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simmarjit
post Jul 28 2024, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Jul 27 2024, 04:15 PM)
Thanks for your explaination.

Currently i am not pairing any router with zigbee2mqtt, but used "homekit device" integration to link aqara m2 hub together with all my aqara switch and sensors.
If i were going to pair a sonoff or tuya zigbee compoenent with my HA zigbee2mqtt, will the aqara zigbee network which connected via homekit device extend my zigbee range of zigbee2mqtt to other brand?
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No it wont, but if youre running 2 seperate zigbee networks its probably going to interfere, i suggest selling off the M2 and switch to Z2M fulltime when you do decide to get other brand zigbee stuff until then just continue getting Aqara stuff i guess, i did that. I used to use the M2 with that same integration also, also had Hue hub and then sold all the hubs and just change to Z2M. And regarding not getting certain status usually the homekit integration is the one that will report less stuff.
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post Jul 28 2024, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jul 28 2024, 05:09 PM)
Should I prioritize wall + ethernet for CCTV or just POE?
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What do you mean by that? Any ethernet cable (just get CAT 6/6A) can carry power, the POE portion is sent by yours network switch.
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post Jul 28 2024, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jul 28 2024, 03:41 PM)
Hi all, newbie here to start asking questions - is there something to read up first so I don't re-ask basic things? Doing renovation/extension for sub-sale soon and want to plan out possibility of smart home (initially just on/off control for lighting and cooling). My basic reading so far is to use zigbee rather than wifi (zwave costlier), and it seems there's a few brands mentioned in recent pages (aqara? sonoff?) to investigate. The last time I looked into these things Tuya was the go-to, has that changed?
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Tuya is usually mentioned mainly because its the cheapest and most commonly found.
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post Jul 28 2024, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Jul 28 2024, 03:32 PM)
initially i also wanted to do Z2M. However, after reading the support devices, it seems like zigbee2mqtt support more devices.

However, my first trial of motion sensor failed to get the battery status. Hence ditch that approach at the moment.
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There some of the stuff exposed for some of my devices with Z2M

https://imgur.com/a/GAAJVSP

You can also use this site https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/ to check what is supported and what it exposes.
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post Jul 30 2024, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jul 30 2024, 11:31 AM)
As I understand, POE requires either injector or the switch to support POE. But my (possibly outdated) understanding is also that POE has a slightly higher risk of non-standard components causing devices to fry/burn (because of the increased voltage supplied). If my entire network no POE then theoretically less risk for all the wired devices (but then would need power point for every camera).
Thanks this is helpful. I'm familiar with CCTV which support wifi, as I currently using cheap china device for that (unfortunately the data is cloud-based and calling home to China too, would prefer to move away from that). So for me is option 1 or option 2, I guess as long as aesthetics not an issue option 1 is the most flexible (plus can always be converted to POE later on if the wall socket is needed for something else). Though I think external camera exposed to some splashing from rain maybe POE is safer?
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You need both sides to handshake so its not gonna send more power than the device that asks for it.

With cameras in the rain, the camera is usually screwed into a small box where the wires are all located, with the box being attached to the wall. So rain aint getting it, and you can further weatherproof that. Camera itself aint the issue with the weather its just where the power connects to the camera, as long as that is weatherproofed you should be fine.
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post Jul 30 2024, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(eagle7 @ Jul 30 2024, 10:49 PM)
A random check on the above brands and found many running on congested 2.4GHz band, with a handful on 5GHz band.

Anyone looking for wireless CCTV running on latest technology (e.g. Wi-Fi 6), can add Imou Cruiser Z into your shopping cart.

On the Frigate, I did try to install into my HA on Virtual Machine (VM) but notice the Host CPU usage is at high side. Maybe it more suitable on a dedicated hardware. 

Did you notice your CPU usage become higher too with each camera added?
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So Frigate inside of a HA VM? Not really advisable unless youre allocating a lot of resources to that. Maybe HA in bare metal with Frigate as a container then sure, better to have iGPU support really helps.
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post Aug 22 2024, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Aug 22 2024, 12:47 PM)
hi bro.
I have this aqara d1 3 rocker with neutral.
Connected with z2m, but there is no status report when i press on and off.
Do you have this issue? and how to mitigate it? tried to google, but seems like not resolving.
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What do you mean by that yea? In HA what does it show?

In Z2M this is what mine looks like.

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post Aug 24 2024, 04:37 AM

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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Aug 23 2024, 08:34 AM)
it means that i can't make an automation by pressing on and off my 3 gang switch.

found a solution. need to manually input some value in reporting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zigbee2MQTT/commen...tatus_when_one/

do you know how to set a trigger by pressing both left and center or center and right button in HA? can't find it yet.
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Yea thats me also LUL

No idea about your last question.
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post Aug 24 2024, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Aug 24 2024, 04:30 PM)
for the last question.

Aqara app has the option to trigger an automation by pressing 2 button together.
I can't find it in HA. do you have any idea how to set the same stuff up?

Thank you in advance.
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https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/QBKG26LM.html

If not there i dont see how you can
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post Sep 12 2024, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Sep 12 2024, 08:35 PM)
So meaning to say, layman's terms

If I have let's say 40 devices, including a dozen CCTV.
All having good signal coverage.

Creating a mesh will not help at all in improving the device stability. Right?

Or, is it better to doing it as an access point rather than Mesh. Mainly to stability.

I'm asking cos about to buy a same router (used) and the one that came with the Unifi package (X3060Z)

Or better to buy an old router like Tenda AC18 (AC2100) that is able to connect to 50 devices and create it as an Access Point

Thanks in advance
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All wifi CCTV? Damn

Maybe create a SSID with just 2.4GHz for the CCTV put it on different channel. Other devices connect to a new SSID with both 2.4GHz and 5GHz.
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post Oct 13 2024, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Oct 10 2024, 11:31 PM)
hi, want to start a home assistant smart house, any good link for class 101? if possible straight 101 article with zigbee/manner
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Youtube has loads of tutorials. First decide on the always on device you want to have HA on, are you gonna just focus on HA or self hosting other things as well? So that will affect your choice for HA installation. Easiest for sure is HA OS it self rather than in a VM or Container. Then decide a Zigbee coordinator you wanna get, i have the Sonoff Dongle E so that works with zigbee (and technically it can also do thread but my setup its zigbee only). Tbh everything is on youtube, like people showing you how to install what devices to get, how to pair devices ideally etc.

Just so happens one of the creators i do watch uploaded a guide recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4gvkmJ8q48

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post Oct 14 2024, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Oct 14 2024, 02:42 PM)
1) is there any better/higher specs alternative to Home Assistant Green device to start with?
which again a ready made product... i dont want to build raspberry pi myself.

2) since i start a new smart home, reading matter over thread is the latest n better tech than Zigbee.
so is it okay if i dont want buy Sonoff Dongle E? can i have a better dongle or thing that can have cover Matter over Thread + Zigbee + Zwave etc? (is all have devices exist?)

3) i am looking for 101 article to explain who contol what (the theory).
HA Green is act as what role, what different in role with Alexa Echo 4th Gen ?
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1. You can use any cheap mini PC (old intel NUCs etc), people aim for power efficiency here since its 24/7 on.

2. Thread is not really "better" than Zigbee, its pretty much the same BUT they are trying to standardize with Matter. The thing is those are all radio waves, so usually there isnt any device that has compatibility for all types of protocols. You will see way more Zigbee products on the market hence why i would still recommend them, and since HA is what youre interested in, shouldnt even really care about "matter" because HA accepts pretty much everything. There are devices that do both thread and zigbee (Dongle E) again a thing to consider is that, you should commit to one over the other, your dongle sends and receives data but your devices like switches bulbs relays or whatever youre planning on getting need to also relay the signal to the next device and so on. Zwave pretty much forget about it larh, MY market penetration is super low and devices are usually much more expensive.

3. HA (ignore "Green" thats just the physical device) is the brains of everything, everything should go to it and if you want to use other platforms, it should come out from it. So my case, i have HA, everything goes into it, zigbee wifi stuff, energy meter readings etc BUT i use Homekit Home app to interface with the switches, so i set it up on HA to bridge stuff into Homekit. I have also done the same for Alexa because i have their speakers just for announcements but i bridges the switches etc there as well just in case someone wants to say Alexa turn on this or whatever. So usually Echo is supposed to be the brains of an Alexa home (with Amazon cloud doing heavy lifting) BUT in homes of people that have HA, its merely a device to interface with the switches or devices that are already in HA if you get what i mean.

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post Oct 18 2024, 03:44 AM

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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Oct 17 2024, 11:24 PM)
okay, now i am more clearer to start for HA in my new house reno. continue my questions:

1) Starter pack for the brain HA, what is the good mini pc you can suggest?
mini pc which i think most energy saving is running on arm based?
but articles said better HA do with x86 based. is that true?
again i dont mind to buy a new mini pc, no need to buy old pc or 2nd hand pc, as long as it can save 5star energy savings and stable will do, since need to on at 24/7.
my help here is can you suggest maybe 1 or 2 or just paste a shopee link here i will buy it!

2) ok, ques#1 above will settle for brain. now the second is dongle E.
is Dongle E is the best that cover most protocols?
i dont mind if spend more for dongle, as 1 usb slot on mini pc can settle all my near future worries on signals, where i havent decide my switches, cameras, sensor signal type yet.
what im asking help here is just suggest me maybe 1 or 2 that can cover "everything's dongle".
if Dongle E is the best, then i will buy it.

3) ok, i confused with alexa echo earlier. now i know it is also a brain not speaker interface.
so if i want to build a fully offline brain.
what speaker can you recommend? echo will be overpriced if i am not using it online mode, right?

4) i am not apple user, so big no to homekit.
i am using Samsung handphone for the past decades.
so i need to focus on what interface or plateform? can you name it so i can read it or google it?

5) why you mention thread is not any better than zigbee?
can you explain more? again im a newbie and open to learn
of course, to help ppl around after i success build my 1st smart home

6) stupid ques: im stay in condo, let say neighbour got HA also with zigbee, can neigbour add my zigbee switches to their HA and control them?
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1. Any cheap mini PC will do, Intel Nuc or those Lenovo Dell HP low powered PCs, you can look up their power usage online.
2. A lot of people do use Sonoff Dongle P and Dongle E. Idk about best but a lot of people also recommend "SMLIGHT Zigbee 3.0 to Ethernet, USB, and WiFi Adapter with PoE Support".
3. For me Echo is still good value unless you want to build something on your own.
4. Homekit was just an example, you can replace that with any other platform also Samsung SmartThings, Google Home, Alexa etc. You dont have to use any of them if you dont want.
5. I said that because most of the stuff still sold online is zigbee and wifi based, thread still hasnt been quickly adopted by the masses.
6. Thread Zigbee etc is like your wifi, you are connected to your router only (your Sonoff Dongle or whatever you use).


Like i said larh, everything is online easy to find, all this info aint obscure
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post Nov 15 2024, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Nov 13 2024, 12:50 AM)
1)if buying all aqara devices, if after power trip, the device need add and rules/automation need to re-setup?
2) just asking, i see taobao aqara switches/lighting are cheaper and more models/variances, can i buy? it can connect to local aqara hub? will it have delay?
i heard there is china version and global version? if so, how do we differentiate that?

i plan to buy from taobao china for this and use here, can connect to malaysia M3 hub?
i want to use aqara app or HA in future, dont want use homekit (not apple user).
http://e.tb.cn/h.T0fDJAwAdxJdBHn?tk=X0N03rfwgR5
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For number one usually wont really ever need to repair larh eventually they will get back onto the zigbee mesh on their own.

And zigbee is local, so as long as youre using either Home Assistant or Homekit to interface with the devices there should be no lag at all. But if youre using the Aqara Home app then only the region might come into play. Most of my Aqara stuff are from China, back when i was using the M2 hub i did use the CN region to set up everything.
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post Nov 15 2024, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Nov 13 2024, 11:25 PM)
Lets say i buy Aqara M3, i see M3 has Matter support, can i buy other brand switches with Matter such as OEM Tuya? can this other brand matter switches connect to Aqara M3 and appear in Aqara Home/SmartThings app?
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the matter support is for it to be adopted to other platforms not other stuff into it if you get what i am saying.
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Nov 16 2024, 02:33 PM)
anyone covert their analog doorbell to smart?
mine one recently the outdoor button broken.
thinking to upgrade it.

preferred to use the existing 220v wiring and no to battery.

any ideas are welcome, including diy esp.
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I am using a zigbee doorbell sensor and it works well.
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post Nov 18 2024, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Nov 17 2024, 03:25 PM)
man... i did a simple search on aliexpress.
rm58 only. complete set with video and got buildin battery.

MYR58.19 | Tuya Doorbell With Camera Wireless
https://a.aliexpress.com/_oCSboip

compared to my current dumb doorbell switch box, rm20

i felt than i'm stupid if i were to follow my existing plan.
the only cons... i need to charge every few month.
Should i take this?
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That looks more suitable for apartment style where its not exposed to the elements, mine is zigbee doorbell sensor that senses the button press of a traditional doorbell.
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post Nov 19 2024, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(epicure @ Nov 19 2024, 08:54 AM)
Hi there can share brand model and link ? Is it the Sage one ? If so, does it need its own hub ?

I'm currently using the outdoor dumb doorbell button wired to a door sensor (ZigBee). Works well with automation, can ring my tuya ZigBee siren, homepods and Google home minis, and Imou cameras (via Ffmpeg)

But always curious to learn more, especially if it's ZigBee and designed for doorbells
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Yep sage one, works with Z2M and HA. I had some extra units which i did list on carousell, did sell one to HA FB user, works for his setup as well.
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post Nov 20 2024, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(epicure @ Nov 19 2024, 11:25 AM)
Ahh I saw your advert. But I don't have a sage hub and I also don't use z2m and ha. If only tuya made one. But ill just continue with my door sensor setup for now first.
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I think the product is actually discontinued, no point getting a hub that was specific to that. For Z2M ZHA users this is an option if wanna use traditional doorbell.
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post Nov 23 2024, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Nov 22 2024, 09:55 PM)
Just had a look at some matter thread relays/switch and apparently now support matter binding, relay decoupling and switch multi press.
From customer feedback seems to be mostly on the homekit side, anyone tried on other platform if relay detach/multi press option is available?

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https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.htm....47#modal=share
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Those are very leceh yea sometimes you wont have enough space in the box to fit that, or fit multiple, and if for some reason you need to reset it ....pain in the ass larh open up everything again.

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