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alucard89
post Nov 11 2024, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Nov 11 2024, 01:22 PM)
i see Aqara switches label with "matter over zigbee bridge", this mean this switches can support and create mesh for both Matter and Zigbee?
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No, still for zigbee mesh only
Needs thread for matter
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post Nov 11 2024, 02:07 PM

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Just checking with Sifu in here

I'm using mostly Sonoff ZigBee devices connection with Ewelink for my mother's house.

After a TNB black out of example 2 hours, some devices go offline and some completely disappear
A simple off/on will not make it online back again.

Need to go through setup. Not all the devices but some. And each power outrage, not the same device gets offline. A bit of hassle to setup again.

If it for Tuya also same? Cos I want to built another system using Tuya

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post Nov 11 2024, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Nov 11 2024, 02:07 PM)
Just checking with Sifu in here

I'm using mostly Sonoff ZigBee devices connection with Ewelink for my mother's house.

After a TNB black out of example 2 hours, some devices go offline and some completely disappear
A simple off/on will not make it online back again.

Need to go through setup. Not all the devices but some. And each power outrage, not the same device gets offline. A bit of hassle to setup again.

If it for Tuya also same?  Cos I want to built another system using Tuya
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I think that’s what I dislike about zigbee in general, if your powered zigbee devices (not battery ones) get reset because of power outage and you have to re-setup all over again.

That doesn’t happen with wifi devices running custom firmware like esphome because the wifi credentials/settings are compiled in the firmware

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post Nov 12 2024, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Nov 11 2024, 01:32 PM)
No, still for zigbee mesh only
Needs thread for matter
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why it label matter there?
what is has in additional to those aqara switches labelled just zigbee
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post Nov 12 2024, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Nov 12 2024, 04:46 PM)
why it label matter there?
what is has in additional to those aqara switches labelled just zigbee
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Basically it’s not a native matter devices

Aqara switch —(zigbee)—> Aqara hub —(matter)—> other platform (homekit, alexa, smart thing)

There are some matter over thread switches out there, just slightly expensive

https://sg.world.taobao.com/item/800635741093.htm

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post Yesterday, 12:50 AM

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1)if buying all aqara devices, if after power trip, the device need add and rules/automation need to re-setup?
2) just asking, i see taobao aqara switches/lighting are cheaper and more models/variances, can i buy? it can connect to local aqara hub? will it have delay?
i heard there is china version and global version? if so, how do we differentiate that?

i plan to buy from taobao china for this and use here, can connect to malaysia M3 hub?
i want to use aqara app or HA in future, dont want use homekit (not apple user).
http://e.tb.cn/h.T0fDJAwAdxJdBHn?tk=X0N03rfwgR5

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post Yesterday, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Nov 13 2024, 12:50 AM)
1)if buying all aqara devices, if after power trip, the device need add and rules/automation need to re-setup?
2) just asking, i see taobao aqara switches/lighting are cheaper and more models/variances, can i buy? it can connect to local aqara hub? will it have delay?
i heard there is china version and global version? if so, how do we differentiate that?

i plan to buy from taobao china for this and use here, can connect to malaysia M3 hub?
i want to use aqara app or HA in future, dont want use homekit (not apple user).
http://e.tb.cn/h.T0fDJAwAdxJdBHn?tk=X0N03rfwgR5
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If the devices did get reset after power trip, you'd need to pair it again manually, no automation can help with that.
But that rarely happens though, since most devices need several power cuts like 4x - 3x consecutively to get reset
You can still use china version with the hub, just need to switch region in the setting.
With HA, don't have to worry about china/global version, any zigbee devices regardless of brand can pair.

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post Yesterday, 10:10 PM

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zigbee --> aqara/tuya
xiaomi --> bluetooth
wifi --> sonoff
matter --> any brand that have varies devices? the link u show previously macam no brand device
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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Nov 13 2024, 10:10 PM)
zigbee --> aqara/tuya
xiaomi --> bluetooth
wifi --> sonoff
matter --> any brand that have varies devices? the link u show previously macam no brand device
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Each brand got their own wifi/bt/zigbee devices
They’re just not in a rush to release matter over thread devices
The link i shared earlier is from tuya oem
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post Yesterday, 11:25 PM

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Lets say i buy Aqara M3, i see M3 has Matter support, can i buy other brand switches with Matter such as OEM Tuya? can this other brand matter switches connect to Aqara M3 and appear in Aqara Home/SmartThings app?
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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Nov 13 2024, 11:25 PM)
Lets say i buy Aqara M3, i see M3 has Matter support, can i buy other brand switches with Matter such as OEM Tuya? can this other brand matter switches connect to Aqara M3 and appear in Aqara Home/SmartThings app?
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matter and thread are still at infancy state, if you dont want troublesome, stick to popular zigbee/wifi/bluetooth devices
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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Nov 13 2024, 11:25 PM)
Lets say i buy Aqara M3, i see M3 has Matter support, can i buy other brand switches with Matter such as OEM Tuya? can this other brand matter switches connect to Aqara M3 and appear in Aqara Home/SmartThings app?
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Theoretically, yes, if the Tuya switches are properly Matter-certified and your hub (Aqara Home/SmartThings) supports Matter. But in practice, cross-brand compatibility with Matter is still a bit of a wild west. You might run into quirks or limitations.

 

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