beware of this user, big liar, cheating customer n gonr missing.

Update for future action: Thanks lohwenli

Victim's name : zakaria hamzah
Item : Athlon 64 2800+
Amount conned : RM185
Police report : not yet reported, will update when done
Date of report : not yet reported, will update when done

Victim's name : Jaryl Loh Wen-Li
Item : Enermax Liberty 620W
Amount conned : RM400
Police report : not yet reported, will update when done
Date of report : not yet reported, will update when done

This post has been edited by cozack: Oct 29 2006, 10:34 PM

You should post this thread in dispute section.

at least give us the full story what is it about?

he is Junior Member also or.........???

What u with him buy ??

cozack

Kindly provide more information about the dispute

sorry for the wrong post n without detail.

last week i try to find s754 proc n found his post about selling his friend cpu n mobo. then i ask for his s754 athlon64 2800+ and he reply with the price n i aggree with it.



QUOTE
include caurier? i'm at melaka rite now

QUOTE
rm180 can?



Just add RM5 for pos laju, i pay the rest. Cheersss:

My info:

Bank: Public Bank
Name: Ooi Kok Aun
Account: 4-4663975-24
MyKad: 810426-02-5403

PM me ur name, address and phone umber after u bank in.

cheersss...

steve

I thot u use cash-in machine, thats why i say can send today.

Can i send tomorrow morning? It will bethe first thing i do tomoroow morning cause i need to check with my bank 1st.

Dont worry, if i send tomorrow morning u will get it Saturday cause i ask the counter girl at post office, POs Laju can send on Saturady. U will get it on saturday morning.

You have my word, if saturday no arrive i full refund, 100%.

n until today.. : dont recieve anything n he just closed n deleted all his post. his hp cnt be contacted

how can i reclaimed my money again? do i need to make a police report? since i already talk to public bank customer service n they said that they cnt reveal their customer info to third party n ask me to make a plce rport n then if asked by d police, they can reveal it or can refund it.

does anybody succeed with this method before?

any link bro?????????

that d problem.. he deleted his post n pu some ridiculous news bout spies or something.. i will paste it link

CPU,Mobo..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=349113&hl=

after digging.. found in Memory & Drives
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=349114&hl=

damm this guy

ask him to answer the thread here...it seem like till today at 2pm ++ he still log in to LYN....

already pm him.. no response at all.. n he closed all his thread. i think i will consult with my litle brother, hope he can ask a favor from his felow police officer n come up with something to trace this 'demon'

pity you dude.That's why I prefer COD then paying through bank.But also buying online has it's risk.

hmmm no wories mate as long as you have his ic number n his account number provided that it his...you can trace him anywhere,anyway those conned man will never learn even the greatest of them also fall down at one point....well as long as you have good conection with the authorities,everything will be easy believe me....those law enforcer have very efective way to trace people....i have some experiance tracking ppl using police help their data base is quite good within two hours already can track down....so wish you luck all the best....

i was just about to bank in money to him for 2 sticks of KVR512MB, but when i tried referring back to his ori thread, i noticed something fishy, he deleted everything in his 1st post and replaced with nonsense, and there's members claiming that they didn't receive their goods for more than 1.5 weeks.. luckily didn't kena his trap..

bad news.. even i lodge police report.. it wont get my money back. n its take time to process, since my lost not big to them.. unless big one ..

unless someone knew this guy.. anyone from nilai college here? feel like to punch tht liar..

so tension.. thought tht will get ath64.. at d end.. nothing.....

does anyone here wanna sell thier s754?

here's another one, in display cards and monitor

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=349117&hl=

yeah.. this first time i been cheated.. got no problem before.. unlucky lorr..

yup.. COD is better if u r close...

he deleted his post after i my post asking him about my proc. n immidiately after sean connery comment, he closed his post. time stamp around 2pm

Wow i checked his thread and he totally edited his thread with.. nonsense NEWS. This is a clear conned case. *sigh* why are there so many con case nowdays.

tht y lorr.. im waiting for information from nilai police.. hope tht ic no tht he gave is real, if also fake.. cant do anthing... cant trace one laa.. unless that public bank can reveal tht account owner.

Confirmed cheater.
I wanted to COD with him in Nilai.
Never receive any reply.

I have posted the original texts back into those three topics. Hope that helps.

Through a search through the PMs for his name, I found another account of his: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=69048

All members who have corresponded with these two accounts have been alerted.

OMG....I nearly bank in to get the PSU. But because he was offering ridiculous price (RM150 Enermax liberty 400W!!) i didnt accept it.

I have deleted the PM since....
but yes, that account and name are same.

I offered a ridiculous price, and he agreed anyway. Sound too good to be true. Therefore I asked for more details, but there were no replies

**quantum() said:

interested wit his rams,... luckily didnt buy.....hehe..... something fishy there......

quantum() also conman? nearly make a deal with him. PM him 3 times to COD 2 items that already been agreed before but no reply

This post has been edited by encrypteD: Oct 18 2006, 01:46 AM

My story is,

I offered **quantum() for the proc and hdd for rm480. He agreed and i ask for the account number and contact, but he din't reply me because already log off. ( Luckly he forgot and he do not have maybank account )

5 hours later he sms me said said he already send me the item but found that i din't bank in to his account. I just tell him i din't received any info from him.

I promise will bank in to him even i din't received the item, i ask for the maybank account for internet transfer, he said only got public bank account but i lose my atm card that time so not enough cash to bank in. Luckly he din't repy my sms after this.

I go to check the track code he given to me but it's only 8 digits..... so decided to wait 1 more days to received the item. untill now no any sms from him.... i realised he is CONMAN.

That day i PM him about the HDD he selling in the Memory and Drive section, didn reply at all.

Saw him ONLINE, but didn bother to reply PM.

Then he say his frens wan to let go the item, bla bla bla.

PRETEND SELLING CHEAPER THAN MARKET PRICE. WANT TO CON PEOPLE MONEY

go to your nearest police station and make a report. it's your responsibility to make a report. summore, it's a right thing to do.

this godspeed style reminds me of johnny our old fren

Aiyoo still got the person like this here. I paid already, this is my receipt:


Bank: Public Bank
Name: Ooi Kok Aun
Account: 4-4663975-24
MyKad: 810426-02-5403
H/P: 017-6452697

What the f**k.I think u also have to make a police report.Ask the police that he try to cheat u. Don't be afraid.U have a point to do the police report.It will help the police to catch this F**king person.And U also will help other people to get their money back.
Police will go faster if they get somemore report about the same case.

Im waiting for confirmation bout his ic no, if its real then i will make police report by this week. will trace him with all help can get, hope this fella will get what he deserve!!

anyone want to join me?

wow...
damn lucky me...
i almost bank in for his processor... swt =="""
when i ask for hp no.. he give a office no n saying that the no is his father office phone no...

Oct 4 2006, 02:22 PM 60.51.225.49
Oct 4 2006, 04:14 PM 60.48.170.224
Oct 6 2006, 10:07 AM 60.52.208.61
Oct 6 2006, 04:53 PM to Oct 10 2006, 10:23 AM 219.93.241.125
Oct 11 2006, 10:45 AM 60.48.144.130
Oct 12 2006, 02:12 PM 60.48.186.254

my opinion is, whenever you make police report, print out this thread, so that the officer can have a general view on this case- that is you are not the only victim.

I din't bank in money to him since he forgot to give me....

This post has been edited by Vins: Oct 18 2006, 10:18 AM


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you know what,he promiesed me those RMA and tried his very best words to trick me into bank in the money to him.To ensure i dun get conned,i asked for his number,he given me fake unexistant number,I also almost lost my money,i was online on maybank to transfer the money and while waiting for TAC code,i called him but number is wrong lucky i changed my mind when i smell fishy

If im not mistaken,
He's the guy saying helping his china friend to sell thier pc....
Has alot of parts for sale...

So did others get thier stuffs?

___________________________________________________________

i will take the RAM for the quickgrab price?i wanted to confirm it is 2 pieces right- 512x2? total 1GB RAM?
can COD in KL area, if item available plz sms me at 0123846606,thanks



Bro, i from kuantan. can u come kuantan?

No,i cant,is there any way you can deliver the item to me?I'm living in Sri Gombak,close to highway going to pahang,,can you deliver it there.By the way i'm a girl not man,thanks


Sorry Sis, LOL, u didnt state ur gender so i assume u laki laki.

Can i send by courier eg. Pos Laju?
_________________________________________________


BOleh tapi masalahnya kita tak kenal,and you pun nebie kat sini,kalau i bank in duit pastu you tak hantar item macam mana.Susah jugak kan.baru 10 haribulan lepas wallet say kena curi masa naik bas..habis duit semua dah hilang.tinggal duit dlm bank je,itupun tak banyak...risau jugak kalau dela ini pun hilang duit,,how to deal,you tell me


No la sis, i try do business here honestly, cari duit halal. I treat Pos Laju as a convenience for both of us. kalu i tipu dah mesti ade orang report saya.

Honestly, i receive many offer for the RAM, but i hope i can sell it to you to prove i am decent seller. Other than that i suggest to meet up at Kuantan or you top-up Rm50 if i come KL. Thats the best i can do.

If u trust me, we deal by POs Laju. I can send it tomorrow as i will go pos office to send other item. My info:

Bank: Public Bank
Name: Ooi Kok Aun
Account: 4-4663975-24
MyKad: 810426-02-5403

Other ppl no feedback sebab mereka dah dapat barang dah tak kisah, even tak kisah nak bagi comment. i pun sedih walaupun i hantar barang withing masa yang mereka nak.

The way i do business here tak yah cakap banyak, u just PM me ur name and address after bank in. Sure dapat next day.

______________________________________________________


Ok I akan cuba trust you,and by the way duit itu i masukkan menggunakan Maybank 2u.com ke acount public bank.So it will take 3 working days baru clear dlm account you.Tapi kalau you ada account maybank please bagi kat I ..lagi cepat dan senang.
Apa nombor handphone you?I nak contact you sebelum masukkan duit.I harap you will deal with honesty.I risau jugak kalau i hilang duit lagi, ,ok bagi I no ,i nak call you now before i bank in duit boleh tak?
Duit itu akan dah pending until monday baru masuk akaun you-macam cek banklah.
If possible bagi I no bank Maybank ok:)

Nanti lepas I terima item,i bagi good feedback kat you.Please don't cheat me yea,
thanks



OK, pls. call my father office at 03-90782563 and ask foir Steve. I can send today. Thanks.
___________________________________________________________


[/QUOTE]
hi why is your number is is in KL while you are in Kuantan?Don't yo have a handphone number?I wanted to reach you.But if you are in KL,then i can meet you up right?
my number 0123846606.
[/QUOTE]

aikssss..sorry sorry.. is 09-90782563

very sweet talking a$$hole, almost tricked me,until now no reply when i pm him asking why is his number he given me is wrong,when i asked for handphone number,he didnt give..duh almost get conned,i never tot there is thsi kind of sweet talking cheaters around

This post has been edited by sumieazhar: Oct 18 2006, 12:43 PM

Tis is gonna be hot topic....
I dont smell identity theft coz all the money get into same account..

whether ID theft/hijack or not, "Ooi Kok Aun" is a pretty common name (at least in yellowpages). wonder if the ICno. is fake ......

actually, alot of confidence man going around with their skim-cepat-kayas. simply promise a fool some easy money, and he/she will unknowningly allow his/her bank acc# & ICno. to be used for laundering-internet-fraud-money. just my 2c.

This post has been edited by acougan: Oct 18 2006, 02:08 PM

Damn, if this is all true I kena real nice from this guy..just did interbank yesterday..was in a rush so was less careful..shit..always a first time. I'll send him a PM, if he don't send by this week and confrim with a VALID tracking no I'm going to the cops..

EDIT : The detail I have are the same as what everyone got..this guy really just cut and paste..


Hopefully the IC no is at least wrong..then the money will at least be delayed. Anyone know if can cancel interbank transaction if not yet reach the recipient?

This post has been edited by lohwenli: Oct 18 2006, 03:19 PM

Mother***ker... my rm160 for kingston value ram... i was so convince that fraud would never happen to me... damn... this is gonna leave a badmark for me towards trading online...

i deposited my money last thursday... i'm only a student...so geram

for interbank GIRO, even if wrong ICNo., it will still go through. (ICNo is used just for referrence) IIRC, they match acc# & name only. hurry up & call the bank, maybe still sempat to cancel the GIRO, just tell them u input the wrong amount/acc# or sth. hope this helps.

This post has been edited by acougan: Oct 18 2006, 03:31 PM

damm so.. closed i try to grab 7600GT...

wah.. so many victim already.. thought tht only 3 of us...

didnt recieve any confirmation bout his ic no yet from my bro..

bout online trancs.. yup ic no only for refference, if acc no is correct, it will debited to that acc.. damm this fella and hiss/her whole famili member.. hope he/she wil be struck by lighting or rammed by trailler!!!!

Mind if I ask, why were you so convinced that it will never happen to you?

CoZack

If possible update all the information that you have on the first post

i did think bout something.. can we all make a report to public bank bout this acc? like a group meeting face2face with thier customer support... if i'm alone.. dont think they will layan me... if so many of us.. may b we got something strong here...

anybody?

what information? i think already given... his name, ic, pblic bank acc..

guys.. any solution here? seem a lot more victim.. increasing.....

Erm....
There was a thread previously asking about interbanking..

The discussion ended that if the IC is wrong, the transaction will be forfeited...
Your interbanking status i believe is still ACCEPTED....
After verifying then only will be SUCCESS or not.

huh? forfeited or nulled? which thread, can i check?

i did internet GIRO fr BCB to mb2u (wrong ICNo. - transaction successful)
i also did internet GIRO fr mb2u to BCB (wrong ICNo. - transaction successful)

other banks, i'm not sure. how abt over-counter interbank GIRO? also needs ICNo. in their forms?


normally, its bttr to organize all the info regarding scammer details, links, M.O., list of posiible victims in ur very 1st post. use Edit posts function. usually, u approach bank CS for help after u've made a police report. rmb to bring a copy of report + all supporting docs. public bank CS is pretty good, i hear.

This post has been edited by acougan: Oct 18 2006, 04:41 PM

Saya sendiri hampir tertipu dengan dia ni. Saya nak beli Pentium D 805 dari dia. Tapi, nasib baik, saya hampir bank-in RM 230 ke dalam accnt Public Bank dia. Ni salinan PM yg dia bagi kpd saya...

[MY MESSSAGE TO HIM]
Hello...saya berminat dgn processor Intel Pentium D 805 yg you jual. Kalau I nak beli proc saja boleh? I offer you for proc only RM 200. I tinggal dekat Perak. Kalau deal, bagi saya no accnt-bank, nanti saya bagi alamat suruh you hantar Pentium D tu. TQ.

[THEN, HE REPLIED TO ME]
Boss, RM230 boleh? include pos laju charges. What is ur location?

I can send today as actually the item already pack nicely, tinggal tulis alamat saje. If you agree RM230, DEAL! My info:

Bank: Public Bank
Name: Ooi Kok Aun
Account: 4-4663975-24
MyKad: 810426-02-5403

PM me ur address and name and number after u bank in, if u agree la..

cheersss...



This post has been edited by AjkR06: Oct 18 2006, 06:20 PM

for me, I'd rather meet the person IRL and then only give him money and get the product. Old fashioned but it is a lot safer

i remember reading another thread with d almost same case? after con people he edit his thread with nonsense post.. johnny sumtin.
maybe same guy ?

[QUOTE]QUOTE
QUOTE
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How much is the mobo only? RM200 can?



Too low la, rm220 can?
Including postlaju? working perfectly?



Of course la, if spoilt how to sell? Everything included. Add Rm5 for pos laju can? Total is Rm225.

My info:

Bank: Public Bank
Name: Ooi Kok Aun
Account: 4-4663975-24
MyKad: 810426-02-5403

Just PM me ur name, address and phone number after u bank in.

QUOTE
P4GD1 RM225 + postage can? if can take this one....not P4p800-x



Asus P4GD1 for Rm225 and postage is ok also BUT i dont have its back panel:

Package include:
1. Asus P4GD1
2. Manual
3. Some Asus brochure
4. 2x CD (driver and manual)
5. sticker
6. 1xfloppy cable (new in plastic)
7. 2x IDE cable (new in plastic)
8. A bag of jumper and screw

Pls. confirm this deal, i can send today as i will go post office. Pls PM me ur name and address after u bank in. My info:

Bank: Public Bank
Name: Ooi Kok Aun
Account: 4-4663975-24

QUOTE
QUOTE
QUOTE
P4GD1 RM225 + postage can? if can take this one....not P4p800-x



Asus P4GD1 for Rm225 and postage is ok also BUT i dont have its back panel:

Package include:
1. Asus P4GD1
2. Manual
3. Some Asus brochure
4. 2x CD (driver and manual)
5. sticker
6. 1xfloppy cable (new in plastic)
7. 2x IDE cable (new in plastic)
8. A bag of jumper and screw

Pls. confirm this deal, i can send today as i will go post office. Pls PM me ur name and address after u bank in. My info:

Bank: Public Bank
Name: Ooi Kok Aun
Account: 4-4663975-24
huh? No back panel??? aiyaa... cry.gif hmm.. nvm la... I'll Take the P4P800-X Later I bank in the money! Here is my details:

Name: Jason Thong Sheng Yoong
Address: No 18, Jalan 1
Taman Tasik Indah
34000, Taiping
Perak.
Phone num: 012 460 9785

Can I have your phone number? postage using postlaju?


Yepp, the back panel is actually "berkarat" i send it to you la but advise not to use.

I am to offline soon cause later i will tumpang sister car to post office. i hope can send ur package sekali, can u do the bank in ASAP via Public Bank?

Haha!!! kanasai feller! always call ppl bank in money! F*** Him la..!!! Luckly i din bank in the money! anot my rm200++ GONE!!! Ask him for Phone number din reply me ad! Lowyat admin can do something about this???

This post has been edited by nixdrof: Oct 18 2006, 09:18 PM

next time trade here only with COD or with old members whom has good feedback record at least..safest way is to trade will verified members at ww.lelong.com.my or non verified members use safetrade via lelong,wont get conned and at least easy to find the person who con you as Lelong had database of info or all it's members,
i'm also a lelong seller as well same ID.

good luck for those who lost the money,hope can catch thsi #^%$fcker

i was almsot get conned but i played smart,keep trying to get his mobile number but didnt give,in sub consious mind i had logged in Maybank to transfer the money,but i tried to call the number he given me,it was fake-i guess God saved me even if im in my darkest moments

This post has been edited by sumieazhar: Oct 18 2006, 09:58 PM

does anyone from nilai, NS here?

i see...maybe iwas lucky coz i ask for his hand phone number. he didn't reply since then. nearly bank in rm450 for his d850 and asus mobo

lelong.com.my has its flaws as well, labelled verified senior members does not safeguard the trade. I read plenty of stories from lelong site.

But seriously the safetrade via lelong does have some positive implication.

I have been with lelong since 01.

latest info tht i can get is his address according to ic no given is at alor star.

will wait for more info from police.

alor star? i wonder if the person has a telekom registration.



^ is this the address & phone#?

true,at least it is less risk than dealing with 100% stranger by the wat safetrade is very reliable for non verified members ,the buyer wont risk get cheated even is paying by safe trade cost more,i think you know that

This post has been edited by sumieazhar: Oct 19 2006, 12:04 PM

I doubt the guy owns a house....
And that phone number was fake rite? how to check?

Lelong.com.my safetrader isnt reliable girl....
I had experienced it myself...
I bought a digicam from verified member....and it turned out to be used item instead of new as stated...
Sent back the item but the guy said no more stock for same model, instead he still posting sale of the same model....
Then i topup to get different model and got the item, but to my despair again i get a used item....
I posted in the lelong forum and LYN too...but nobody cares....
The seller even dares to counter my comments by saying "ridiculous buyer, already changed item still not satisfy".
Anyway...The guy didnt only get bad comment from me but few others too...and few others didnt really care about the "used" item...
And his reputation/feedback still keep going up as GOOD and only a few BAD.

Doesn't getting 3 bad comment get you suspended anymore? I don't, I don't trade in lelong long time ago cause too many fraud. Now, all the fraudster come here.

BTW, you should have used safetrade if you are using lelong. It's a good escrow service that doesn't cost much. Anyway, only my 2cents since I don't trade there anymore. Back to topic, trading here is very risky nowadays.

my experience with lelong oso tells me u should be careful...bought something from a 500++ verified member but item was shipped almost 2 weeks later and cannot reach that fellow through handphone at all...emails are replied 4 days later...lucky item reach

Are you still feeling sore that your suggestions weren't accepted?

Im not very sure about suspension....
But i wasnt verified then, so only can leave neutral comment...


So the guy posted alot of stuffs for sale but nobody actually successfully traded (besides ones paid but havent get item) ??

Bank: Public Bank
Name: Ooi Kok Aun
Account: 4-4663975-24
MyKad: 810426-02-5403

My house address is A 1445, Jalan Tanjung Api, Kuantan 25050
My number is 016-9326598
can call me at my father office: 09-5838459, pls. ask for Kok Aun or Steve.

Tel. no. is fax no.

But don't know whether the address is valid or not. Maybe Kuantan fellow can check it out.

Hope this will help.

^ address fake

http://siva-my.jobstreet.com/_profile/prev...ertiser_id=2757

hopefully, TS gets more lead fr polis+bank CS.

hm, this scammer M.O. really mirrors that infamous Johnny fella. he struck when close to CNY long holidays too.

im hoping tht using police report, P Bank can take some action regarding this fraud account. does anyone succeed reclaiming their mnoney before?

i cant do anything yet since im at my hometown.. will wait after raya for futher action regarding this n hoping that public bank can do something to help us.

happy holiday

Hope for the best. But if i've not mistaken, i dun think the bank will be allowed to just refund the money except there's a court order.

What is it that you'd like them to do?
As for reclaiming, it isnt their responsibility in the first place so i doubt they'll do that

Anyone who got cheated by the fellow pls gather ur bank in/transfer statement and go report to the police, he'll definitely come back to conn again..

Yup, gonna lodge my report very soon. Damn that I'm busy with exams .

Btw threadstarter, can compile the dates and numbers of all the police reports lodged, I just talked to one of the trade enforcers, since some of us are from seperate places, we can append other reports to ours to give it more weight-show that more than 1 person conned and get the police to carry out action faster. Probably most of us won't ever get our money back, but definitely have to put a stop to this guy's con operation.

need court order? hm.. seems tht quite imposible in this cse.. do i need to gather all trans before lodge police report or just make one? how about all us post their transaction here n i will print it n hope they will do something.

I think it is better for the threadstarter to gather all info on the transactions between all involved with this fella. Coz as lohwenli stated, you can append other eports when you lodge your report to put more weight and pressure so that some action would be taken at least.
Guys, it's time to put a stop to all these con cases in LYN.

Yes, we'll need a court order to make this guy give our money back, unless he is intimidated enough from our pressure and police action so that he decides to just settle it like a gentleman without going to court. But I think thats highly unlikely..best thing we can do as responsible Lowyat-ians (correct me if this is the wrong term) is to report this fellow so that he won't con other people. We need to work together to make LYN a safe place to trade.

Btw, unless the total conned (from each and every one of us combined) comes up to a substantial sum, the most we can do after the police nail him is charge him in small claims court-it will not be easy to get a court order to force him to pay us back. However if we the total comes up to a large enough ammount we can bring it to a higher court..that would make things easier.

Ok, so everyone please post up the following, I'll start first
-threadstarter, if possible edit this and the details of our conman into the first post

Victim's name : Jaryl Loh Wen-Li
Item : Enermax Liberty 620W
Amount conned : RM400
Police report : not yet reported, will update when done
Date of report : not yet reported, will update when done

I think this is thebest way to do. As I have been scammed few times before & the biggest sum is 14k. I lodge a police report already. They ask me to go to Cawangan Jenayah Komersil & I do as they say. But, unlucky me, till today, no action taken to that guy. I wish I can help you guys with my contact in Caw. Jenayah Komersial. Only think is that I was scammed by non-LYN member.

Keep up the good work man. Catch this scammer & punish him. Damn!

I wanna update my post here. I just realised i didn't delete the PM he sent. I dont know if it will help, but here is the PM:

oh man,i think he cheated more than 1-2k already or maybe more than that......Do anyone have asome details about a person name strongbaby??I want to buy something from her dont know she is good or not?????

Sasaug, go through the old threads in this section.
U might find information u want.
Btw, why nobody is doing follow up on this thread?