Basically, there got 3 type manufacturer company in Penang. Based on ur experience and opinion, wat do u feel about this 3 types company?

Do share ur feeling here.

for sure US MNC is 1st choice..

General mindset will be:

US MNC: Relatively high pay and better benefits.

Japanese company: Low pay and low benefits but you could learn a lot.

Taiwanese company: Might be high pay but work load is a lot; perhaps might be same like China company too.

US - capitalistic. Profits are very important to them. Outsourcing may be frequent if costs are expensive

Japan - Asian work culture. Employees expected to die for their company - literally in working.

Taiwai - Chinaman. Enough said...

The information is just from a personal perspective and I may be wrong.

You missed out Europe company eg. Germany.

From my p.o.v. the priority should be like this:
1. US
2. Europe
3. Japan
4. Taiwan
5. Local

This post has been edited by say_it: Oct 19 2006, 10:58 AM

He had left out dutch based company as well...benefits not bad also

included in eur based la....

1. US - Performance driven, only the best will survive and get promoted
2. Europe - More relaxed, do not condemn, good way to nurture a starting career. Can learn a lot as well. May not be as systematic or have a good structure as an American company would be
3. Japan - For most japanese, their first company that they join would also be their last. Very loyal and expect you to be loyal. You would learn a lot from them.
4. Taiwan - Work is very taxing because profits are on their mind and to maximize profits, they would minimize cost (meaning workers) but expect to get things done.
5. Local - Work is very taxing because profits are on their mind and to maximize profits, they would minimize cost (meaning workers) but expect to get things done. Less structured.

US - Enjoy your life and you work and with high pay
Japan - Long working hour, average pay and less increment
Taiwan - Long working hour, lower pay and lower increment

Agree. You make a better list

20 years from now if Chinese Economy Boost .i think chinese company will hv better benefit than current US company... China is Expanding .. US is jz maintaining. What u ppl think ?

But no matter how, Chinaman is still Chinaman

30 YEARS AGO US ppl also same as china ppl.. Work long hour untill their living standard bcm better. i believe china company will offer better benefit in future. 20-25 years for china..

working with Japan, u will given a small knife hehe jk,

anyway i working with US company, i quite enjoy with it..but the workload that i having now woooh

This post has been edited by wos: Oct 20 2006, 10:45 AM

How about bumiputra company? Any opinion?

if you really think later china based company will offer better package than Us based then try to look at the japanese base company. why they still offer the same package ....they're grow rite...

i think it is asia culture....

I think Japanese economy is not very stable and their language not use internationally haha.. not sure.. only know the truth 30 years later.

anyone here from Japanese company before , n jump boat to other company(seeking more knowledge etc)?
difficult to leave or anything?

*to me as a freshie, im into learning

This post has been edited by e-jump: Oct 20 2006, 03:52 PM

You sure about that? Their mindset 30 years ago was still very different from that of China today.

then do you think chinese use internationally ?

Mandarin is the widest spoken language in the world, no?

Yes, it is and what's the correlation with the comparison in this thread?

check prev post

even westerners are learning mandarin for the sake of doing business with China.

There's an easy way out.

All they need to do is to hire someone who can speak dual language

actaully how much do you know about the american companies 30 years ago? how about the mindset of chinese mindset of today? or is it all based on heresay generelisations and racist slants?

No it's not.

No, they hire someone who can speak Chinese and understand Chinese to negotiate deals, so in the even of something dirty required, like bribing a Chinese official (which happens often), they can come off with their hands clean.

Damn.. smart observation! The Chinese are pretty good at these.. Western blokes ain't stupid either.

Ok. all these seems to be external/foreign companies cultures...


SO... what about.. <ahem>.. any MALAYSIAN style company that is worth to mention?

Any examples of any "Towering" Malaysian company culture that you would be proud that you want to work in?

This post has been edited by netfan: Oct 22 2006, 12:49 PM

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...toehrAtlas.html

japanese company dont take care of their worker.(esp if u go overseas to work for them they will bond u n say this is a training)
bad benefits, low increment, outdated.

Spanker,

There is an US law: Anti Corrupt Practice Act which essentially say that an American company can be prosecuted using US law even when it is operating in a foreign countries. So, since bribing is illegal in USA, American companies cannot legally bribe anyone even in foreign countries. Ditto for racial and age discrimination.

1) American companies

In general, performance is the goal. more flexible on working hours and so on. But, there is NO loyalty between the companies and the employees. If the company has a bad quarter, you may be layoffed. Ditto if the company has a change of strategy.


2) Chinese companies from China.

You have to understand something very simple here. Cost of labor is very low in China and there are plenty of good qualified people in China. So, Chinese from mainland China think that workers are disposable and they are right coming from China. There are substantial fraud in China. So, the company most likely has very strong and strict financial control. In most cases, it is centralized control with most decision come from China.

What kind of company do you consider Solectron to be?? It was founded by Taiwanese and Malaysian in USA. It is registerred as USA company but the founders are Chinese from Taiwan and Malaysia.

Dreamer


This post has been edited by dreamer101: Oct 22 2006, 10:27 PM

3Den,

They do take care of their worker if you are Japanese. Since you are not, you will be always be a second class citizen in Japanese companies.

Dreamer

just wondering,what bout Indian Companies like Reliance,Tata and LT

may be most of the human in this world is chinese
as china already have 13m.