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 What to do in an accident in Malaysia, Everything about m/vehicle insurance

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isr25
post Jun 27 2017, 08:12 AM

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Maybe you should do a section on accident with foreign registered vehicles loui. It is very hard to claim against their insurance (no cross border agreement), and if they don't buy third party insurance when they drive in Malaysia, you are forced to claim against your own insurance, or demand money from them which they may, or may not agree with.

I had the pleasure of both being hit, and hitting Singaporean registered vehicles. At first I didn't know it's damn hard to claim against their insurance, so I had to claim against my own - RM2k worth of damage, so it's worth it to burn my NCD - so when it's my turn to hit a Singaporean registered vehicle, I didn't pay on the spot, and did police report on my own carelessness - RM3K worth of damage...

Same thing applies when you visit Singapore - you are not required to get 3rd party insurance, so if you get involved in an accident there, claim against your own insurance as well.

Both Singapore and Malaysia should enact a law like Thailand which requires foreign registered vehicles to have at least 3rd party insurance when they drive in their country to protect their citizens...
isr25
post Jun 27 2017, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(loui @ Jun 27 2017, 09:58 AM)
not really

both Malaysia and Singapore did have an agreement that our policy coverage does extend to cover accident on their soils, vice versa, hence you don't have to buy another insurance policy while driving into those countries

Some even cover up to Brunei & Thailand

print screen from Etiqa website ( https://www.etiqa.com.sg/wp-content/uploads...1042015EIPL.pdf )

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It only covers your vehicle, not the 3rd party vehicle which you hit.
isr25
post Jun 27 2017, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(loui @ Jun 27 2017, 10:59 AM)
again, no

it covers third party by default

and only covers your own vehicle if you bought a comprehensive policy
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Are you sure about this? I got hit by a Singaporean vehicle, and couldn't claim against their insurance. I need to pay and was told to claim against their insurance in Civil court
isr25
post Jun 27 2017, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(loui @ Jun 27 2017, 11:13 AM)
yup

the reason government(in most countries) make it compulsory for every driver/rider to have an insurance policy is to ensure third party able to get compensation in case of any accident involve

hence, driver/rider need at least a third party policy(which covers claim from a third party), whereas comprehensive policy(which cover both claims from third party and yourself) is optional

there are few factors you couldn't claim against their insurance

1. you are at fault
2. police/insurance company couldn't determine who is at fault(hence you are require to present your case in civil court to convince the judge that fault is on your side)
3. you are claiming for huge compensation (usually involve injuries or death)

btw, I am confuse as to "I need to pay and was told to claim against their insurance in Civil court" mentioned by you

what do you need to pay? third party punya repair bill? your own repair bill?

who said so? your insurance company, third party insurance company or police?
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Police+Insurance Provider (MSIG)+Workshop all told me need to file claim against the Singapore Insurance provider at court - using the bill of repair / cost estimate by workshop. But since need to engage lawyer (lawyer fees), I malas since the process could take a VERY long time, soI just claim against my insurance provider.

Confirm the Singaporean car at fault, which was supported by the Laporan Polis and photographic evidence.

I guess you never had the unfortunate experience to get hit by a Singaporean car?
isr25
post Jun 27 2017, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(loui @ Jun 27 2017, 12:43 PM)
The fact that you are told to go to court to file a claim means that insurance does covers third party claim

Malaysia and Singapore insurance is base on fault base liability. Which means you need to prove the other parties is at fault to succeed a claim.

Most third party claims usually end up in court due to dispute of facts (both parties stated different versions in police reports) or dispute of amount of compensation (unable to agree on cost of repair) as OD KFK does not apply if involved with foreign vehicles
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Ok, maybe my definition is different from yours. It is not as easy and straightforward thangetting hit by Malaysian cars, and also may not be worth your time/effort/money to go up and down the court & engage a lawyer. If you get hit by a Malaysian car, just getting the details of the car+driver, the police can follow up to get the accident report out and you claim under OD-KFK or even claim under the 3rd party insurance directly.

If you get hit by a foreign registered vehicle, which is covered by a 3rd party foreign insurance provider, you're screwed and you're better off just claiming under OD of your own insurance. The legal fees alone would be a stumbling block - and would take up to a few years...

If I get hit by a Foreign car, I now know to settle outside - or at least get some money to cover my NCD losses coz trying to claim under their insurance is a pain/not worth it...

This post has been edited by isr25: Jun 27 2017, 03:09 PM

 

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