developer uses the same white-colour plastic baseplate as the one you say is used on surface. the difference is only, it is now inside the wall itself.

I like it better to be on Zigbee signal. Cleaner for the DHCP server after all.

But if zigbee hub goes down, wheeew, major problem to reregister. I read official documentation that the Tuya/Smart Life can migrate ALL devices off faulty hub to a new replacement hub, but have not tried and did not intend to, so cannot comment the survival rate of the procedure.

why not multi-mode gateways that covers both bluetooth and zigbee? one device to rule 'em all.
i boight this pne, price difference additional ~RM10 direct from CN.
https://shopee.com.my/product/704516459/1661750877



i don't have bluetooth device to add, so no need to show empty list.

For Aqara?

I'm not sure if this 30A is compatible. I bought this (for Wifi, not Zigbee) and install right before water heater in 2 bathrooms. The wall switch remain as-is "low-tech" for now. (hint: sold out, go aliexpress for EXACT same model that I bought)

https://shopee.com.my/product/94184605/1308...57-1665045100.9.

if you want the wall switch version, unfortunately, there is no 30A one. only 16A or 20A. a lot of seller selling wall switch for water heater and aircond, you won't have problem finding one -
BUT, read the label on the picture, read description. those 16A fortunately all somehow standardised to 3600W. BUT some 20A rated for 4000W, some 20A rated for 4400W. description says 16A, title and picture show 20A; same goes for wattage. it's like a con-py-&-paste job for everyone.

Malaysia plug for 15A is round 3-pin. I have not found 1 seller that sells 16A or 20A wall socket for round 3-pin. So far only managed to find 1 seller that sells 16A socket with usual 3-pin.

WiFi Tuya Smart Wall Socket Glass Panel Outlet Power Monitor Touch Plug Relay Status Light Mode Adjustable Smart Life
https://shopee.com.my/product/372243380/136...57-1665046346.9

3-pin socket and extension picture here is for size comparison of the 30A wifi smart switch.

I'm not commenting on "good" part.

I previously asked in here what was difference between "Tuya" app and "Smart Life" app. Answer was along the line "they are the same."

Well, they are not.

"Tuya" is for use inside Mainland China.
"Smart Life" is for use outside Mainland China.

Tuya - hardware.

The app part, they issued 1 version using 2 different names - "Tuya" (for use in Mainland) and "SmartLife" (for global).

I'm OCD about history of downloaded apps - because once I download, there will be historical record of it and I am very concerned freak about downloading apps that I cannot use nor have use, so I am very particular on downloading the right app on first try. It's not about illicit app, but rather, keeping a list of the exact apps I use, no more. The last thing I like to see is a messed 1000-apps downloaded. So when I download "Tuya" app and after chatting with support only know that "Tuya" not usable outside Mainland, that I should have used "SmartLife", I really feel flip table want to slap people.

(hide ≠ delete. whoever it was that decided one cannot delete app download history in App Store and Play Store - f*** you.)

For 3-pin sockets, yes, all 3 wires.

But for light and fan switches, there is only (L)ive fed into switches, then another wire for it to go above ceiling to appliance.

Is there a way to infer that a power outage has occured without using smart whatever at the fusebox?

i.e. just by condition of smart wall switches and sockets.
because if there is sudden outage, i assume the switches will have no time to report itself. then it's up to the management server to report of it being offline 30minutes later.

fibre and mesh is UPS-backed, so network uptime to an 1hr is possible, though not tested to max.

This post has been edited by Oltromen Ripot: Oct 9 2022, 10:20 AM

1. becomes part of the wall fixture, screw it. power comes from wires inside wall.

2. standalone unit; you can double-side tape onto wall or any surface otherwise you can't screw into, or leave on coffee table, ... i imagine it will need battery.

This post has been edited by Oltromen Ripot: Oct 9 2022, 12:14 PM

i cannot show you exactly, for obvious reason 😅

AND, recently I disabled TR-069 inside the router, so Maxis (and MyMaxis app) can no longer access the router from remote. The "Manage Home Wifi" is not useful to me any longer.

As replacement, I had the BTU and router on a smart socket gang, the smart socket is on the other hand connected to wireless Huawei B618 on Digi network, to make sure I can still control on/off of the fibre set. And this is better, because TR-069 still at the mercy of LOS and fibre downtime.





This post has been edited by Oltromen Ripot: Oct 12 2022, 02:04 PM

I would love to have a socket that can return to "on" after a timer, then I don't need to run a separate LTE router just for a smart socket.

Button also available through your fibre line.

I had that "contact for assistance" when (i) router not reachable (not powered, LOS, etc), and (ii) after I disable TR-069.

Additionally, it could be (iii) TR-069 in Maxis's record mismatches what is actually inside your router. I did try to flip it on again after testing when it is disabled, and MyMaxis app can regain access the router again.
My router and mesh is Huawei LG8245X6-10.



This post has been edited by Oltromen Ripot: Oct 12 2022, 03:41 PM

Ah, the "relay" state.

But no, this is not about power cut.

This is about resetting internet modem/router by powering off, then on again.

If the smart socket itself is connected through the internet router that you are about to switch off....
If the socket has built-in timer to switch on again after lapse, then good lah. But the ones i've seen so far does not. So after switch off, then "owh! duh! shit!".

That's why I added the smart socket for my fibre-related through LTE connection,
while the smart socket for my LTE-related is added through fibre connection. They are independent of each other, as long as i didn't do the stupid thing of resetting them all at once.



This post has been edited by Oltromen Ripot: Oct 12 2022, 04:06 PM

Lets take this to Maxis FTTH thread

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=105449874

@anyone,

with reference picture.

i have a lot of these switch pairs inside my home.
which i have already ascertained that each multi-gang switches and each 20A switches are connected to different circuit breakers. so in the reference picture alone, there are 2 breakers involved.
all the multi-gang switches does not have their own neutral. only 20A switches do.
(all 20A switches have their own not-shared exclusive breaker, for avoidance of doubt.)

question:
is it possible for me to buy multi-gang tuya wifi SMART switches WITH its neutral line connected to the 20A's neutral line instead?



This post has been edited by Oltromen Ripot: Oct 26 2022, 01:16 PM

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i suspect the same. but without visual confirmation it is so, then i guess i just have to test it out (and hope not a random breaker gets tripped).

for my own safety precaution and to calm anxiety, what is "loop" in the current context?

i am still looking for 4-gang zigbee wall switches.
1/2/3 are common. 4 are mostly wifi.
if possible i want a rocker-type switch which will be intuitive enough, but most on the market for 4-gang are wifi +glass touch.

just the ones that appear like the usual press top to switch off, press bottom to switch on.
but all so far only maxed at 3 gangs.

when i replaced 16A 3-pin socket with a touch glass smart one, my wife already like "eh, how to switch on?", so you can imagine the confusion if i replace light sockets with flat top glass touch ones. i am also guessing that the backlight to denote off/on state is not really visible under normal room lighting.

i don't like being locked into the mi environment.
plus i'm OCD against the elements of excessive "chinese"-ness, and aqara/mi packaging/products/documentation/app is considered excessive to my eternal disliking.