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TSohman
post Mar 18 2015, 10:47 PM, updated 11y ago

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Disapperance of Lisanne Froon & Kris Kremers, two Dutch girls who went missing while on a hike in the Panama jungle. 10 weeks later bone fragments and a backpack were found. These pictures were from a camera in the backpack. What happened to them is a mystery.

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last proper photo
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the rest are dark
as if they are using flash to find the road.

photo taken 8 days later, location unknown
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SUSRichard Parker
post Mar 18 2015, 10:49 PM

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Feels a bit like the Blair witch project.
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post Mar 18 2015, 10:50 PM

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post Mar 18 2015, 10:52 PM

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post Mar 18 2015, 10:52 PM

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post Mar 18 2015, 10:54 PM

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Phone and off most probably to conserve battery. Maybe got injured, tried to call help, no line, some wild beast got to them
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post Mar 18 2015, 10:55 PM

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catch by orang bunian
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post Mar 18 2015, 11:01 PM

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TSohman
post Mar 18 2015, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(kaoshi @ Mar 18 2015, 11:01 PM)
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why?
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post Mar 18 2015, 11:08 PM

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post Mar 18 2015, 11:08 PM

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probably got injured, lost in the forest, use camera flash as source of light at night. Sadly some animal got to them
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post Mar 18 2015, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE
Just wandered into the websleuths thread and found this post:
"Use of their Canon SX270 camera

The recent Telegraaf article (Saturday October 4th) based on the Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI) report concerning the contents of their backback quotes "involved sources" thus:
The final seventy of the 133 sequential photos "appear to have been taken from a deep, dark location, almost certainly after sunset and presumably featuring a large amount of overhanging vegetation." The photos were taken "on April 8th during the night, presumably to draw attention."
That matches the already documented period of night photography between 01:00 and 04:00 on Tuesday 8th. This happens to be the first night out for a rescue team, said to have used light and sound signals. These are not described in detail, but a rescue party would normally use a Very pistol to send up a series of white parachute flares to indicate their own position.

It seems plausible that the women saw the light signals. How could they answer them? Apparently they didn't have the standard orange plastic whistle hikers usually carry. Wonderful piece of kit - costs little, weighs grams, makes a hell of a lot of noise. But tropical mountain woodland won't carry any sound very far, even in the almost windless conditions prevailing that night. And they did have a light source; their camera's flash.
But they couldn't aim that flash directly at the rescue team. Too many trees in the way. They were somewhere near a narrow river, with tall woodland on both sides. But they could see a patch of sky. Did it make sense to flash roughly vertically upwards? The reliable source of historical hourly weather data (links below) skips these particular hours, but highish humidity and partial cloud cover are on the cards. Perhaps they fired the flash a couple of times and saw some Tyndall scattering - like you would see a searchlight beam in damp or dusty conditions. In any case, they had nothing to lose and would certainly fail if they didn't try.
So they tried for hours. But the fingernail-sized flash of their pocket camera was too weak, or there wasn't much scattering and all the light just disappeared straight up. The dark frames themselves show no significant reflections. This is perhaps the most heartbreaking part of their ordeal."


https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysterie...is_kremers_two/
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this is why you should nokia here maps

got offline maps

no cellular data still got a map to use!!!

stupid google maps useless without data

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post Mar 18 2015, 11:20 PM

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they wander around to an unknown places without a guide, rainforest is a huge place, u can easily be lost if u are not careful....
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post Mar 18 2015, 11:23 PM

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rule #1 when travelling to no mans land is to always inform local authority about your routes
Rule #2 always carry a freaking whistle

RIP, may their soul rest in peace
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post Mar 18 2015, 11:30 PM

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Kesian the lady... sad.gif
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post Mar 18 2015, 11:38 PM

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post Mar 18 2015, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Mar 18 2015, 11:13 PM)
this is why you should nokia here maps

got offline maps

no cellular data still got a map to use!!!

stupid google maps useless without data
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google maps got offline version but its not implemented on our malaysian maps ~ tongue.gif
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post Mar 18 2015, 11:50 PM

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Damn scary. Heck of a story.
These girls are very foolish to venture into the jungle on their own without a local guide.

Thats the thing with the matsallehs...they are always looking out for these risky adventures.
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post Mar 19 2015, 12:04 AM

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Sedih tu sedih jugak, tapi depa memang cari penyakit sendiri.

Orang masuk hutan mesti ada survival kit. Habih koman pun, bawak flashlight LED yang terang gila tu. Yang original habih koman RM200 lebih, bukan mahal sangat.

Moral kisah ini: JANGAN CARI PENYAKIT. Tak bersedia masuk hutan, jangan masuk hutan.

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