hi guys need help here for a gaming laptop around price range of 4.5k below

1. Preferred Brand : Any, as long as built quality is good + ventilation
2. Budget : 3.5k to 4.5k
3. Usage : Gaming, Photo editing ( Lightroom ,Photoshop )
4. Preferred laptop/screen size 15 Inch

*Would like an extra SSD if possible and a GTX Card

btw as for illegear and cyberforce..
I've selected the custom spec for the illegear z5 and cyberforge s-15
the price diff are as follows : rm4508 vs rm 4592

Illegear z5
+Graphic card of GTX 960 4GB DDR 5
+IC Diamond Thermal compound
-Wifi Intel 7260 dualband

Cyberforge
-Graphic card of GTX 960 2GB DDR 5
+GC Extreme thermal compound
+128GB Samsung M2 SSD
+Killer WIFI

btw whats the diff between intel 7260 dualband and realtek 8723BE? thats the option for the wifi network card of the z5

Others are almost the same, which should i go for?
considering the built quality, does cyberforge up to par with z5's like everyone mentioned?
Thanks in advance

You would not like to carry the m4800 around, believe me, damn heavy like brick

Hmm whats xps? The z5 one not qhd? If comparing z5 to Asus rog 551Jw 017h http://gamershideout.com.my/index.php?rout...gory&path=60_66

Which one will be better ah?

hmm... i play starcraft, diablo, battlefield that kind of games.. 
as for screen, i think don't need QHD also can since I'm nt a pro-photog yet.

But that dell xps 15 seems over price thou..

like that i think i left with illegear already...

btw the illegear, if i get the 1TB Toshiba SSHD , do i need a 128GB SSD for programs that i frequently use?

and i've a SSD curently in my laptop's CD ROM slot with it's jacket, can i use it on the Illegear? ( not sure about illegear's built )

btw thanks for replying depite the time @1.30am 

cz of size.. m17 is heavy....and 17" with bigger... but among 15".. this m4800 kinda heavy    i jz saw 1 dell... that kinda satelite notebook type... if not mistaken.... build in bag... how much is it? saw they demo jz now for remote control and aoe network jamming.. 

how much that high end rugged here? latest price? i believe currently is outdated
what link? there is no link for on going conference.  its still on going. might release next month maybe. it dont think the detail will release to public yt.

basically, this report is 10% of everything.

LINK

You can consider the following models:
1. Asus GL552JX-DM174H 15.6” FHD , i7-4720 , 4GB , 1TB , GTX950 2GB , W8.1 : RM3074/-
2. Dell Inspiron 14 7447HD-71814G-DOS Laptop/ Notebook (i7-4710HQ, 1TB, 8GB, NV GTX850M, DOS) RM2,819/-

Personally, I would prefer the 7447. 

Cool, thanks.

Though if i saw correctly, Vostro usually comes with 1 year warranty while Inspiron comes with 2. 

Cheapest Inspiron i could find is inspiron-14-5458, it's i3 with 4Gb ram priced at Rm1849.

My 4 years old HP Pavilion dv6 already reach the end of "his" life..anytime will shutdown if overheat

So now I plan to get a new one, need some suggestions

Budget: 2.8k - 3.5k
Purpose: use to coding (freelance programmer now), normal usage like surf net, youtube or watch movie

Thanks in advance

7447 is very good mar. Sure need to promote a bit. 

its IT conference....

yes... illegear is better than asus..
1- that intel dual band is better
2-ssd might be expensive.. but little storage... 1tb is hybrid hdd + cheaper a bit than ssd + extra storage...
mSata is another  technology that boost up the storage.yes, u can use ur ssd...
3-if not mistaken... yes it can. because its a genuine lisence... but make sure its the same OS (home premium, pro, ultimate)

you're @ Defcon?

hmm i think i'll go with illegear bah, illegear will be better than Asus ROG rite, correct me if i'm wrong..

I need help with the following regarding illegear parts :
1) WiFi : Which is better? Intel Dual band AC7620 or Reatletk 8723BE?

2) 500GB Seagate SSD or Free upgrade to Toshiba 1TB Solid State Hybrid Drive?
   
    if i choose Toshiba 1TB SSHD, can i use my current 128GB SSD? not sure isit mSata or not, but its inside my Asus N56VZ's DVD rom drive with a jacket.

3) Can I use my Windows 7 license from my old laptop n56vz?

Thanks for the advise, I think i'll visit their store tml btw I saw they have killer WiFi for other models, killer WiFi and Intel dual band, whats the diff a?
Yea lo was wondering, they summore put free upgrade to 1TB sshd as a promotion
I think i'll take the ssd and then salvage my old computer d hdd and put inside

http://store.illegear.com/z-series/99-illegear-z5.html

There write 1tb , my bad, the 500gb is sshd zzzz... -.- sry..
Like that i use back my old ssd bah,
Btw if install Windows in 1tb sshd, and then my games/frequent use program put in ssd, will it work? As in the speed of opening the program, since I don't mind start up time.

i call it promotion   
Killer WIFI hv lots of good benifits
-usually use for high-performance networking adapters combine intelligence, control and superior wireless networking speed for online games, HD video, and high quality audio. 
-support dual bands (2.4 GHz and 5GHz)
-improve latency and jitter offering significant benefits over competing wireless adapters
-deliver higher data throughput rates over longer distances. 
-offers Bluetooth connectivity to offer the most flexible solution for high-performance networking.

dual band just a normal card...  cant fight killer wifi..

if da ssd/hdd in old computer still good.. can take it... even ram also.. if its ddr3. yes.. still can use..

thanks for the input sifu 
weird that they dont have the killer wifi option for the z5, ltr i go ask them and see..

btw as for the graphic card, is it worth to invest the extra rm799 for the upgrade from GTX960 4GB DDR5 to GTX970 3GB DDR5

it seems there's a significant difference base on the bench mark test
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-970M-vs-GeForce-GTX-960M
they provide d is crucial M550 mSata SSD 256 GB for rm569 , 256GB ssd or gtx970 graphic card 

problem is i not sure i'll play those kind of game alot or not xD

currently i play LoL, Dota 2 , Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Heroes of the Storm, CS:GO
for all these GTX960M can run ultra with high FPS?

sked ended up buy gtx970 then i dont play all those game , then go to waste d

Looking for a laptop. Any recommendation?

1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - RM4000
3. Usage - Software Development with VM
4. Preferred
    a) Free DOS
    b) >10GB RAM
    c) FHD Screen