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C_ST
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Sep 22 2025, 10:05 AM
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Sorry if is repeated question, tried scrolling this thread + search function, can't find any related answer.
N years ago, my eletrictian asked me to get a no-neutral smart switch, so, bought a no-neutral wifi + rf433mhz 3 gang switch, installed with a capacitor on my first lamp, follow by another lamp and ac fan.
Recently the switch start to be not responding, probably due to wear & tear, thus, finding back a similar smart switch. I prefer the kind with 'press' function, not the touch screen type.
But nowadays, the 'press' type in the market thats come with Wifi + Rf433mhz are all 'Need Neutral', can't find any is no neutral.
So my humble noobie question 1. If there is a fan, does it means it actually have a neutral wire inside? 2. Or, if I die die install a Neutral require switch, what scenario will happen?
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C_ST
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Sep 22 2025, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(ryansxs @ Sep 22 2025, 11:32 AM) 1) most of the switches have LIVE only (without neutral). hence you wireman asked you to buy the no neutral switch. 2) there are 2 options in this case. a) you pull the neutral wire from fan back to the switch (means you need to do bit wiring la) b) you curi neutral from somewhere near, maybe from aircond switch (but this is highly NOT recomended) But I think nowadays, its more common to have no neutral switch la. Good luck! Thanks ya The fan's neutral wire is usually connected at the fan there, instead of at the switch is it? I tried open my switch socket to see, all wire same colour, no idea about wat is wat. If yes... then option (a) hard for me, also Google (b), yea, neighbour switch is aircond, seems very dangerous. If so, no choice but to continue search for my favor design switch
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C_ST
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Sep 22 2025, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Sep 22 2025, 01:45 PM) Both Aqara, sonoff supports no neutral wall switches, but it is Zigbee switch, you need to have Zigbee gateway. Have browse through these, not suitable for me (just treat me as degil), coz whole house only using one smart switch for my bed room, for me to set timer, control lights & fan using RF433 switch on bed anytime, so no plan to add on extra device. Still looking around, since I hard to pull wire & not to curi tepi wire, no choice then forced to get the 'touch screen' style smart switch. Thanks btw.
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C_ST
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Sep 23 2025, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 22 2025, 07:02 PM) Yeah, not much option now with rf433mhz combo Mostly are still with the touch switch type You can still mod in rf433 receiver into the pcb just a bit hassle to configure the firmware I think you could use this one I just found this on AliExpress: MYR18.23 | Tuya Smart Life WiFi 433mhz Wireless Push Button Wall Switch Google Home Light On Off 220V RF433 Remote Control EU UK Two 3 Way https://a.aliexpress.com/_c4ThDh0bThanks for your help, but unfortunately, this is a vice device switch only, not the main gang.
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