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melvinchng
post Apr 30 2023, 10:13 AM

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I am looking to DIY and replace my current home switch to smart switch and would need help on some questions.

3 switches need to replaced in total
- 2x two gang (1x light and 1x fan)
- 1x three gang (2x light and 1x fan)

This is how the 2x two gang is wired. I do have neutral hidden and unused. (EDIT: green might be earth as pointed out by member)

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For the three gang switch. There is no neutral.

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In my case, what is the best setup that can work with my Alexa? Shall I go with
1. all no neutral switches
2. two with neutral and one without neutral switches
3. all with neutral switches? (Can I borrow the neutral from the AC switch next to it?)

This post has been edited by melvinchng: Apr 30 2023, 10:27 AM
melvinchng
post Apr 30 2023, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 30 2023, 10:17 AM)
The one with neutral cable hidden that you have mentioned, neutral is usually black color... (green is earth). Better confirm this first?
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Apr 30 2023, 10:19 AM)
I did this with whatever is next to switch (be it A/C or 3-pin sockets), under assumption all N goes direct to same connection point at the db mains.
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Apr 30 2023, 10:24 AM)
Your 2 gang the green wire I think more like earth wire than neutral? Usually earth is green, live is red/yellow/blue, neutral is black

Depends if later u will expand your smart home or not or just going to stop at 3 switches, if 3 switches than cheapo wifi switch 2 neutral 1 non neutral can d, not recommended to borrow from ac, ac may be different phase eg. Your live is red, ac may be blue then the neutral will be diff phase, later you will headache if u want install RCD for each phase, but if u don't plan to do that usually no issue la. Non neutral cheapo switches will need to install the capacitor, for this you need to know how to disassemble your lights / fan to install the capacitor. Good thing with cheapo wifi switches is that it's cheaper by half, spoil just throw and replace
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Yeah, you guys made a point. I mixed up earth and neutral.

It looks like the best option here is to go with no neutral + hub?

I also plan to install smart door lock down the line. My research tell me that I should go with Agara A100 + free E1 hub, then only go with smart switch? Or the E1 hub is very basic. I do not tend to convert more switches to smart switch (maybe 2x 20A for AC I guess? That's the max I will go).

Please provide your feedback smile.gif

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melvinchng
post Apr 30 2023, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 30 2023, 01:49 PM)
Aqara D1 no neutral switches are the better ones, no need use capacitor like some others.

Also to note, Aqara have 20A switches. I’m using Aqara M2 with Zigbee. Pretty solid and stable, though I’m using neutral switches which acts as repeaters for the signal.
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Does Aqara has rf hub? I tried looking online and they only have ir. My fan uses rf instea of ir.

 

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