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post Dec 21 2017, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Dec 20 2017, 05:33 PM)
Yes, Aqara wall switch can work with smartthings, I don't have one but planning to get it to replace my spoiled broadlink TC2 switch.
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can it retrofit the 86 socket? and would you know what are the lines that needs to be connected?

on another note, need some advice from you guys here
1. where is the best place (read cheap) to buy Raspberry Pi 3 model B + Power Supply , found this inshopee is the price ok? brows.gif
2. would you recommend to add fan or heatsink if im going to use for HA
3. is it necessary to use power supply connected from wall or can i power it by other means, i.e via usb

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post Dec 21 2017, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(mixologist84 @ Dec 21 2017, 04:44 PM)
can it retrofit the 86 socket? and would you know what are the lines that needs to be connected?

on another note, need some advice from you guys here
1. where is the best place (read cheap) to buy Raspberry Pi 3 model B + Power Supply , found this inshopee is the price ok? brows.gif
2. would you recommend to add fan or heatsink if im going to use for HA
3. is it necessary to use power supply connected from wall or can i power it by other means, i.e via usb
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1) taobao's around rm130, there's also cytron. Maybe you could consider getting the rpi zero w that's cheaper if you just wanna use it for ha.
2) probaly not, I've been using my rpi2 for a while without any heatsink or case and it still works fine
3) not necessary from wall, any usb power outlet will do
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post Dec 21 2017, 08:11 PM

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I need a 3 gang wall switch. Aqara only max 2 gang
How to settle?
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post Dec 21 2017, 08:40 PM

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visit to iTead Sonoff factory



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post Dec 22 2017, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 21 2017, 08:40 PM)
visit to iTead Sonoff factory


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Eh... Nothing special about the factory for me. Use to see this kind factory till sian.

You must go that electronic place if you visit Shenzhen or HK.

Last time, every weekend is in there whole day.


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post Dec 22 2017, 07:20 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 22 2017, 12:58 AM)
Eh... Nothing special about the factory for me. Use to see this kind factory till sian.

You must go that electronic place if you visit Shenzhen or HK.

Last time, every weekend is in there whole day.
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got buy anything? sometimes too many things also see until "ngan far" rclxub.gif
too overwhelming
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post Dec 22 2017, 07:24 AM

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post Dec 22 2017, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 21 2017, 08:11 PM)
I need a 3 gang wall switch. Aqara only max 2 gang
How to settle?
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Try getting this one and use capacitor so you don't need neutral wire

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09...._u=m2avq0do3393

At least until xiaomi release 3/4 gang version which doesn't seem to be likely anytime soon

QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 22 2017, 07:24 AM)
smart home sifu's. planning on getting these - my first smart system.
this is what i feel
- zwave good and plenty of devices but on the expensive side
- zigbee - a bit cheaper and with Xiaomi in the game, lagi cheaper and more affordable

so i think i will start off with a xiaomi set first. Only thing is Im banana and Xiaomi no play with Google Home. Gonna add in a Samsung Smartthings hub (just so Google Home can work) later on but still cant decide to get US or UK type. Can the same sensor and switch connect to two hubs, in this case, both Xiaomi and Samsung?

My needs are very simple as follows - please give your opinion and suggestions - thanks in advance
Gonna probably buy from Gearbest

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Like kiding said, just go with US set because UK is just way more expensive unless you wanna use uk z-wave devices
I think the sensors only connect with one hub after pairing.
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post Dec 22 2017, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 22 2017, 07:20 AM)
got buy anything? sometimes too many things also see until "ngan far"  rclxub.gif
too overwhelming
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True. Too many thing till you don’t no what to buy. End up see girl only.

Did brought some solar panel which is freaking cheap.
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post Dec 22 2017, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Dec 22 2017, 09:04 AM)
Try getting this one and use capacitor so you don't need neutral wire

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09...._u=m2avq0do3393

At least until xiaomi release 3/4 gang version which doesn't seem to be likely anytime soon
Like kiding said, just go with US set because UK is just way more expensive unless you wanna use uk z-wave devices
I think the sensors only connect with one hub after pairing.
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sked kena sirim and tax again.... sweat.gif
i think in the end, have to change whole house power socket to China/US type laugh.gif

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post Dec 22 2017, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Dec 22 2017, 09:04 AM)
Try getting this one and use capacitor so you don't need neutral wire

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09...._u=m2avq0do3393

At least until xiaomi release 3/4 gang version which doesn't seem to be likely anytime soon
Like kiding said, just go with US set because UK is just way more expensive unless you wanna use uk z-wave devices
I think the sensors only connect with one hub after pairing.
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I have two 3 gang at my house. One of them I can solve because got two switches side by side - 2 gang and 3 gang but I only using 4 of the switches. I just opened it up and wires can pass thru both boxes so that means I can put 2 Aqara 2 gang and kautim that area

The other 3 gang switch - I think what I will do is use one Sonoff Basic for one of the switch (that means always On)
The other 2 switches, use a 2 gang Aqara. Actually I can put in those require Neutral as well cause beside this switch has a 3 pin socket so I can tap from there but I prefer to use all the same switches - not rojak. I hate glass touch panels anway

Why they dont make 3 gang? dry.gif

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post Dec 22 2017, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 22 2017, 09:44 AM)
I have two 3 gang at my house. One of them I can solve because got two switches side by side - 2 gang and 3 gang but I only using 4 of the switches. I just opened it up and wires can pass thru both boxes so that means I can put 2 Aqara 2 gang and kautim that area

The other 3 gang switch - I think what I will do is use one Sonoff Basic for one of the switch (that means always On)
The other 2 switches, use a 2 gang Aqara. Actually I can put in those require Neutral as well cause beside this switch has a 3 pin socket so I can tap from there but I prefer to use all the same switches - not rojak. I hate glass touch panels anway

Why they dont make 3 gang?  dry.gif
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Don't worry about sirim/tax for items from china,
The only time I got taxed was when customs has strict check 7 months ago, and my item value >rm500

Seems to be the case with z-wave/zigbee switch, none of the manufacturer produce >3 gang versions

Oh, and if you don't like the glass touch panels
Check out this one

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1...de-a80ba1b200c7

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post Dec 22 2017, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Dec 22 2017, 09:59 AM)
Don't worry about sirim/tax for items from china,
The only time I got taxed was when customs has strict check 7 months ago, and my item value >rm500

Seems to be the case with z-wave/zigbee switch, none of the manufacturer produce >3 gang versions

Oh, and if you don't like the glass touch panels
Check out this one

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1...de-a80ba1b200c7
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yes i not sked from china but from amazon
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post Dec 22 2017, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Dec 20 2017, 05:17 PM)
It's actually easier than it sounds. Once you add gateway hub into home assistant, all the aqara sensors/switch connected will be listed.
Then can start customize automation with google assistant

Kiding
Can you add aqara wall switch to smartthings?
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Just for clarity on this point "Once you add gateway hub into home assistant".
Do you mean this configuration will end up with 2 hubs? One which is the Xiaomi gateway, another the HA server (which can be a smartthing hub / raspberry pi etc)?

Also, are there any delays when issuing a voice command until the actual action happens? I remember seeing a video shared here, and there seemed to be a 5 seconds delay until the light / fan turns on/off.
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post Dec 24 2017, 11:38 AM

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Hi guys, has anyone used broadlink s1 or s2 home security? Noy much luck finding info pn s2
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post Dec 24 2017, 12:26 PM

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Just ordered the Xiaomi Gateway from gearbest. Hope they send me the version 2. Didn’t buy the kit as I dun need some items.

Actually what’s the difference between the version 1 & 2?

What’s the difference between -
1. Square and round temp and humidity sensor? Are they both zigbee?
2. Rounded and square edges door/window sensor?
3. Body motion sensor with mounting stand and without?
Very confusing.
Even wireless switches got 3 different kinds. Dunno what’s the difference 😅

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post Dec 24 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(WIS9000 @ Dec 22 2017, 10:39 AM)
Just for clarity on this point "Once you add gateway hub into home assistant".
Do you mean this configuration will end up with 2 hubs? One which is the Xiaomi gateway, another the HA server (which can be a smartthing hub / raspberry pi etc)?

Also, are there any delays when issuing a voice command until the actual action happens? I remember seeing a video shared here, and there seemed to be a 5 seconds delay until the light / fan turns on/off.
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Yeah, there's gonna be 2

xiaomi sensor -> xiaomi gateway -> ha

So can still monitor thru the mi home app

For smarthings hub, i think the xiaomi sensors directly connect to that, bypass gateway

For me, it's pretty instant, depends on your network connection too
Since google home/echo still needs to connect the servers first, then execute action
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post Dec 24 2017, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 24 2017, 12:26 PM)
Just ordered the Xiaomi Gateway from gearbest. Hope they send me the version 2. Didn’t buy the kit as I dun need some items.

Actually what’s the difference between the version 1 & 2?

What’s the difference between -
1. Square and round temp and humidity sensor? Are they both zigbee?
2. Rounded and square edges door/window sensor?
3. Body motion sensor with mounting stand and without?
Very confusing.
Even wireless switches got 3 different kinds. Dunno what’s the difference 😅
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If use with HA, only version 2 (with fm radio) can pair with, version 1 cannot

1,2 - Same zigbee I guess, just newer models
3 - Newer motion sensor got light sensor now (also, this one only pairs with Gateway version 2)

Don't have the newer switches, so far only the old ones can use with ha and customize other actions.

You got your SHERlock lock yet?

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post Dec 24 2017, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Dec 24 2017, 12:38 PM)
If use with HA, only version 2 (with fm radio) can pair with, version 1 cannot

1,2 - Same zigbee I guess, just newer models
3 - Newer motion sensor got light sensor now (also, this one only pairs with Gateway version 2)

Don't have the newer switches, so far only the old ones can use with ha and customize other actions.

You got your SHERlock lock yet?
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Huh which is old which is new switches?
What is this HA?

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 24 2017, 12:40 PM)
Huh which is old which is new switches?
What is this HA?
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Were you talking about aqara wireless or the button switch?
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