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Oltromen Ripot
post Sep 6 2022, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 6 2022, 05:36 PM)
I’m aware of that
On esphome/tasmota you can still put some rules/automation that would still run independently.
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LOL...
Maxis router can reset through MyMaxis.
M9 mesh can reset through Deco app.
but if the internet is out, none can reset.

Probably then will need to have wifi plug connected to B618 on 4G network. While the rest of devices remain on fibre.

What a messy High-Availability (HA) of a Home Automation (HA) for a Holiday Accomodation (HA).
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post Sep 6 2022, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 6 2022, 05:36 PM)
I’m aware of that
On esphome/tasmota you can still put some rules/automation that would still run independently.
I think better option is zigbee plug, even wifi is off the zigbee network still up and continue to run automation
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Eh, the multi-mode Zigbee hub no need to get signal from internet to switch the plug back on after a delay?
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post Sep 7 2022, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 6 2022, 05:36 PM)
On esphome/tasmota you can still put some rules/automation that would still run independently.
I think better option is zigbee plug, even wifi is off the zigbee network still up and continue to run automation
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Change of plan. I bought 1 wifi power extension, 1 wifi socket, and 1 cheapo USB-LTE-WIFI as failover.

Home automation hub, alarm, and a USB-LTE-WIFI will load on wifi power extension. The individual socket will be managed individually through primary fibre wifi.

BTU and base wifi router will load on wifi socket + extension. The fibre devices can then be rebooted as a set through the LTE wifi.

All will pass through AVR and UPS.
The main wifi mesh for daily use will not be on UPS. No point waste UPS capacity during blackouts.
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post Sep 8 2022, 10:46 PM

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Zigbee/Wifi water heater switch 20A and 30A must use neutral wire? cannot use capacitor?
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post Sep 9 2022, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 9 2022, 09:20 AM)
Well, the heater power switch for any home comes with N already what. Standard  smile.gif
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Not at the switch side..... arrrghhh why didn't i know of these switches BEFORE renovate....
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post Sep 9 2022, 10:06 AM

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post Sep 9 2022, 11:08 AM

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post Sep 11 2022, 05:47 PM

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post Sep 14 2022, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(wiind @ Sep 13 2022, 11:47 PM)
So my thinking is right, I’ll have to squeeze 3 live wires to the little L terminal on Aqara switch, I wonder if there is a way to join them into one single wire before connecting it to the terminal?
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If it's me, i'll buy the largest terminal block from electrical supply store, join the 3 to 1 side of the terminal, and on the other terminal's end just a single wire to the L of switch.

Of course, you will need to also buy a matching thick wire for the single wire on the other end.
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post Sep 14 2022, 01:41 PM

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Guys, this sort of multi-gang wall switches (max 10A).
I'm looking at 1 gang, 2 gang, 3 gang, 4 gang, probably 6 gang as well.

Assuming I will be able to pull neutral to the switch.
Are they able to handle 1 ceiling fan as well? say, on L1 or L2?

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post Sep 14 2022, 02:58 PM

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You know how it is usually craped inside wall.
How's the inside behind the switch? Still can fit with all the wires? Or will I need those bracket thing to lift up and make room?

QUOTE(cablesguy @ Sep 14 2022, 02:06 PM)
Mine running ceiling fan since 3/4 years, no issues. Fan on L2 running 3 gang.
Hope this helps.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 14 2022, 02:29 PM)
Ceiling fan is low power device. Mostly around 50~70W only for old model. New one with DC motor even less than 40W.
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post Sep 15 2022, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Sep 15 2022, 02:41 PM)
smart switches currently i see max 4 gangs only..  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 15 2022, 03:37 PM)
So far only spotted 6 gang sold by korean smart home maker
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yesterday - after much staring contest at research into those 6-gang switches on offer - i realised that those are called "brazil" switches, and the size is 120mm as opposed to our standard 86mm.

so they are no-go.
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post Sep 15 2022, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Sep 15 2022, 02:41 PM)
and another one, zigbee UK smart plug (ewelink compatible).. this bought wrongly.. didnt notice the its Zigbee version..  sweat.gif
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apart from zigbee/wifi and ewelink/tuya; did you pay attention to the amperage of such socket when you buy?

i'm looking at my first wall socket in anticipation of installing fridge. the current plain socket is to be in rear and will no longer be accessible afterward, so i want to get it settled even before the rest.

what a pain to find that everyone were selling UK 3-pin for only 10A. not fond of the round one like yours as then i will waste too much space between fridge and wall with another layer of belkin surge protector.
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post Sep 16 2022, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Sep 16 2022, 10:29 AM)
Yes. I know its 10A. As supposed to use with low power devices.
Btw 10A actually is a plenty.. 2200W capable.
But miss the zigbee version.. too many things in 'cart' i guess . Haha . šŸ˜†

Btw, y u need smart switch at fridge? That appliance is one of the switch ON and never OFF (unless maintenance or such) šŸ¤”
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I'm OCD about having everything the same; so either all socket or none 😤

start with the one that i cannot touch ever again.

and it's OCD fascinated to be able to see electrical stats appearing on my 30A switches for water heater. the one on right, for size comparison.
the 16A socket that i am waiting delivery of is supposedly capable of generating stats as well. it would be better within monitoring socket than having to install additional switches.

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post Sep 17 2022, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Sep 16 2022, 05:29 PM)
OCD fascinated to be able to see electrical stats appearing on my 30A switches for water heater. the one on right, for size comparison.

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finally the water heater arrived.

Idle, Low, Mid, Hi, with DC pump on max:
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Alpha v10i, with a very noisy pump no different than AC, supposedly rated max 3.6kWh....
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post Sep 22 2022, 01:48 PM

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Most of the smart socket (wall-side) have 13A squarish pinholes. I only see 1 that offer 16A wall socket , but it is still squarish pinholes.

While plug-side, for 13A is squarish pins, and for 15A is roundish pins.

Can I just replace the 13A fuse inside those 13A plugs with 15A fuse? So that I can use those 16A wall socket with squarish pinholes with modded 15A squarish pin plugs

for aircond.
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post Sep 22 2022, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 22 2022, 02:13 PM)
It is not about the shape but the square pin is rated at 13A because it is the amperage that it is designed to handle. So, if you use higher load, the plug top will get hot and possible get that burnt smell and perhaps damage the socket and plug over time.

Note that the round 15A plug has bigger pin too I believe.
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Yes, the roundish pin is larger than the squarish pin.

I see. So it's not a rating applied because of the fuse it contains.

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post Sep 24 2022, 07:33 PM

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Note-to-self:

Malaysian base plates are not deep enought to hole smart sockets.

Tested 5mm gap on an empty baseplate, without wiring behind.

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post Sep 26 2022, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 24 2022, 08:56 PM)
Yeah, need to dig deeper or just print those 10mm spacer from thingverse
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QUOTE(Max @ Sep 26 2022, 10:25 AM)
yep. but those white base is for surface mount.
inside wall usually the black one (abit softer plastic, can use normal long sharp screw).
mine luckily the box is deep enough to fit in NS & M5Ā  biggrin.gif

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developer used common baseplate embedded into the wall leh.

as @alucard89 wrote: need to order those spacer.
so far only found 15mm ones, not yet found 20mm or deeper.

would prefer deeper than 15mm for practicality; some of the wall even have gangs of 3 and 4, so I can already imagine the thick mess behind them even before opening.

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