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ViktorJ
post Jan 16 2019, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(melvinlow85 @ Jan 16 2019, 04:51 PM)
in general.somking ban killed all mamak and resturant

They can follow Singapore to have a smoking table corner rather than total ban in mamak shop.It was implemented hasty with many loopholes.People cant smoke in mamak will eat out lesser meaning to say economy cant run locally............
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Eh, really ka? Malaysian GDP and ekonomi merosot because x blh rokok?

Please write a paper on this. Am very keen on reading it.
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post Jan 17 2019, 06:06 AM

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QUOTE(melvinlow85 @ Jan 16 2019, 04:51 PM)
in general.somking ban killed all mamak and resturant

They can follow Singapore to have a smoking table corner rather than total ban in mamak shop.It was implemented hasty with many loopholes.People cant smoke in mamak will eat out lesser meaning to say economy cant run locally............
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Please show research paper on this opinion of yours. In any change, there is a valley of despair. That's inevitable. Once people get used to not smoking while eating, business will be back as normal. 5 years from now, they won't even remember the complains they made today.
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post Jan 17 2019, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(ramz @ Apr 5 2015, 06:58 AM)
Typical family scenario i get on an ALMOST daily basis:
I go to kopitiam, foodcourt, mamak, indian coffee shop, etc. to makan with my children. Someone around me lights up a cigarette. My children's eyes start to tear, and suddenly their noses start to run. I tell them politely. I get reaction as follows:
1. Say nothing, like nothing happened. like its their right.
2. say sorry and put out cigarette, or move
3. say sorry and don't move. again, like its their right.
4. say sorry and ask us to move. again, like its their right.
What ever their answer, the issue will be resolved either by me moving, they putting out their cigarettes, or they moving. then few minutes later another smoker comes and i repeat the same above script again, and again, and again......and again.

I am very very very tired of this! I spend considerable family time just dealing with these issue, and i am really, really tired.

This is a message to you inconsiderate smokers: Smoking in public is not your right. Please be considerate and look around you before smoking. It doesn't matter if there are no kids. We non-smokers do not tolerate sitting near a smoke source while eating. I am sure at home you smokers don't sit around burning rubbish either while having your meal. That's the analogy we can give u smokers of how we feel.
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Yea, smoking should be banned in public places. Smoke will disturbs other people.. especially non-smokers feeling.
Imagine sitting in a restaurant unable to enjoy the meal because of the smoke from neighbor's table.
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post Jan 17 2019, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(melvinlow85 @ Jan 17 2019, 09:57 AM)
what i mean is too hasty decision .you could have slowly change not suddenly.You can just go to the mamak shop in Kl and you can see fewer people compare to last time.Drop in sales mean what?Unless you dont go out daily sit home,whatever happen outside is not your problem.
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What do you suggest to slowly change?
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post Jan 17 2019, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(melvinlow85 @ Jan 17 2019, 11:51 AM)
Yes i agree smoking public should be ban but they should have what people say smoking corner for people to smoke rather than total ban in a mamak shop.1 or 2 table at corner smoking box while other is not.

Last time food stall got 2 type customer but now only non smoker and it effect sales in general.Who doesn't have friend last time sit mamak lim kopi smoke cigg tcss?
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I actually agree with this implementation. A clear smoking section with proper guideline to setup. It's up to restaurant to implement or not, but if they do they must follow the setup guideline.

But gomen lazy maybe.
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post Jan 17 2019, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(melvinlow85 @ Jan 16 2019, 04:51 PM)
in general.somking ban killed all mamak and resturant

They can follow Singapore to have a smoking table corner rather than total ban in mamak shop.It was implemented hasty with many loopholes.People cant smoke in mamak will eat out lesser meaning to say economy cant run locally............
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post Jan 17 2019, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(melvinlow85 @ Jan 17 2019, 09:57 AM)
what i mean is too hasty decision .you could have slowly change not suddenly.You can just go to the mamak shop in Kl and you can see fewer people compare to last time.Drop in sales mean what?Unless you dont go out daily sit home,whatever happen outside is not your problem.
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try talking about change with the group that can't quit.
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post Jan 17 2019, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Jan 15 2019, 03:23 PM)
So far I have not seen a single enforcement officer doing the smoking round in restaurants. Maybe my timing is off but I feel it is just the lack of enforcement as usual with all rules that Malaysia implement. If it goes on like this I can assure you in 3 months, smoking will be back to normal.
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nope.. now is social media time.. everybody with a handphone can viral smokers... the main reason my friends abide by the 3 meter ruling is scared being made "stars" on social media.. just look at the 2 old fellas from taiping wanna be taiko.. the very next day suddenly apologise to minister..
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post Jan 17 2019, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(eksk @ Jan 17 2019, 02:09 PM)
nope.. now is social media time.. everybody with a handphone can viral smokers... the main reason my friends abide by the 3 meter ruling is scared being made "stars" on social media.. just look at the 2 old fellas from taiping wanna be taiko.. the very next day suddenly apologise to minister..
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I saw some "clever" ones putting on dark sunglasess..
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post Jan 23 2019, 11:17 AM

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Guys,

I still can see many vaping in public / kopitiam, is it legal?
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post Jan 25 2019, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(wilson1149 @ Jan 23 2019, 11:17 AM)
Guys,

I still can see many vaping in public / kopitiam, is it legal?
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I don't think it's legal to smoke now in a Kopi tiam. I don't.

I went to a Pub next to my house last month and they said I can't smoke there, went there again last week and now they allow smoking. I wish they make up their mind. sad.gif
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post Mar 15 2019, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(zamorin @ Jan 25 2019, 11:22 AM)
I don't think it's legal to smoke now in a Kopi tiam. I don't.

I went to a Pub next to my house last month and they said I can't smoke there, went there again last week and now they allow smoking. I wish they make up their mind. sad.gif
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Guys, im a smoker and proud to claim that i have stopped from smoking in restaurants icon_rolleyes.gif Somehow, it is a good move by the gov to ban smoking in food premises. Now we can let a baby to eat at restaurant with a cleaner air. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 17 2019, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Jan 15 2019, 03:23 PM)
So far I have not seen a single enforcement officer doing the smoking round in restaurants. Maybe my timing is off but I feel it is just the lack of enforcement as usual with all rules that Malaysia implement. If it goes on like this I can assure you in 3 months, smoking will be back to normal.
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Easy, the authorities only get off their asses with media coverage, so take a vid of it or have someone record the encounter, upload it to youtube and call it how malaysians are despite the laws and get the media to mention it. For sure the authorities will come running.
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post Mar 17 2019, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(valegal @ Mar 15 2019, 10:04 AM)
Guys, im a smoker and proud to claim that i have stopped from smoking in restaurants  icon_rolleyes.gif Somehow, it is a good move by the gov to ban smoking in food premises. Now we can let a baby to eat at restaurant with a cleaner air.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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congrats thumbup.gif i mean its not like you cant smoke at home right?
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post Mar 18 2019, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Mar 17 2019, 01:28 AM)
congrats  thumbup.gif i mean its not like you cant smoke at home right?
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Hahahah ya, but clearly i managed to reduce the amount of sticks per day thumbup.gif

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