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andrew9292
post Mar 27 2015, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Mar 27 2015, 06:28 PM)
That's the problem with these 18650 batteries. I gather yellow is LG, blue is Samsung, green is Panasonic but how do we know it actually is? It could be a cheap low quality China battery.  hmm.gif

I think I'll change all batteries to those that has printed brand on it.
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QUOTE(uniquexme @ Mar 27 2015, 06:59 PM)
I am also curious why brands are not printed on these 18650 batteries just like those typical AA. It only has printed wording and then another white sticker over it showing the voltage and MAH. So which one of the 3 has the highest discharging rate and MAH? If not wrong 30A is the highest discharge rate available? What are these 18650 batteries mean for actually? I have a super bright torch light that uses these 18650 batteries too but it has a nipple on its + terminal.
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Those batteries are usually factory / distributor direct & they are usually meant for laptop battery cell rebuilds. Yes they can also be used for other purposes, including vaping. The info of the battery is usually available on their datasheet. Since we don't have datasheet, the closest alternative you can think of is to Google the model number. Open a few results can make sure the info is identical. Eg. ''Samsung INR18650-25R spec'' Idk why many Malaysian vape stores and online store fail to provide full info.

Anyways, you can use this link too. http://www.steam-engine.org/batt.asp

You need to know the name and model number of the battery first.
Then, click battery preset & select your battery.
Don't touch anything else.
The amp limit, capacity, nominal voltage & c-rating is there

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On another note, that link (under 'coil wrapping' tab) allows you to build a coil without an ohm meter.
I've tried it, as long as you know how it works & what every figure means, you can build a coil within .2ohm of your target.
But for safety, always use a resistance meter to check.

You must use 'coil wrapping' together with 'battery drain'. It's easier if you both open each in a separate tab on your browser
You need to get your battery wattage based on your desired resistance at different voltages.
Then input the wattage in 'heat flux' under coil wrapping tab. For example, my batt as mentioned above @ 0.5ohm. build will give you about 35W at fully charge 4.2v, it goes down to 20+W at 3.5v...

Hence, now go to coil wrapping. After selecting your wire, gauge, your coil setup, resistance and other figures...
Put that watt in 'heat flux' and check the mW/mm² figure between min & max wattage is between 220 - 310 for (generally) thick clouds (for mech mod). If you cannot achieve that, you need to adjust the resistance of your build etc. For every change in resistance, go back to the battery tab and get the new range of wattage. Redo the heat flux section.

For VV/VW mod, you dont really need to worry about this as you can adjust the volt/wattage to your liking on your mod, but if you are recoiling, it's a good idea to know how hot it gets at a specific watt/volt setting.

Under batt drain, you can also check how much 'safety headroom' you have at a specific ohm & voltage. >55% headroom is recommended. Really good shit.

Again, this is for the advanced & precise fellas, dont mess around if you are sloppy or dont know what you are doing, things can go boom easily.

These link should be included at the 1st post for DIY fellas:
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp
http://www.steam-engine.org/batt.asp

One of my prev single coil build
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andrew9292
post Mar 29 2015, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(nchengwai5 @ Mar 29 2015, 02:24 PM)
Vamped batteries are not 40 amps they are just rewrap batteries. Don't get them there are no 40 amp batteries on the market yet no matter what companies claim. Only 30 amp bats are the vtc4 or the samsung 15B or LGHB2
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QUOTE(tulang_ikan @ Mar 29 2015, 04:13 PM)
Thanks for the clarification bro..
As for now I'm very satisfied with LGHE4..
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Sony US26650VT / Panasonic_CGR26650A ; a 50A max drain battery
Vappower 26650 / Vamp 26650 ; a 40A max drain batt

There are no authentic/verified 40A 18650 in the market.
The highest would be Efest IMR 18650 @35A.
There is an IMREN 18650 & maybe a few others claiming 40A, but it's disputed & i think, no tests to verify suitability for vaping.

You can see all the battery listed above at this link. Click battery preset & select the battery
http://www.steam-engine.org/batt.asp?b=Efe...0&mah=2500&c=14

Even on a 0.5ohm coil, with the Efest IMR 18650 35A as example, you need to vape at 17.5V or 612.5W to pull 35Amps completely, which is impossible.
Use the calc to see how your batt peforms.
People get higher discharge battery for safety reasons. It's safer to pull 8A over a 35A batt, than 8A over 10A batt
There is also a difference between maximum discharge & continuous discharge rate, but often the majority wont be near either limits.

Edit: correction

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andrew9292
post Mar 29 2015, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(wan.ridzuan @ Mar 29 2015, 09:03 PM)
Btw LG battery and charger rm70 ok or not
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LG what model? Charger what model? I know TrustFire/Xtar is a popular charger among beginners. The price is acceptable but you get what you pay for...
http://lygte-info.dk/review/Review%20Charg...R-001%20UK.html
http://lygte-info.dk/review/Review%20Charg...R-006%20UK.html (if lazy just read conclusion)

Other chargers, CTRL+F and search your model:
http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/indexBatteri...rgers%20UK.html

Not all chargers are made equal... I've used trustfire & it took more than 12hrs to charge my batt to an acceptable level (2 slot occupied). I only sleep about 6hrs.lol. Now using a Nitecore i4 and it's only ard 5 hours max... Battery also same, there can be better alternative at same price depend on model

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post Apr 17 2015, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(pyrovier1689 @ Apr 16 2015, 05:59 PM)
Hallo peeps
just wanted to ask , does anybody have issues with recottoning the subtank mini RBA , always spitback ?
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I used to have that problem also...

1) (Wicking/power) Too much juice too little power, juice is being sucked up by air pressure. Little/ok vapor, alot juice.
2) (Wicking/power) Too much juice too much power, juice is being flashed boiled & 'explodes'. Air pressure sucks it up with the vapor. Alot of vapor, alot of juice.
3) (Coil position/air pressure) Coil too high, the air is coming in & up like a jet-stream? If single coil, try to move the coil nearer to the bottom airhole, but dont touch or block it, at least 1mm clearance, no more than about 2mm. Beware of shorts!

It's okay to have some condensed juice in the drip tip & some rare spits into mouth I guess. Bt if it's too much then gotta work smth out...
Just sharing experience biggrin.gif Hope helps somewhat icon_rolleyes.gif Drippers are much forgiving on the wicking & power/juice balancing part but not convenient cry.gif

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