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Enquiries/Recommendations Buying a new laptop? NEED RECOMMENDATIONS? V25,, Please follow the format :)

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post Jul 12 2015, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(ito90 @ Jul 12 2015, 03:51 AM)
1) LENOVO Y50-70-2223, ~ RM 3900 (from lowyat trade post),  i7-4720HQ, 16GB, 1TB HDD+ 8GBSSD, NVIDIA® GeForce® 960M , 15.6", 2.5kg, warranty 2 years or

2) Acer Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G, RM 3999 (for ACER official website),  i7-4720HQ, 8GB, 1TB + 8GB SSHD, NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 960M, 15.6", 2.4kg, warranty 1 year.

Personally more prefer Acer V Nitro cuz it got better review in after sales services. But with similar price, I can get 16gb for LENOVO, so..any comment?
I cannot comment on the build quality of the laptops you listed, having not owned either of them.

However, on paper, the Lenovo looks like the better value buy.

QUOTE(ito90 @ Jul 12 2015, 03:51 AM)
I may want to upgrade the HDD with 256GB SSD, as I am really noob in computer stuff, is this one compatible with both laptops above? PX-SCS-256L9S (NEW) - LITEON 900S 256GB SSD SATA3 - RM 380
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That SSD should be compatible as long as there are no warranty stickers on the chassis of either laptop preventing you from meddling with their innards
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post Jul 16 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Jul 16 2015, 09:48 AM)
based on my personal experience... i bought acer as my first notebook when i enter uni.. really use it in extreme condition (heavy games and rendering 3D) even low setting, dat time was gt310m  sweat.gif few months later i bought my asus x42de, just came bek from shop, hdd dead  sweat.gif  wait 9 days to get new hdd.. fuck yeah.. my acer give to my bro dat time.. so i dont have any notebook.. so had to wait.. and my acer  still kicking until now... but currently my bro use it play fifa most of the time... still can ply smoothly with fifa15. 6 years od.. my asus.. died early of this year.. around feb if not mistaken. 5 years lifespan...
even a forumer, my friend..if you refer to his first post in this topic. he is acer user before that.. he's regret change to lenovo.  laugh.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3623734

i still believe acer have their own QC.. and i think that acer still a reliable brand. just ppl still assume acer is bad. well.. certain notebook have their own problem.. just because of 1 notebook fail to meet their expectation, they blame the brand..
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I'll concur that Acer has been improving steadily over the years. But IMHO, most of the distrust of the brand stems from their poor products from over a decade ago. My first computer was an Acer desktop purchased about 15 years ago and it was a continuous fountain of grief. Still, as you said, the durability of consumer electronics has as much to do with blind luck as with quality components. Though the better the latter, the less the former becomes a factor.
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post Jul 21 2015, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Jul 20 2015, 09:31 PM)
most i found is 6 months only...  hmm.gif
i tot at most 6 months  hmm.gif  if its 1 year.. same as original 1.. they not loss meh if its 1 year warranty if there is defective products,.  hmm.gif
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I'm not entirely sure how it is here in Malaysia, but in the US, warranty backing on refurbished products usually differ by manufacturer. For instance Dell offers a 100 day warranty whereas Apple stands by their refurbished products with a one year warranty. Though from my admittedly limited experience, 90 days seems to be the default warranty period for most refurbished laptops in the States.
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post Jul 23 2015, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jul 23 2015, 12:45 PM)
for gaming..... most game still mainly support fhd la bro...

i hv a xps15 uhd... good for graphic n art work.. sux for gaming

how many games actually support UHD now... tat TS wan for gaming not work
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That statement is kind of misleading. UHD is mainly detrimental to gaming because of the amount of processing power required to run games at that resolution. Since laptop parts are generally weaker in comparison to their desktop counterparts, FHD still is the best sweet spot for gaming performance vs display quality. That being said, if you have the hardware necessary to support it, UHD is just a matter of resolution scaling and hence is supported by the majority of games.

One point of note however, is that UHD screens tend to consume more power than their FHD counterparts and thus can lead to shorter battery life in laptops.


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post Jul 25 2015, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jul 23 2015, 11:57 PM)
Thanks for all the replies, but sorry to have caused an argument.
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Arguments are not necessarily bad, especially if backed by solid facts. I'm always up for a good debate tongue.gif

QUOTE(xperiaDROID @ Jul 24 2015, 11:18 PM)
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. But I just saw a review in LYN of the Lenovo U41, unfortunately the reviewer got the top of the line unit with Intel Core i7 but there mentioned that there's an Intel Core i3 variant as well? I got attracted by it, and the specs of the Intel Core i3 variant looks perfect for my need, so should I get it over the Asus X554LJ?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Lenovo U41 feature an integrated GPU?

From your list of options, the Asus X55 seems your best bet IMHO

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post Jul 30 2015, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(greedy5513 @ Jul 30 2015, 03:42 PM)
that's what i meant, I'll be working overseas, if anything goes wrong, dont know how to claim warranty.
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Where exactly will you be working overseas? AFAIK, Illegear has a service partner in the US, so getting your laptop fixed there will not be too much of an issue.
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post Aug 3 2015, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Aug 3 2015, 12:54 PM)
problem is i not sure i'll play those kind of game alot or not xD

currently i play LoL, Dota 2 , Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Heroes of the Storm, CS:GO
for all these GTX960M can run ultra with high FPS?

sked ended up buy gtx970 then i dont play all those game , then go to waste d
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I would recommend the GTX 970M now and upgrade the RAM and SSD on your own volition later. As pointed out by Illegear's rep, the GPU is soldered on and cannot be changed. This means that getting the better GPU would result in a better future proof rig as there is no telling if you're gonna get hooked on a more demanding game... Or if you end up hooking your laptop to a 4k monitor tongue.gif

Also, its usually cheaper to buy an equivalent RAM and/or SSD upgrade from an IT shop and install it yourself than taking it as an upgrade direct from the notebook manufacturer, which means that you would technically save yourself a few bucks in the long run.

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post Aug 3 2015, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Aug 3 2015, 07:08 PM)
thanks for the input sifus, i've decided to go with the 970 already with a trial windows 7, like that i save the extra rm300+, and able to wait for windows 10 to stabilise first, then i'll buy it's license.

btw if i use windows 8, the upgrade to windows 10 is permanent? or i've to pay later on?
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If you're using an original version of Windows 8.1 Core or Pro versions AND upgrade within a year, then yes.
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post Aug 3 2015, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Aug 3 2015, 07:33 PM)
windows 10 cost $119 estimated.

means if i get windows 8.1 (rm309) , then upgrade later on, more worth lo? @_@

or stick to window 7 trials,

upgrade to 10 in the future once it's stable.

which would u advise?
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If it were me, I'd get Windows 8.1 and upgrade sometime around Q2 of next year, before the upgrade option expires. Microsoft should have ironed out most of the bugs by then. Even if they haven't and you decide to stick to Windows 8.1, it wont be too much of a loss since it's a good OS by itself
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post Aug 3 2015, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Aug 3 2015, 09:06 PM)
btw the OS of laptops are binded permanently to it already rite, my old laptop's windows 7 license key cant transfer to this new d rite. jz to clarify
Nope, unless its OEM and came pre-installed originally as that would mean it's bound to your notebook's motherboard. Even so, there are grey-ish (legally speaking) ways around that such as calling Microsoft directly and asking them to reactivate the key. With a valid excuse, they'll reactivate the key and you'll be able to use it on a different notebook.

However, if you buy/bought a separate version of Windows then you can reuse that key however many times you want on different machines. Of course only one machine will be able to activate the key at a time, but you will be able to transfer the OS installation to your next notebook should need to do so.

QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Aug 3 2015, 09:06 PM)
and for ssd vs hdd,  the only difference will be speed of launching the program right, as for performance it depends on the processor and gpu?

and if I install OS on SSHD, and games on ssd (due to low space, many games). it won't work d rite?
Generally yes. SSDs tend to make your system feel extremely responsive and boost loading times greatly when compared to old school HDDs. This is mainly due to their exceptional random read/write performance that is unparalleled by mechanical parts.

So, keeping games on a HDD is perfectly acceptable as you wont see much of a gain in performance if you installed it on your SSD. At best you'll load games quicker, but not enough to warrant using up your SSD's precious space. Keep other stuff, such as your web browser and commonly used programs on the SSD instead and you can expect your notebook to be usable under 15 seconds (or less) from a cold boot.

Hope that helped

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Aug 3 2015, 11:44 PM)
trials version won't give problems other than the prompt license key notification rite
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I'm not too sure, but I think you'll run into problems accessing full functionality. That being said, you can extend the trial period with a simple command line prompt a few times. All in all, it's just a stopgap solution and you'll be wanting a legit copy of Windows sooner or later
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Aug 4 2015, 12:46 AM)
Hmm.. If i use Windows 7 trial, can I upgrade to Windows 10 straight through online?(By paying for Windows 10 license)
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I'm not too sure about this. Theoretically, you could pay for a Windows 7 key then perform the free upgrade to Windows 10 before the promotion window (no pun intended) closes. That would probably be a cheaper method than buying a Windows 10 key direct. However, due diligence is required to ensure that method would actually work.

I don't want to be responsible for you wasting money unnecessarily... tongue.gif

QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Aug 4 2015, 12:46 AM)
If I do this another way round, it would be troublesome to transfer the OS into the ssd in the future.
Or will there be lots of hassle moving to Windows 10 from Windows 7 trial?(Eg: reformatting )

Hence I'm considering the trial version.

Sry I ask so much haha..kinda new to computer stuff  sweat.gif
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This I can't answer as I don't have actual experience with Windows 10
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Aug 4 2015, 03:08 PM)
hmm but now there's no more basic windows 7 key rite? left only the professional ones , which cost rm500++
base on what illegear salesman told me
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Yeah, that's a fair point. I suppose getting keys will be increasingly hard since Windows 7 is getting pretty close to its EOL period. So, cheap Windows 8.1 key then? I think there are some for sale in the Garage Sales section of the forums. Not sure if they're OEM copies though.
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Aug 4 2015, 05:46 PM)
Trials for Windows 8 and 7 is the same right for now? Or the trial extension up to 120days is available to Windows 7 only?
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I think the Windows 8 trial version is limited to the Enterprise edition and is valid for only 90 days. Also, note that that is one of the few editions not eligible for the free upgrade to Windows 10.

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