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TSStella Tee
post Mar 24 2015, 12:30 PM, updated 11y ago

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Hi guysss, I am SPM 2014 leaver. I m very confused, puzzled and in a deep dilemma right now. I found that Aimst is quite affordable for me to study medic/pharmacy there, and for UCSI I think my parents would be a bit stressed but still Ok unless i hv partial scholarship offer cry.gif . Anyone have any comments regarding the medical faculty of Aimst and UCSI?Which's better in terms of quality of lecturers and facilities(e.g. medical equipment)? Do these two unis have human cadavers for their medical faculty?

1) AIMST in Kedah
~foundation in science: 11k but hv scholarship offer 1k(no terms and condition), so total tuition fee is 9.8k
~living cost (for each semester) : RM530 ONLY !!!!!
~MBBS : 285k ptptn loan: 150k
~Pharmacy : 108k ptptn loan: 68k
~dentistry : 285k ptptn loan: 85k
***NO scholarship for degree programme

2) UCSI in KL
~foundation in science : 19240 but scholarship offer around 9k(terms and condition: have to maintain CGPA of 3.0 in every semester), so TOTAL fee is 11067
~living cost i think around 1k every month, right?
~MD : 317k ptptn loan: 150k
~Pharmacy : 143k ptptn loan: 68k
***Scholarship applicants for MD and Pharmacy must pass an admission interview and gain average CGPA of 3.8 result in foundation in science~Successful applicants hv 10-30% partial scholarship offer. Is the admission inetrview difficult??

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post Mar 24 2015, 12:33 PM

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living in kl 1 k is enough for pay for room rental + few bills
no included eat
TSStella Tee
post Mar 24 2015, 04:07 PM

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waa.....really??!! 1k for accommodation only == then, how about the monthly expense of meals? Sir, may i know which college re u studying? sorry for my broken English ==
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post Mar 24 2015, 07:46 PM

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AIMST is a university dedicated to health sciences. So I think AIMST would be better.
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post Mar 24 2015, 08:52 PM

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AIMST will be better compare to UCSI in health sciences
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post Mar 24 2015, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Stella Tee @ Mar 24 2015, 12:30 PM)
Hi guysss, I am SPM 2014 leaver. I m very confused, puzzled and in a deep dilemma right now. I found that Aimst is  quite affordable for me to study medic/pharmacy there, and for UCSI I think my parents would be a bit stressed but still Ok unless i hv partial scholarship offer cry.gif  . Anyone have any comments regarding the medical faculty of Aimst and UCSI?Which's better in terms of quality of lecturers and facilities(e.g. medical equipment)? Do these two unis have human cadavers for their medical faculty?

1) AIMST in Kedah
~foundation in science: 11k but hv scholarship offer 1k(no terms and condition), so total tuition fee is 9.8k
~living cost (for each semester) : RM530 ONLY !!!!!
~MBBS : 285k    ptptn loan: 150k
~Pharmacy : 108k    ptptn loan: 68k
~dentistry : 285k    ptptn loan: 85k
***NO scholarship for degree programme

2) UCSI in KL
~foundation in science : 19240 but scholarship offer around 9k(terms and condition: have to maintain CGPA of 3.0 in every semester), so TOTAL fee is 11067
~living cost i think around 1k every month, right?
~MD : 317k  ptptn loan: 150k
~Pharmacy : 143k  ptptn loan: 68k
***Scholarship applicants for MD and Pharmacy must pass an admission interview and gain average CGPA of 3.8 result in foundation in science~Successful applicants hv 10-30% partial scholarship offer. Is the admission inetrview difficult??
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UCSI Much better I guess, they has established the programme for almost 15 year by now for Pharmacy and 12 years for MD , in fact why do you wish to study in Kampung not City? never been to AIMST before, but been to UCSI, they have separate lab for MD and Pharmacy, check out with the Board of Pharmacy singapore or Australia, how many students from UCSI and Aimst accepted there, UCSI well recognized in both country at the same time UCSI calloborate be USM which the only Uni recognized by Singapore Board, check with the Board of Pharmacy as well, then only you can make your decision ...good luck

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post Mar 24 2015, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Skyler_Airman @ Mar 24 2015, 09:13 PM)
check out with the Board of Pharmacy singapore or Australia, how many students from UCSI and Aimst accepted there, UCSI well recognized in both country at the same time UCSI calloborate be USM which the only Uni recognized by Singapore Board, check with the Board of Pharmacy as well, then only you can make your decision ...good luck
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none of both aimst and ucsi's health sciences qualifications are recognised outside of msia....not by spore, not by australia.....
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post Mar 25 2015, 06:28 PM

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Not many unis in Malaysia provide cadaver dissections as training these days, not that I know of. UCSI doesn't, not sure of AIMST.

As for pharm in Aus, it's oversaturated with pharmacists. And Doctors in training ie Interns. So think properly if you want to do Medicine.
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Allow me to introduce you to a third option: Quest International University Perak

Before I begin, allow me to warn you that although the medical course in this university has been given approval and a provisional accreditation, a full accreditation cannot be given as a full accreditation can only be given once the university has produced graduates. As of now, the first batch of medical students in this university are still in their third year, currently going through clinical rotations in Hospital Seri Manjung. Also, the university still does not have a full campus on its own, so right now the classes are held at three separate buildings in Ipoh.

With that being said, the university does have several cadavers for teaching and learning purposes, which I estimate to be around ten to twelve. A small number of body parts are reserved to keep them in pristine condition for display / examination purposes, but students are free to use the remaining cadavers for learning purposes as they see fit. Basically, this university is not lacking in terms of teaching materials (cadavers).
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post Mar 25 2015, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Mar 25 2015, 06:28 PM)
Not many unis in Malaysia provide cadaver dissections as training these days, not that I know of. UCSI doesn't, not sure of AIMST.

As for pharm in Aus, it's oversaturated with pharmacists. And Doctors in training ie Interns. So think properly if you want to do Medicine.
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REALLY??!! I know AIMST hv human cadavers but i heard that in the previous year almost 50 medic students in each group to study a cadaver sweat.gif For UCSI, i don`t know and hvnt ask == May i know where re u studying or graduated from? I heard AIMST is dropping and most of their lecturers hv left cry.gif UCSI fee is a bit higher hmm.gif I m really really at a loss now icon_question.gif
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post Mar 25 2015, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Mar 25 2015, 06:28 PM)
Not many unis in Malaysia provide cadaver dissections as training these days, not that I know of. UCSI doesn't, not sure of AIMST.

As for pharm in Aus, it's oversaturated with pharmacists. And Doctors in training ie Interns. So think properly if you want to do Medicine.
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REALLY??!! I know AIMST hv human cadavers but i heard that in the previous year almost 50 medic students in each group to study a cadaver sweat.gif For UCSI, i don`t know and hvnt ask == May i know where re u studying or graduated from? I heard AIMST is dropping and most of their lecturers hv left cry.gif UCSI fee is a bit higher hmm.gif I m really really at a loss now icon_question.gif
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post Mar 25 2015, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(Archmage Warlic @ Mar 25 2015, 07:31 PM)
Allow me to introduce you to a third option: Quest International University Perak

Before I begin, allow me to warn you that although the medical course in this university has been given approval and a provisional accreditation, a full accreditation cannot be given as a full accreditation can only be given once the university has produced graduates. As of now, the first batch of medical students in this university are still in their third year, currently going through clinical rotations in Hospital Seri Manjung. Also, the university still does not have a full campus on its own, so right now the classes are held at three separate buildings in Ipoh.

With that being said, the university does have several cadavers for teaching and learning purposes, which I estimate to be around ten to twelve. A small number of body parts are reserved to keep them in pristine condition for display / examination purposes, but students are free to use the remaining cadavers for learning purposes as they see fit. Basically, this university is not lacking in terms of teaching materials (cadavers).
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After QIUP hv produced their first batch of medic graduates, their medical course sure get full accreditation by MQA and MMC?? How`s the quality of lecturers and facilities like medical equipment there? Are you QIUP medic student? drool.gif
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post Mar 25 2015, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 24 2015, 10:34 PM)
none of both aimst and ucsi's health sciences qualifications are recognised outside of msia....not by spore, not by australia.....
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Hello, I hv seen ur comments in several posts related to medical school. May i know where re u studying or graduated from? I really need help cry.gif i m at my wit`s end now. What do you think about AIMST and/or UCSI? Which one you recommend in terms of quality of lecturers and facilities?
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post Mar 25 2015, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Stella Tee @ Mar 24 2015, 12:30 PM)
Do these two unis have human cadavers for their medical faculty?
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Cadeveric dissections aren't really as important as people think they are. I didn't find them particularly useful and unless you are extremely partial to the surgical sciences, most doctors forget a good chunk of their anatomy by the time they enter clinical practice anyway. The important bits of anatomy that you'll need for all specialties can be very easily learnt without the help of human cadavers. As such, this is really quite a trivial aspect in the selection of medical schools.

QUOTE(Archmage Warlic @ Mar 25 2015, 07:31 PM)
Allow me to introduce you to a third option: Quest International University Perak

Before I begin, allow me to warn you that although the medical course in this university has been given approval and a provisional accreditation, a full accreditation cannot be given as a full accreditation can only be given once the university has produced graduates. As of now, the first batch of medical students in this university are still in their third year, currently going through clinical rotations in Hospital Seri Manjung. Also, the university still does not have a full campus on its own, so right now the classes are held at three separate buildings in Ipoh.

With that being said, the university does have several cadavers for teaching and learning purposes, which I estimate to be around ten to twelve. A small number of body parts are reserved to keep them in pristine condition for display / examination purposes, but students are free to use the remaining cadavers for learning purposes as they see fit. Basically, this university is not lacking in terms of teaching materials (cadavers).
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God no. No.

My home back in Ipoh is about 500m from QUIP's main campus and let me assure you, it is quite a sorry excuse for a university, let alone a medical school. It has no proper campus, with it's main block occupying a few middle stories of an old Wisma. As for the 'medical school', it is housed in what used to be an old gymnasium that was renovated. Quite an underwhelming sight to be honest. They plaster their advertisements shamelessly all over Ipoh on posters and streetlights, and if a school has to resort to that to attract students, I dare not imagine the actual state of their courses. QUIP is also another medical school that 'magically' popped-up from the ground with plenty of political strings attached.

I would strongly advise people to think twice about studying at QUIP. Especially for medicine.

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post Mar 25 2015, 08:12 PM

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cadavers are not vital to medical education....many established med schools all over the world have dispense with it....

if one only wants to work in msia, it doesn't really matter which med school....anyone meeting your budget and convenience will do...none are outstanding anyway....
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post Mar 25 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Stella Tee @ Mar 25 2015, 07:35 PM)
REALLY??!! I know AIMST hv human cadavers but i heard that in the previous year almost 50 medic students in each group to study a cadaver  sweat.gif  For UCSI, i don`t know and hvnt ask == May i know where re u studying or graduated from? I heard AIMST is dropping and most of their lecturers hv left cry.gif UCSI fee is a bit higher  hmm.gif I m really really at a loss now  icon_question.gif
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As limeuu said. If you want to work in Msia, any local/private uni that you can get into. Well in Malaysia's case, more of what you can afford, sadly that's the truth. If you are money strapped, STPM/matriks --> local uni pathway will be the way to go. I don't think there will be much difference in terms of teaching/education quality for both these uni, however don't quote me on that, that's just my personal opinion. Same goes to most of the private unis out there offering medicine. (well some are more chaotic than others, QUIP is one of them, CUCMS is another i think) So it comes down to the rest:

1. Choosing your college path: choose a general one, not those foundation programs binding you to one uni.
2. Think properly in terms of doing medicine. It's horrible. but if you love it, it's still horrible, and rewarding.
3. Think properly in terms of doing medicine.
4. Repeat step 2-3.
5. Research heaps. University, the course, future prospect, postgrad.

Good luck! smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2015, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(BrachialPlexus @ Mar 25 2015, 08:10 PM)
Cadeveric dissections aren't really as important as people think they are. I didn't find them particularly useful and unless you are extremely partial to the surgical sciences, most doctors forget a good chunk of their anatomy by the time they enter clinical practice anyway. The important bits of anatomy that you'll need for all specialties can be very easily learnt without the help of human cadavers. As such, this is really quite a trivial aspect in the selection of medical schools.


Thanks for ur advice ya notworthy.gif I wake up to reality already^^ If I choose UCSI, what do u think? Am i taking a risk or taking a chance? == bcoz the fee is a bit high. I m afraid that my parents can`t afford the fee unless i get the partial scholarship offer. If that time my parents really can`t afford it, i think i`ll choose biotechnology. How`s the career prospect and salary of biotechnology? Do you know the quality of lecturers at AIMST and UCSI?

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post Mar 25 2015, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 25 2015, 08:12 PM)
cadavers are not vital to medical education....many established med schools all over the world have dispense with it....

if one only wants to work in msia, it doesn't really matter which med school....anyone meeting your budget and convenience will do...none are outstanding anyway....
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Thanks for ur advice too....UCSI is only affordable if i get partial scholarship offer, not knowing i can pass the admission interview and scholarship interview as well as CGPA of 3.8 or not cry.gif If i choose UCSI, seems like taking risk, right? How`s the quality of lecturers at AIMST and UCSI? How`s the career prospect of biotechnology?
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post Mar 25 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Mar 25 2015, 08:21 PM)
As limeuu said. If you want to work in Msia, any local/private uni that you can get into. Well in Malaysia's case, more of what you can afford, sadly that's the truth. If you are money strapped, STPM/matriks --> local uni pathway will be the way to go. I don't think there will be much difference in terms of teaching/education quality for both these uni, however don't quote me on that, that's just my personal opinion. Same goes to most of the private unis out there offering medicine. (well some are more chaotic than others, QUIP is one of them, CUCMS is another i think) So it comes down to the rest:

1. Choosing your college path: choose a general one, not those foundation programs binding you to one uni.
2. Think properly in terms of doing medicine. It's horrible. but if you love it, it's still horrible, and rewarding.
3. Think properly in terms of doing medicine.
4. Repeat step 2-3.
5. Research heaps. University, the course, future prospect, postgrad.

Good luck! smile.gif
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Actually, the reason i choose Mbbs/ pharmcay is that I wish to work in hospital or clinic. But i don`t know my strength of will can help me go through all the difficulties or not == I don`t know i can make it or not sweat.gif really puzzled... How about the biotechnology and its career prospect?
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post Mar 25 2015, 10:06 PM

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what is your spm results?.....

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