up/down while switching on the lights. No main disco disco lol
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post Jan 10 2024, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 10 2024, 02:19 PM)
You mean the transition when it’s turned on? That’s usually the default on tuya lights
If you pick tuya downlights, can shave off 70% from the quote
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How's the compatibility of aqara/tuya stuff from taobao? Tuya is running with wifi right?

QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 10 2024, 02:42 PM)
You can get electrician to just do all the cabling, just over commit on this put ethernet everywhere, even places you will never think you would need one there.

Setting up once wiring is done (get Cat 6, no need to waste money on 7/8 etc) can also put a couple of DAC (or fiber cables) from wherever your router will be to where you would have a workspace/office/computer room/gaming room to future proof , is actually pretty easy larh, in fact i am sure youtube + us here or on the networking forums on lowyat can walk you through it. Ubiquiti has nice interface to manage all their stuff so its not hard and a lot of youtubers cover their stuff because they use them in their homelabs.

Well the MY authorized resellers only have 1 year warranty anyway ...
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Need to get quality cables probably Schneider, recently company ran an live event and the cable causes latency problems. Right now I plan to pull the fiber to either office/store room then ethernet to living room, kitchen and 2nd floor. In what situation we wanna use DAC for?


QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jan 10 2024, 02:45 PM)
Actually can also consider, regular bulbs everywhere but wherever you want dimming functionality have cove lighting style with led strip in it. Not only can dim, can go nuts also larh LUL
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At first LED strip in cove lighting but right now I replace them with T5, easier for maintenance tongue.gif

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post Jan 10 2024, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Jan 10 2024, 03:39 PM)
I suggest get the cheaper option only for lights, those led you will never know when they will spoil, imagine one led strip or bulb cost 100, then headache when you want to change. Same for maintenance. It's easier to swap bulbs E27 and T5 than led strips. But it's different if you rich and call ppl come change once it spoils.

BTW if you want go crazy with lights can also get the sonoff rgb switch lol.
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LED strip if spoil, either replace the whole strip or cut and replace the one in between, haven't try before but seems easy.

QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jan 10 2024, 07:50 PM)
initially i wanted all my downlights use e27, but it is more expensive than the 1 piece clip downlight.
not to mention there are also 6in gap in between the ceiling.
for living room, it is not confronted with modern design concept.
ended up tak jadi...

oh did i misunderstanding he planned to use T5 as ceiling reflector light...?
let calculate, 4feet T5 LED = 18watts
how many feet you need?
in long term i dont think it is economical
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long term T5 will consume more energy than led strip ya, sales person just mention that replacing LED can be a pain in the arse.
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post Mar 8 2024, 10:50 AM

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Currently planning to buy all the require item for my project within this month, is lazada/shopee will have better deal during sales?

I'm still figuring out the things that are lacking. Mobile devices are iOS, so will go for homekit.

1. How many hub I need and the placement. Looking at the floor plan, do I need to place 1 at the TV console area, 1 at kitchen and 1 at 1st floor?
2. The relay module for autogate, anyone knows what pre-requisite I need to install it, in terms of electrical or other.
3. Should I plan the place to put FP2 sensor, I feel is something nice to have but not necessary.
4. Same goes to smart door bell, nice to have but not necessary?
5. All the curtain supplier I approach use either somfy or dooya. How's the intergration with homekit?

Things I planned to purchase for now are
1. Aqara switches, probably H1 mix with Z1
2. Aqara hub
3. Relay for autogate
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post Mar 8 2024, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 8 2024, 11:08 AM)
Only use fp2 in rooms/area that has interference like fans so you can exclude the zones. Others can get cheaper one like fp1

Still need apple tv/homepod as homekit hub

Better go for zemismart curtains with matter support
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have fan in living and kitchen =D

So I would need both aqara hub + appletv/homepod

Dooya is wifi right? Have to find curtain supplier that use zemismart hardware, not easy to find esepcially one that can do one piece corner rail.
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post Mar 8 2024, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 8 2024, 12:03 PM)
It’s wifi using tuya platform, you’d need to setup homebridge and configure tuya plugin. If you don’t mind doing that
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Tuya seems like a much more affordable solution compare to aqara.
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post Mar 8 2024, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 8 2024, 12:36 PM)
Yes, they’re cheaper but qc may very depending on oem.
You can find some homekit or Matter devices at laz/shopee using same tuya hardware or from this shop

https://m.tb.cn/h.5Er21E8roDrXr06?tk=DDyqWms5ize

Another easier way is getting tuya homekit/matter hub to add tuya zigbee devices
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Thanks a lot, much cheaper than Aqara which cost RM200+ for each switch. Probably aqara intergration with homekit is better.

As a starter, should start with something cheap first.

So the thing I need to get are
Switches
Matter Hub
Apple TV/Pod

Should I draw a diagram for these biggrin.gif
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post Mar 8 2024, 11:43 PM

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I'm a techie but just doesn't have the time to do that anymore. Rarely touch my PS5 haha, decoration item.

Now I'm thinking of getting older gen aqara switch, checking what do I miss out comparing D1 with H1
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post Mar 11 2024, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 11 2024, 09:13 AM)
I would go with E1 if I build now too, and most of the time E1 cheaper. But bare in mind the E1 has lower current limits than D1. But since I'm using for LED lights not too big deal.
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I can't seem to find a lot seller for E1 locally. E1 maximum only have 2 gang switches ya? I see taobao got more choices, but not local platform shopee/lazada.

By the way anyone know curtain seller that can do aqara or zemismart rail? I asked most of them use Dooya Zigbee, one supplier got aqara as their choice but quoted me RM4500 for 2 x 8.5ft track. Curve track quoted me RM3000.

The headache part is the L angle track, want to find one that can bend it with machine instead of using connector.

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post Mar 28 2024, 09:07 PM

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Guys I'm on apple ecosystem.
If given the choice of either Dooya or top up significantly extra for Aqara smart curtain, what's the better choice?

Not really sure how well can I integrate Dooya into apple homekit. Getting custom track so not all brand the vendor can do.
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post Mar 30 2024, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 29 2024, 09:06 AM)
Aqara Smart Curtain.

I did mine with Smart Home Curtain (the shop in Penang), they only can supply lifesmart or smartlife motor which has homekit hub... but teruk la it doesn't have the Zigbee system like Aqara sad.gif.

I had to put 2 hubs 1 upstairs and 1 downstairs.
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I go nego nego because right now is rm600 different per track. if it's like 100 then easy choice.
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post Mar 31 2024, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Mar 30 2024, 12:06 PM)
Actually how is the custom track design? Since you’re stuck with their Dooya curtain.
Can’t just request to make custom track then have them install different curtain motors?
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I think the end of the curtain track is different, I look at curtain motors, some has slight different head.
Not really sure can fit or not, and there's no place I can look at both motor. Actually even those curtain supplier, when you ask them about curtain motor they also unsure. They only know the brand, when you ask wifi or zigbee, ac or dc. Basically 10 out of 10 no one can answer me lol.

I think only curtain track supplier know, but they usually only deal with dealers.
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post Jul 29 2024, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jul 27 2024, 05:06 PM)
Finished adding wifi direct control to all my ac, not relying on ir this time.
All you need is esp8266 with some jst cable & connect to port on your ac pcb (check your diagram)
You can add this to your homebridge and ha. Total cost is around rm12-14 per ac

Daikin (cn_wir port)

Jst cable 2.0
https://my.shp.ee/ZYRNff2

Faikin
https://github.com/Sonic-Amiga/ESP8266-Faikin

Wiring - cn_wir port specifically because it’s scattered in the github repo. If yours is built in wifi module model just remove that cable from the port.

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Mitsubishi Electric (cn105 port)

PAP jst cable
https://my.shp.ee/vwE85Ut

Mitsubishi2mqtt
https://github.com/dzungpv/mitsubishi2MQTT

For tuya, you can order this module from thailand
https://shopee.co.th/product/27525505
And that’s it, should save you 500 from sensibo or other devices. Obviously daikin has their own app, but not exactly open source. And mitsubishi electric has kumo cloud but they don’t exactly use it here. For other brands, you can just google it, i noticed panasonic, midea, haier has non cloud esp solution.
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I’m thinking if I want to use smart switch for the Aircon switch.
Aqara only has 20A switch which should be able support up to my 2.5hp AC, I have a 3.0hp AC that requires 32A switch.

I think is not necessary to have smart switch for AC, but good to have.

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post Nov 28 2024, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Nov 25 2024, 07:12 AM)
At least from epicure reviewed before this, tuya homekit hub is more reliable than matter version

Only limitation with homekit is you don’t get power monitoring (which you’re probably already familiar with).You can still view the power usage in tuya app. Also, you can get any tuya hub which is cheaper than zemismart since they work the same

As for panasonic ac, you can connect esp32 to the CN-CNT or CN-WLAN port on the pcb and control it directly without relying on IR + get actual state if someone use the physical remote. Should cost you rm20 or so, just you’d still need to setup homebridge (yet another hub) from an old pc or raspberry pi.

Panasonic —(esp32)-> homebridge —> homekit

https://github.com/DomiStyle/esphome-panasonic-ac
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Time to explore tuya homekit hub. My main problem is locally there's not much curtain supplier that do custom railing for Aqara. Mostly all is Dooya.

 

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