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post Jul 28 2024, 03:41 PM

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Hi all, newbie here to start asking questions - is there something to read up first so I don't re-ask basic things? Doing renovation/extension for sub-sale soon and want to plan out possibility of smart home (initially just on/off control for lighting and cooling). My basic reading so far is to use zigbee rather than wifi (zwave costlier), and it seems there's a few brands mentioned in recent pages (aqara? sonoff?) to investigate. The last time I looked into these things Tuya was the go-to, has that changed?
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post Jul 28 2024, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 28 2024, 04:21 PM)

And a wall plug socket for CCTV positions even for the outside, some may even use the ethernet for CCTV.
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Should I prioritize wall + ethernet for CCTV or just POE?
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post Jul 30 2024, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 28 2024, 09:50 PM)
What do you mean by that? Any ethernet cable (just get CAT 6/6A) can carry power, the POE portion is sent by yours network switch.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 29 2024, 10:13 AM)
Don't quite understand, but generally if you have Ethernet then there's PoE already as long the camera supports it and your switch has a power source for it.
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As I understand, POE requires either injector or the switch to support POE. But my (possibly outdated) understanding is also that POE has a slightly higher risk of non-standard components causing devices to fry/burn (because of the increased voltage supplied). If my entire network no POE then theoretically less risk for all the wired devices (but then would need power point for every camera).

QUOTE(eagle7 @ Jul 29 2024, 10:36 PM)
Perhaps I rephase your questions also to extend other possible options

Option 1: Wall Power Socket + LAN cable
Option 2: LAN cable only
Option 3: Wall Power Socket only.

Option 1: My preferred option as I will not be limited to CCTV with POE type only, but I can use any other brand that may not support POE.  I can extend the usage of the wall power socket for other purpose such as motion sensor, smart plug controlling the hanging LED light for all sort of festival etc.

Option 2: Limited to POE CCTV or any gadget supporting POE.

Option 3: Many CCTV now support WIFI connection such as 2.4GHz or 5GHz. If you plan to save the video stream into DVR, then ensure you have good mesh network.
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Thanks this is helpful. I'm familiar with CCTV which support wifi, as I currently using cheap china device for that (unfortunately the data is cloud-based and calling home to China too, would prefer to move away from that). So for me is option 1 or option 2, I guess as long as aesthetics not an issue option 1 is the most flexible (plus can always be converted to POE later on if the wall socket is needed for something else). Though I think external camera exposed to some splashing from rain maybe POE is safer?
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post Jul 30 2024, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 30 2024, 12:25 PM)
You think you know it all when using cheap WiFi China CCTV, until...
Those Tuya and Ewelink CCTV are seriously worst than those. Always disconnecting. And if you use if for scenes and automation, you will be seriously disappointed. It is so bad that I only wish they could add into their settings a "Disconnecting" options.

Anything External and waterproof also has it's connectors covered up.
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Well obviously using CCTV with wifi different from using lan-connected. And more work required to have a local device which records the video/processes the feed. So you recommend to avoid tuya/ewelink for CCTV?

 

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