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wailing81
post Jul 27 2024, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 26 2024, 10:04 PM)
All routers will extend the range, so lets say you have an Aqara switch that will extend it, your motion sensor is an end device, its not a router so it wont extend it regardless of youre using the sonoff or your Aqara hub. If using Z2M way, pair all the routers first (switches) then only pair the end devices, and i would recommend pairing the end device to a nearby switch/router rather than coordinator, Aqara sensors pair best with Aqara switches.
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Thanks for your explaination.

Currently i am not pairing any router with zigbee2mqtt, but used "homekit device" integration to link aqara m2 hub together with all my aqara switch and sensors.
If i were going to pair a sonoff or tuya zigbee compoenent with my HA zigbee2mqtt, will the aqara zigbee network which connected via homekit device extend my zigbee range of zigbee2mqtt to other brand?
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post Jul 27 2024, 05:06 PM

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Finished adding wifi direct control to all my ac, not relying on ir this time.
All you need is esp8266 with some jst cable & connect to port on your ac pcb (check your diagram)
You can add this to your homebridge and ha. Total cost is around rm12-14 per ac

Daikin (cn_wir port)

Jst cable 2.0
https://my.shp.ee/ZYRNff2

Faikin
https://github.com/Sonic-Amiga/ESP8266-Faikin

Wiring - cn_wir port specifically because it’s scattered in the github repo. If yours is built in wifi module model just remove that cable from the port.

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Mitsubishi Electric (cn105 port)

PAP jst cable
https://my.shp.ee/vwE85Ut

Mitsubishi2mqtt
https://github.com/dzungpv/mitsubishi2MQTT

For tuya, you can order this module from thailand
https://shopee.co.th/product/27525505


And that’s it, should save you 500 from sensibo or other devices. Obviously daikin has their own app, but not exactly open source. And mitsubishi electric has kumo cloud but they don’t exactly use it here. For other brands, you can just google it, i noticed panasonic, midea, haier has non cloud esp solution.


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post Jul 27 2024, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jul 27 2024, 05:06 PM)
Finished adding wifi direct control to all my ac, not relying on ir this time.
All you need is esp8266 with some jst cable & connect to port on your ac pcb (check your diagram)
You can add this to your homebridge and ha. Total cost is around rm12-14 per ac

Daikin (cn_wir port)

Jst cable 2.0
https://my.shp.ee/ZYRNff2

Faikin
https://github.com/Sonic-Amiga/ESP8266-Faikin

Wiring - cn_wir port specifically because it’s scattered in the github repo. If yours is built in wifi module model just remove that cable from the port.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Mitsubishi Electric (cn105 port)

PAP jst cable
https://my.shp.ee/vwE85Ut

Mitsubishi2mqtt
https://github.com/dzungpv/mitsubishi2MQTT

For tuya, you can order this module from thailand
https://shopee.co.th/product/27525505
And that’s it, should save you 500 from sensibo or other devices. Obviously daikin has their own app, but not exactly open source. And mitsubishi electric has kumo cloud but they don’t exactly use it here. For other brands, you can just google it, i noticed panasonic, midea, haier has non cloud esp solution.
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any special features u planned to configure?
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post Jul 27 2024, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jul 27 2024, 05:06 PM)
Finished adding wifi direct control to all my ac, not relying on ir this time.
All you need is esp8266 with some jst cable & connect to port on your ac pcb (check your diagram)
You can add this to your homebridge and ha. Total cost is around rm12-14 per ac

Daikin (cn_wir port)

Jst cable 2.0
https://my.shp.ee/ZYRNff2

Faikin
https://github.com/Sonic-Amiga/ESP8266-Faikin

Wiring - cn_wir port specifically because it’s scattered in the github repo. If yours is built in wifi module model just remove that cable from the port.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Mitsubishi Electric (cn105 port)

PAP jst cable
https://my.shp.ee/vwE85Ut

Mitsubishi2mqtt
https://github.com/dzungpv/mitsubishi2MQTT

For tuya, you can order this module from thailand
https://shopee.co.th/product/27525505
And that’s it, should save you 500 from sensibo or other devices. Obviously daikin has their own app, but not exactly open source. And mitsubishi electric has kumo cloud but they don’t exactly use it here. For other brands, you can just google it, i noticed panasonic, midea, haier has non cloud esp solution.
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Check out this project, which uses the ESP-01M module, which can be purchased for around RM20. It can transmit and receive AC signals directly from the AC's board, such as ambient temperature, cooling temperature, operation mode, speed, etc.


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post Jul 27 2024, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jul 27 2024, 06:15 PM)
any special features u planned to configure?
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Not really, i keep getting inverted command on/off with tasmota if someone used the physical remote for daikin.
Googled around and apparently there’s already a project that utilizes the cn_wir port for direct control, and problem solved.
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QUOTE(eagle7 @ Jul 27 2024, 06:46 PM)
Check out this project, which uses the ESP-01M module, which can be purchased for around RM20. It can transmit and receive AC signals directly from the AC's board, such as ambient temperature, cooling temperature, operation mode, speed, etc.
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I’ve ditched this because of an inverted command issue that i had since my ac uses daikin64 ir protocol
So basically
Direct ac control >> Ir control
Plus you get the actual state of the ac

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simmarjit
post Jul 28 2024, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Jul 27 2024, 04:15 PM)
Thanks for your explaination.

Currently i am not pairing any router with zigbee2mqtt, but used "homekit device" integration to link aqara m2 hub together with all my aqara switch and sensors.
If i were going to pair a sonoff or tuya zigbee compoenent with my HA zigbee2mqtt, will the aqara zigbee network which connected via homekit device extend my zigbee range of zigbee2mqtt to other brand?
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No it wont, but if youre running 2 seperate zigbee networks its probably going to interfere, i suggest selling off the M2 and switch to Z2M fulltime when you do decide to get other brand zigbee stuff until then just continue getting Aqara stuff i guess, i did that. I used to use the M2 with that same integration also, also had Hue hub and then sold all the hubs and just change to Z2M. And regarding not getting certain status usually the homekit integration is the one that will report less stuff.
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post Jul 28 2024, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 28 2024, 01:30 AM)
No it wont, but if youre running 2 seperate zigbee networks its probably going to interfere, i suggest selling off the M2 and switch to Z2M fulltime when you do decide to get other brand zigbee stuff until then just continue getting Aqara stuff i guess, i did that. I used to use the M2 with that same integration also, also had Hue hub and then sold all the hubs and just change to Z2M. And regarding not getting certain status usually the homekit integration is the one that will report less stuff.
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initially i also wanted to do Z2M. However, after reading the support devices, it seems like zigbee2mqtt support more devices.

However, my first trial of motion sensor failed to get the battery status. Hence ditch that approach at the moment.
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post Jul 28 2024, 03:41 PM

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Hi all, newbie here to start asking questions - is there something to read up first so I don't re-ask basic things? Doing renovation/extension for sub-sale soon and want to plan out possibility of smart home (initially just on/off control for lighting and cooling). My basic reading so far is to use zigbee rather than wifi (zwave costlier), and it seems there's a few brands mentioned in recent pages (aqara? sonoff?) to investigate. The last time I looked into these things Tuya was the go-to, has that changed?
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jul 28 2024, 03:41 PM)
Hi all, newbie here to start asking questions - is there something to read up first so I don't re-ask basic things? Doing renovation/extension for sub-sale soon and want to plan out possibility of smart home (initially just on/off control for lighting and cooling). My basic reading so far is to use zigbee rather than wifi (zwave costlier), and it seems there's a few brands mentioned in recent pages (aqara? sonoff?) to investigate. The last time I looked into these things Tuya was the go-to, has that changed?
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For me, if want to plan to renovate, all wall switches must have a neutral incoming. When future when you want to put a smart wall switches, no need those capacitor no neutral type.

And a wall plug socket for CCTV positions even for the outside, some may even use the ethernet for CCTV.

Those are the basics and priority in my opinion.

If you mention Aqara, then should get that brand.
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 28 2024, 04:21 PM)

And a wall plug socket for CCTV positions even for the outside, some may even use the ethernet for CCTV.
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Should I prioritize wall + ethernet for CCTV or just POE?
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jul 28 2024, 05:09 PM)
Should I prioritize wall + ethernet for CCTV or just POE?
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I've never tried POE before. But you should get one to try it out.
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post Jul 28 2024, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jul 28 2024, 05:09 PM)
Should I prioritize wall + ethernet for CCTV or just POE?
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What do you mean by that? Any ethernet cable (just get CAT 6/6A) can carry power, the POE portion is sent by yours network switch.
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jul 28 2024, 03:41 PM)
Hi all, newbie here to start asking questions - is there something to read up first so I don't re-ask basic things? Doing renovation/extension for sub-sale soon and want to plan out possibility of smart home (initially just on/off control for lighting and cooling). My basic reading so far is to use zigbee rather than wifi (zwave costlier), and it seems there's a few brands mentioned in recent pages (aqara? sonoff?) to investigate. The last time I looked into these things Tuya was the go-to, has that changed?
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Tuya is usually mentioned mainly because its the cheapest and most commonly found.
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post Jul 28 2024, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Jul 28 2024, 03:32 PM)
initially i also wanted to do Z2M. However, after reading the support devices, it seems like zigbee2mqtt support more devices.

However, my first trial of motion sensor failed to get the battery status. Hence ditch that approach at the moment.
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There some of the stuff exposed for some of my devices with Z2M

https://imgur.com/a/GAAJVSP

You can also use this site https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/ to check what is supported and what it exposes.
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jul 28 2024, 05:09 PM)
Should I prioritize wall + ethernet for CCTV or just POE?
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Don't quite understand, but generally if you have Ethernet then there's PoE already as long the camera supports it and your switch has a power source for it.
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Hi, I am having some issues of pairing my smatrul zig bee switch into my smart life apps and it's seems can't discover the devices

Frist time encountered this issue as previously my other switch all ok or is there any limitations for pairing this ? Currently this is my 7th switch under the same ZigBee hub.

Anyone can help 😥

https://youtube.com/shorts/48XpdshA26s?si=KZpgkrasCspuWifp

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jul 27 2024, 05:06 PM)
Finished adding wifi direct control to all my ac, not relying on ir this time.
All you need is esp8266 with some jst cable & connect to port on your ac pcb (check your diagram)
You can add this to your homebridge and ha. Total cost is around rm12-14 per ac

Daikin (cn_wir port)

Jst cable 2.0
https://my.shp.ee/ZYRNff2

Faikin
https://github.com/Sonic-Amiga/ESP8266-Faikin

Wiring - cn_wir port specifically because it’s scattered in the github repo. If yours is built in wifi module model just remove that cable from the port.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Mitsubishi Electric (cn105 port)

PAP jst cable
https://my.shp.ee/vwE85Ut

Mitsubishi2mqtt
https://github.com/dzungpv/mitsubishi2MQTT

For tuya, you can order this module from thailand
https://shopee.co.th/product/27525505
And that’s it, should save you 500 from sensibo or other devices. Obviously daikin has their own app, but not exactly open source. And mitsubishi electric has kumo cloud but they don’t exactly use it here. For other brands, you can just google it, i noticed panasonic, midea, haier has non cloud esp solution.
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I’m thinking if I want to use smart switch for the Aircon switch.
Aqara only has 20A switch which should be able support up to my 2.5hp AC, I have a 3.0hp AC that requires 32A switch.

I think is not necessary to have smart switch for AC, but good to have.

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QUOTE(soonvee @ Jul 29 2024, 04:14 PM)
Hi, I am having some issues of pairing my smatrul zig bee switch into my smart life apps and it's seems can't discover the devices

Frist time encountered this issue as previously my other switch all ok or is there any limitations for pairing this ? Currently this is my 7th switch under the same ZigBee hub.

Anyone can help 😥

https://youtube.com/shorts/48XpdshA26s?si=KZpgkrasCspuWifp

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This one you need to solve yourself.

Trust me, most of these items are OEM for another brand and requires a different method. So sometimes you cannot rely on YouTube. Try using adding device using WiFi if fail try Bluetooth or even ZigBee. You never know which one success.
If fails, try naming your handphone with same name and password as your router. And try.

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