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post Mar 18 2015, 06:37 AM, updated 10y ago

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http://www.motortrader.com.my/news/pricess...ctiv-announced/



-assembled at the Inokom plant in Kulim, Kedah

-Excluding insurance premium, the entry-level sedan variant is priced at RM105,000 while the top variant is priced at RM125,000. In between is the hatchback which has a pricetag of RM119,000

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post Mar 18 2015, 08:13 AM

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Slight turn off is just the cabin and boot space, everything else, it kicks Toyota and Honda butts
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QUOTE(slaveone @ Mar 18 2015, 08:13 AM)
Slight turn off is just the cabin and boot space, everything else,  it kicks Toyota and Honda butts
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mazda has been known for its limited boot space and cabin, its a driver's car in nature where else the later two is more of a practical car.

good job for mazda 3 ckd on the additions of acc compared to cbu.
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post Mar 18 2015, 09:24 AM

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just wish that the mid spec come with push start and keyless. sigh. otherwise, straight punch to the civic nuts.
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the price seems okay for me
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post Mar 18 2015, 09:35 AM

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ckd vs cbu what diff worr
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post Mar 18 2015, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(lanusb @ Mar 18 2015, 09:35 AM)
ckd vs cbu what diff worr
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As per Paul Tan blog.. High Spec CKD Vs CBU

"More extra kit over the CBU come in the form of High Beam Control, Smart City Brake System (autonomous braking from 4 to 30 km/h), Rear Vehicle Monitoring (Mazda’s version of Volvo BLIS) and Lane Departure Warning. What about the kit that you lose? Only two things – i-Eloop (regenerative braking) and sunroof – are missing from the CBU vs high-spec CKD bout."


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post Mar 18 2015, 09:48 AM

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wait for the car in showroom first. CKD can mean a lot of things being locally made, thus compromising on the quality.
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post Mar 18 2015, 10:00 AM

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A bit disappointed there is no high spec trim for the hatchback.

Nonetheless, well done Bermaz.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 18 2015, 06:37 AM)
http://www.motortrader.com.my/news/pricess...ctiv-announced/
-assembled at the Inokom plant in Kulim, Kedah

-Excluding insurance premium, the entry-level sedan variant is priced at RM105,000 while the top variant is priced at RM125,000. In between is the hatchback which has a pricetag of RM119,000
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Good car from bermas/mazda, good safety and features. Umw altis and Honda civic will feel the heat.
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ckd its okla, maybe got extra sounds for ckd version?
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QUOTE(lanusb @ Mar 18 2015, 11:26 AM)
ckd its okla, maybe got extra sounds for ckd version?
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kiok kiok sound is it? brows.gif

QUOTE(muttly @ Mar 18 2015, 11:58 AM)
Still with the Bose speakers?
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QUOTE(xin @ Mar 18 2015, 09:22 AM)
mazda has been known for its limited boot space and cabin, its a driver's car in nature where else the later two is more of a practical car.

good job for mazda 3 ckd on the additions of acc compared to cbu.
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Yeah...always small inside...i kennot brain, if they have extra 2 inches legroom, surely the market will be bigger. Will adding 2inches legroom sacrifice the handling and fun factor? I doubt it.

Anyway, dissapointed the mid version dun have auto-cruise...i will pay extra RM5K just for auto-cruise.

But all in all, RM105k is a very good price, 6 airbags, TSC, 2.0 engine....Cerato 1.6 also 100k rite?

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Yeah Cerato 2.0 is around RM118k
good looking car wor this mazda 3... c segment car that i can say have good looks+gadgets are mazda 3 and cerato
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how about the after sales / service by Mazda (Berjaya auto)?
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Cabin and boot for cars with multilink suspension at the rear is always smaller unlike torsion beam

It is the same for other C segments rear multilnk suspension, e.g. Ford Focus, and even crossovers like Mitsubishi ASX

It is a battle between nicer car handling or nicer to your rear passenger
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A vs video between M3 and Civic FB. i find this German review more surreal compared to US typical reviews. Worth to check it out, how true is it i am not sure. Awaiting actual M3 owners to comment.


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QUOTE(xin @ Mar 19 2015, 09:19 AM)
A vs video between M3 and Civic FB. i find this German review more surreal compared to US typical reviews. Worth to check it out, how true is it i am not sure. Awaiting actual M3 owners to comment.


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http://m.themalaymailonline.com/drive/arti...da-3-ckd-buyers

Pleasant surprise in store for buyers? Malay mail reported,


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post Mar 20 2015, 11:31 AM

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compared to Ford Focus

http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/10745...-3-compare-cars

good read
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 19 2015, 07:00 AM)
Cabin and boot for cars with multilink suspension at the rear is always smaller unlike torsion beam

It is the same for other C segments rear multilnk suspension, e.g. Ford Focus, and even crossovers like Mitsubishi ASX

It is a battle between nicer car handling or nicer to your rear passenger
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u have a chance to rephrase your statement
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QUOTE(bladekiller @ Mar 18 2015, 03:57 PM)
how about the after sales / service by Mazda (Berjaya auto)?
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Worse SC i came across here in JB . n ive been to Mitsu/Proton too.

They simply need to vamp up / more SC here in JB


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holy cow, 5 stars full marks, no joke

http://www.caranddriver.com/mazda/mazda-3


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another good report

http://www.nwherald.com/2015/03/18/mazda-3...egment/avdtlk8/
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Heard that the CKD doesn't come in Soul Red?
Planning to make a visit to showroom but have been busy over the past few weekends.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 20 2015, 01:02 PM)
holy cow, 5 stars full marks, no joke

http://www.caranddriver.com/mazda/mazda-3
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The report is 2.5L skyactiv version. Any idea will Bermaz bringing in this version? I find the 2L version not fast enough tongue.gif
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AND OLD CBU PRICES WOULD BE?
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Mar 20 2015, 12:53 PM)
Worse SC i came across here in JB . n ive been to Mitsu/Proton too.

They simply need to vamp up / more SC here in JB
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What happened?
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The report is 2.5L skyactiv version. Any idea will Bermaz bringing in this version? I find the 2L version not fast enough  tongue.gif
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No idea. Not insider leh
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 25 2015, 06:57 AM)
What happened?
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imagine a small area for all those workers table , a divider for manager room n yea .. a corner only with beat up sofas for customers.

Horrible.
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Mar 25 2015, 11:03 AM)
imagine a small area for all those workers table , a divider for manager room n yea .. a corner only with beat up sofas for customers.

Horrible.
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in a big city like jb? shocking.gif doh.gif mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 25 2015, 01:11 PM)
in a big city like jb?    shocking.gif  doh.gif  mega_shok.gif
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Yup. n get this.

Its rhe ONLY sc in JB

great effing car but sad SC really . 1 thing i hope after maz 2 n ckd maz 3 they at least make another 1

seeing their newest at Setia alam sc. its like different country!
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Mar 25 2015, 02:36 PM)
Yup. n get this.

Its rhe ONLY sc in JB

great effing car but sad SC really  . 1 thing i hope after maz 2 n ckd maz 3 they at least make another 1

seeing their newest at Setia alam sc. its like different country!
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so there are still hope wink.gif ,


....http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/2014-malaysia-customer-service-index-csi-study

Above report for Malaysia Customer service index by JD power put Mazda at behind Toyota, Nissan but Above Honda, i hope sincerely they are not so bad, but hearing your story...i am wondering if they deserve 4th place

anyway, like i say there is till hope
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 25 2015, 02:44 PM)
so there are still hope wink.gif ,
....http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/2014-malaysia-customer-service-index-csi-study

Above report for Malaysia Customer service index by JD power put Mazda at behind Toyota, Nissan but Above Honda, i hope sincerely they are not so bad, but hearing your story...i am wondering if they deserve 4th place

anyway, like i say there is till hope
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thing is , its only happen to JB , i know Selangor n KL got superb well.. above average SCs, they even got special Paint n Repair centre!

not here in JB tho.. bring somthing nice to us! Bermas do somthing!
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Mar 25 2015, 02:47 PM)
thing is , its only happen to JB , i know Selangor n KL got superb well.. above average SCs, they even got special Paint n Repair centre!

not here in JB tho.. bring somthing nice to us! Bermas do somthing!
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Bermaz !, take heed of your car lover@JB's pain and improve wave.gif Hope SOMEONE from Bermaz is following this thread....
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Bermaz !, take heed of your car lover@JB's pain and improve wave.gif Hope SOMEONE from Bermaz is following this thread....
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Surely NOT the car I've been waiting for. biggrin.gif
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Still 3yrs/60k km warranty ?
While others 5yrs/unlimited mileage...
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Still 3yrs/60k km warranty ?
While others 5yrs/unlimited mileage...
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u forgot free service on that duration.

while others?
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post Mar 26 2015, 07:40 AM

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Anyway.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...ease/?style=biz

Mazda expect to sell here

15,000 for 2015 then;
18,000 for 2016

Very am.. bitious considering their 2013 sales was 9197 and 2014 was 11,382

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post Mar 30 2015, 11:23 AM

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The new Mazda 3 CKD is quite tempting with the features super loaded.

As usual, our concern would be:
1. Resale value
2. After sales support

It is ours to choose and decide
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congrats Mazda for scoring a hat-trick: Three new Mazdas, three more awards. The Japanese carmaker will take away accolades for the all-new Mazda MX-5, Mazda CX-3 and Mazda2 from the Red Dot Award: Product Design 2015 ceremony in June.

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i want to get a mx5 miata as my retirement car, Bermaz, please bring it in
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There is be more sales for Mazda in the year 2015 as Mazda 2 CBU, Mazda 3 CKD is around the corner, CX-3 (estimated July), Mazda 3 anyhow also win Cerato (kimchi car)
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So any LADs can explain to me the differences between CKD and CBU for Mazda 3 ? About the Specs of course !
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So any LADs can explain to me the differences between CKD and CBU for Mazda 3 ? About the Specs of course !
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High Specs
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FOR CBU: (Whats less)
Autocruise
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Windsheild Wiper
Leather Seats (optional)
Power Seat
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Whats more
Sunroof icon_idea.gif
Soul Red color (what i heard) whistling.gif
Snowflake pearl white (heard only flat white) whistling.gif

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QUOTE(derravile @ Mar 31 2015, 06:03 PM)
High Specs
FOR CKD
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FOR CBU: (Whats less)
Autocruise
Auto Dimming Rear View Mirror
Windsheild Wiper
Leather Seats (optional)
Power Seat
HUD
RVM
SCBS
LDWS

Whats more
Sunroof icon_idea.gif
Soul Red color (what i heard) whistling.gif
Snowflake pearl white (heard only flat white) whistling.gif
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Thanks bro for the comparison you made. So you are saying CKD is better in terms of specs ? Wow..

What about quality ? Really interested in Mazda 3 thou
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QUOTE(derravile @ Mar 31 2015, 06:03 PM)
High Specs
FOR CKD
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FOR CBU: (Whats less)
Autocruise
Auto Dimming Rear View Mirror
Windsheild Wiper
Leather Seats (optional)
Power Seat
HUD
RVM
SCBS
LDWS

Whats more
Sunroof icon_idea.gif
Soul Red color (what i heard) whistling.gif
Snowflake pearl white (heard only flat white) whistling.gif
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wow are you sure the soul red & snowflake pearl white will be coming for the CKD?. Last heard was for CKD color there will be no
soul red and pearl white available.

However, this is the colors that so call confirmed
1) Meteor Grey
2) Titanium Flash
3) Aluiminum
4) Pending....

and CKD high spec do comes with leather seat i suppose?
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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ Apr 1 2015, 03:14 PM)
Thanks bro for the comparison you made. So you are saying CKD is better in terms of specs ? Wow..

What about quality ? Really interested in Mazda 3 thou
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yes CKD specs is better...
quality, cant compare yet, its not out yet, but CBU quality also not tht good

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wow are you sure the soul red & snowflake pearl white will be coming for the CKD?. Last heard was for CKD color there will be no
soul red and pearl white available.

However, this is the colors that so call confirmed
1) Meteor Grey
2) Titanium Flash
3) Aluiminum
4) Pending....

and CKD high spec do comes with leather seat i suppose?
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what i meant, exclusive for CBU is the Soul Red & Snowflake Pearl White color, i heard CKD got flat white & black mebe
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QUOTE(derravile @ Apr 2 2015, 01:01 AM)
yes CKD specs is better...
quality, cant compare yet, its not out yet, but CBU quality also not tht good
what i meant, exclusive for CBU is the Soul Red & Snowflake Pearl White color, i heard CKD got flat white & black mebe
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owh yea..this is what the sales told me. maybe black or some other colors. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(derravile @ Apr 2 2015, 01:01 AM)
yes CKD specs is better...
quality, cant compare yet, its not out yet, but CBU quality also not tht good
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That is a bit weird thou. CKD better than a CBU. Anyway , i am just worried about the quality of CKD for after few years. Never owned a CKD car before.

Hope Black or Silver color will be available.

Thanks anyway
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Is Mazda 3 use DCT?
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No, using conventional automatic with torque converter + clutch, so you got the best of both worlds, torque converter when start up and switching gear, clutch engaged when stepping on the gas and climbing through the rev meter.
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Apr 2 2015, 08:41 PM)
No, using conventional automatic with torque converter + clutch, so you got the best of both worlds, torque converter when start up and switching gear, clutch engaged when stepping on the gas and climbing through the rev meter.
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With regards to the above pricing.

The HB is missing some nice features (Incl cruise control) compared to the high-spec Sedan yet it's the same price?
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2.0GL uses 185 tyres?

kinda skinny for the car eh.
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I suspect top range sedan pricing is in error.
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 3 2015, 06:09 PM)
I suspect top range sedan pricing is in error.
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WHY?

it should be higher? laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Apr 4 2015, 01:54 AM)
WHY?

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I only glanced through the spec but saw HB is fabric upholstery and sedan is leather. I would imagine sedan will be higher. Anyway the pricing is good and I think all 3 versions are going to kill the competition in the C segment!



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QUOTE(juicyliana @ Apr 3 2015, 05:17 PM)
2.0GL uses 185 tyres?

kinda skinny for the car eh.
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Ya should at least be 205 or 215.
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 4 2015, 09:30 AM)
I only glanced through the spec but saw HB is fabric upholstery and sedan is leather. I would imagine sedan will be higher. Anyway the pricing is good and I think all 3 versions are going to kill the competition in the C segment!
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I see.
But most hb sell pricier than their sedan counterpart, no? blink.gif
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Apr 4 2015, 09:56 AM)
I see.
But most hb sell pricier than their sedan counterpart, no?  blink.gif
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Not sure bout the others but the older version of Mazda 3 yes. HB is around RM5k more expensive.
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Good deal 👍

And glad to see conventional automatics used here. Hate those damn CVTs.

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Apr 4 2015, 09:56 AM)
I see.
But most hb sell pricier than their sedan counterpart, no?  blink.gif
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You are right, some cases that is trre cos the HB will have a different suspension setup. Like a more sporty suspension which will add to the cost. I may be wrong, everything appears the same but Sedan has leather upholstery.

You seem very keen, are you getting one. Which one?

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Hi All - SA told me also got mica blue colour. Any comments on white colour which is not snowflake white but normal white :/
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QUOTE(villageboy @ Apr 4 2015, 11:23 PM)
Hi All - SA told me also got mica blue colour. Any comments on
white colour which is not snowflake white but normal white :/
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 4 2015, 11:16 PM)
You are right, some cases that is trre cos the HB will have a different suspension  setup. Like a more sporty suspension which will add to the cost. I may be wrong, everything appears the same but Sedan has leather upholstery.

You seem very keen, are you getting one. Which one?
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yup, the HB is looking delicious.
YET, my internal me crave for a manual
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Apr 6 2015, 01:04 AM)
yup, the HB is looking delicious.
YET, my internal me crave for a manual
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If you are living/working in the Klang Valley, better go for auto. Day in day out kena traffic jam, cannot tahan la!

I am also looking at the HB,may be next year! Hope by that time got soul red for HB. My problem is I'm driving a turbo now, so find 2Liter NA underpowered......hmmm!
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 6 2015, 09:44 AM)
If you are living/working in the Klang Valley, better go for auto. Day in day out kena traffic jam, cannot tahan la!

I am also looking at the HB,may be next year! Hope by that time got soul red for HB. My problem is I'm driving a turbo now, so find 2Liter NA underpowered......hmmm!
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They said before once you go turbo you never turn back. Mazda 3 will not be your cup of tea unless you modified it
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 6 2015, 09:44 AM)
If you are living/working in the Klang Valley, better go for auto. Day in day out kena traffic jam, cannot tahan la!

I am also looking at the HB,may be next year! Hope by that time got soul red for HB. My problem is I'm driving a turbo now, so find 2Liter NA underpowered......hmmm!
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I work midnight shift. Traffic is not a problem for me tho.
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 6 2015, 09:44 AM)
If you are living/working in the Klang Valley, better go for auto. Day in day out kena traffic jam, cannot tahan la!

I am also looking at the HB,may be next year! Hope by that time got soul red for HB. My problem is I'm driving a turbo now, so find 2Liter NA underpowered......hmmm!
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Wow bro...u buying both a volvo v40 n a Mazda 3 next year???
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 6 2015, 11:44 AM)
Wow bro...u buying both a volvo v40 n a Mazda 3 next year???
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Not so kaya la bro. Just concerned long term maintenance on V40 will be high. Considering M3 HB as an option. But as bro melt said,once kena turbo no turning back. ATM rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 7 2015, 08:49 PM)
Not so kaya la bro. Just concerned long term maintenance on V40 will be high. Considering M3 HB as an option. But as bro melt said,once kena turbo no turning back. ATM  rclxub.gif
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Oh I see...

How Strange that we kinda share almost the same interest n taste when it comes to cars....
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Apr 4 2015, 10:41 AM)
Good deal 👍

And glad to see conventional automatics used here. Hate those damn CVTs.
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Why CVT no good or no pick up?

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 7 2015, 08:49 PM)
Not so kaya la bro. Just concerned long term maintenance on V40 will be high. Considering M3 HB as an option. But as bro melt said,once kena turbo no turning back. ATM  rclxub.gif
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Yeap. V40 maintainence is very high. In fact volvo service cost is on par with Merc.


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QUOTE(Rohan26 @ Apr 8 2015, 09:31 AM)
Why CVT no good or no pick up?

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linear pickup, no gear change feeling, droning. wink.gif

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 7 2015, 09:32 PM)
Oh I see...

How Strange that we kinda share almost the same interest n taste when it comes to cars....
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Hehehe.......... thumbup.gif At least u have a good reason to change.....to get a turbo car. I really don't have a reason....just gatal only!

QUOTE(kevin23 @ Apr 8 2015, 10:55 AM)
Yeap. V40 maintainence is very high. In fact volvo service cost is on par with Merc.
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Ayioo, this is real scary la! The more I read, the more I wanna stick on with my present car. It's a dream to drive,no issues and reasonable maintenance.

I think couple of days at the Thai border every now and then, is money better spent with a whole lot of more fun...... brows.gif !

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Cant brain why they dont give the hatchback the same specification.
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QUOTE(Rohan26 @ Apr 8 2015, 10:31 AM)
Why CVT no good or no pick up?

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The droning sound and "fake" shifting experience.
Its just me. Others might prefer CVTs.
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The new CKD version of Mazda 3 impressed me! Packed of toys / features. But I just have single concern; the air conditioning button setup. If only Mazda could give some setup like the dual zone aircond (as pic attached), it is much premier style to us thumbup.gif
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Sadly, the same single zone aircond and button setup is for both Mazda 3 and the new incoming CX-3 as well sad.gif
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After all, it was a good sign to see automotive market in Malaysia / manufacturer starting to set a high benchmark to please Malaysians taste for car (features i mean)

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Kodo of Mazda: the car, the bike and the couch

LOL but love it still the same

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QUOTE(metaled @ Apr 8 2015, 01:30 PM)
Cant brain why they dont give the hatchback the same specification.
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In bolehland, it's all a sales tactic......screw the public,maximize profits! In a lot of countries, hatchback will have more sporty suspension setup and this will cost a bit more than then sedan.
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Worse SC i came across here in JB . n ive been to Mitsu/Proton too.

They simply need to vamp up / more SC here in JB
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Mazda surely need to increase more SC in JB area.
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QUOTE(cokelatpanda @ Apr 8 2015, 11:21 AM)
linear pickup, no gear change feeling, droning.  wink.gif
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Apr 8 2015, 01:34 PM)
The droning sound and "fake" shifting experience.
Its just me. Others might prefer CVTs.
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That is the general CVT characteristics but better cars with better CVTs do not exhibit the droning sound too much. Though I agree the droning sound from the poorer quality CVTs commonly found in Proton cars is pretty bad.
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Test drive it..impressive car but road sound too loud..
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Has anyone who test driven the Mazda 3 CKD HB also drove the ford focus HB?
specs are almost the same. mazda wins hands down in terms of look. but how about driving experience? i heard the ford focus after discount only 113k and its cbu from thai

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Should I wait for the 2016 honda civic or go for Mazda 3 ckd now? I believe the mid spec Mazda 3 sedan is one of the most affordable 2.0 sedans (not taking into account Inspira) out in the market now, correct me if I am wrong.

So tempted to go the showroom right away but I am located in Ipoh and read some nasty reviews of the one and only dealer/sc in town.
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I went for the test drive d....pick-up like very slow and then quite noisy ler....car interior is also small like vios...maybe I'll go for CX5 instead.
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http://www.motortrader.com.my/news/new-veh...er-total-sales/

look at how Mazda has jumped. i have faith that it will become no. 6 after P2, P1, Toyota , Honda & Nissan

Thanks to Mazda 3 CKD , seeing them swarming on the road like populating rabbits, there is no stopping them
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I was going to book a Civic until the Mazda 3 came out and I jumped ship. The low spec M3 is cheaper than Civic 2.0 and more value for money.

Guys, please join the main Mazda 3 thread in Car Club https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3305342
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QUOTE(eddiezack @ Apr 17 2015, 12:13 AM)
Has anyone who test driven the Mazda 3 CKD HB also drove the ford focus HB?
specs are almost the same. mazda wins hands down in terms of look. but how about driving experience? i heard the ford focus after discount only 113k and its cbu from thai
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Can also consider Renault Fluence. Similar price and specs, more space, probably more oriented towards comfort.
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QUOTE(eddiezack @ Apr 17 2015, 12:13 AM)
Has anyone who test driven the Mazda 3 CKD HB also drove the ford focus HB?
specs are almost the same. mazda wins hands down in terms of look. but how about driving experience? i heard the ford focus after discount only 113k and its cbu from thai
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Ford Focus dry dual clutch suffer from juddering and grinding noise at low speed and overheating in heavy traffic jam forcing you to stop the car to cool down. The clutch pack will need to be replaced frequently and after warranty you are on your own. The issues are design related and cannot be solved. Do some research first.
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QUOTE(kluseng @ Apr 28 2015, 08:41 AM)
Ford Focus dry dual clutch suffer from juddering and grinding noise at low speed and overheating in heavy traffic jam forcing you to stop the car to cool down. The clutch pack will need to be replaced frequently and after warranty you are on your own. The issues are design related and cannot be solved. Do some research first.
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Out of the issues you mentioned about the Ford Focus, only the juddering is valid which is harmless as they are minor jerks when car is changing gears at low speed. There are no overheating and stopping the car to cool down issue that you cited. And the clutch pack that you said needs to be replaced frequently, Frequently as in once in a year? That is untrue information as well.

The Mazda 3 CKD is cheap and value for money, but being a CKD especially in Malaysia, it will likely have more rattling sound compared to the equivalent CBU model which is quite overpriced.
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Apr 28 2015, 09:08 AM)
Out of the issues you mentioned about the Ford Focus, only the juddering is valid which is harmless as they are minor jerks when car is changing gears at low speed. There are no overheating and stopping the car to cool down issue that you cited. And the clutch pack that you said needs to be replaced frequently, Frequently as in once in a year? That is untrue information as well.

The Mazda 3 CKD is cheap and value for money, but being a CKD especially in Malaysia, it will likely have more rattling sound compared to the equivalent CBU model which is quite overpriced.
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2 year old Focus clutch pack change, total damage RM8k. Luckily still under warranty. Other than the tranny the focus is a solid car.

Thai quality is just as bad as Malaysia maybe even worse. If it's CBU from Japan or Germany then there is difference.
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Apr 28 2015, 09:08 AM)
Out of the issues you mentioned about the Ford Focus, only the juddering is valid which is harmless as they are minor jerks when car is changing gears at low speed. There are no overheating and stopping the car to cool down issue that you cited. And the clutch pack that you said needs to be replaced frequently, Frequently as in once in a year? That is untrue information as well.

The Mazda 3 CKD is cheap and value for money, but being a CKD especially in Malaysia, it will likely have more rattling sound compared to the equivalent CBU model which is quite overpriced.
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Some Focus drivers have complained of transmission overheating in start stop traffic jam especially when going uphill. There are also owners who have to replace their clutch pack before 20k km in LYN Ford Focus forum.

Whether CKD in Malaysia, CKD in Thailand or CBU from Japan is no guarantee of quality especially vibrating, rattling sounds from cabin or squeaks when going over bumps. It depends on your luck and owners need to have the patience to get SC to solve the problem.

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any idea when the mps launching?
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QUOTE(rockets @ Apr 28 2015, 09:40 AM)
2 year old Focus clutch pack change, total damage RM8k. Luckily still under warranty. Other than the tranny the focus is a solid car.

Thai quality is just as bad as Malaysia maybe even worse. If it's CBU from Japan or Germany then there is difference.
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Yes, the Focus is one solid car. Noted on your clutch pack change on your 2-year old Focus.

As for CKD Thai of the Focus being as bad as Malaysian CKD, it will depend on which CKD model in Malaysia you are talking about. CKD Honda and Mazda models are usually the worse ones. Toyota and Nissan CKD models are known to be the better ones. The CBU Focus model although not great is generally higher quality in terms of assembly and rattling noises than CKD-Malaysian models.

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QUOTE(kluseng @ Apr 28 2015, 01:39 PM)
Some Focus drivers have complained of transmission overheating in start stop traffic jam especially when going uphill. There are also owners who have to replace their clutch pack before 20k km in LYN Ford Focus forum.

Whether CKD in Malaysia, CKD in Thailand or CBU from Japan is no guarantee of quality especially vibrating, rattling sounds from cabin or squeaks when going over bumps.  It depends on your luck and owners need to have the patience to get SC to solve the problem.
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"Some" does not equate to "most" or "many". If one is talking about jerking at low-speed, then it is true that most owners experienced this. But not transmission overheating or change of clutch pack before 20,000km.

CKD from Thailand although not free from vibration and rattling is generally better in showing less of these annoying issues than CKD from Malaysia.
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Hi there, the eagle eye is auto on or by manual ? When I pull the lever to off. It is kinda off all the light. But I was told that the eagle eye is on whenever u start your car . is there a setting to it ? Anyone can shed some light ? Thanks
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The sound proofing is very bad.. As u drive fast, it is kinda noisy

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The sound proofing is very bad.. As u drive fast, it is kinda noisy
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How fast is fast? If it is tyre noise, maybe noisy tyres? What kind of noise are you talking about. Noise can come from several sources - Engine, Road/Tyres, Wind or sound of traffic outside.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Dec 23 2015, 06:29 PM)
How fast is fast? If it is tyre noise, maybe noisy tyres? What kind of noise are you talking about. Noise can come from several sources - Engine, Road/Tyres, Wind or sound of traffic outside.
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I jus got my car and I notice as I drive on the smooth road, the wind noise is quite high. And when i hit the bumper, the left tyre tends to give a 'klak' noise...
Even my friend noticed that.

Is this normal or my car is probably having some problem?


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So, like, Mazda 3 HS CKD owners. What's your thoughts on your car as I'm looking into buying this or the CX-3.

Pros and cons? Thoughts?
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QUOTE(joshuachanhz @ Feb 10 2016, 11:52 AM)
So, like, Mazda 3 HS CKD owners. What's your thoughts on your car as I'm looking into buying this or the CX-3.

Pros and cons? Thoughts?
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So far so good.. Have you done the test drive to both models ?

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Planning on going for a test drive this weekend.
Just wanted to know your thoughts on CKD built cars (as its Malaysian made lol). Also wanted to see if you guys could enlighten me with the comparisons between the 3 and cx3 (i.e. Speed, performance, interior, etc). biggrin.gif

@kennethdw @ilovemod

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Does anyone know all the original speaker size for 2015 CKD Mazda 3? Anyone have the diagram on how to dissemble all the speakers? I wanna DIY .. Hehe thank you
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QUOTE(kennethdw @ Dec 24 2015, 02:42 AM)
I jus got my car and I notice as I drive on the smooth road, the wind noise is quite high. And when i hit the bumper, the left tyre tends to give a 'klak' noise...
Even my friend noticed that.

Is this normal or my car is probably having some problem?
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U dint test drive b4 u buy? But anyway mazda3 for me is quite enough.. performance wise. Nobody buys toyota these days except for its camry hyrid. I knw quite a number waiting for new civic.

Go check wit ur sc for ur noise issue.
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Owned 1 myself, can say everything is at it best among Japan cars, BMW-style interior, sharp exterior, nice torque, skyactiv 2k cc with FC (500km/45 litre RON97), nice after-sales service

Bad side? nosiy road sounds, guess most of you will approve =P, and backseats r sempit

Overall, not bad for a 2k cc car can go 500km for juz 45 litre fuel

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What's the price for 2.0 high spec now?
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124,xxx OTR with insurance. Comes with 3 years / 100,000km warranty AND 3 years/60,000km FREE SERVICE (Engine Oil/Parts/Labor/GST inclusive)
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QUOTE(killeragent @ Apr 27 2016, 04:50 PM)
Overall, not bad for a 2k cc car can go 500km for juz 45 litre fuel
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You must be quite hard on the pedal biggrin.gif

I can get 620-650km for the same amount of petrol you put in, and I don't drive slow either (140km/h higher cruising is a daily affair for me).
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Apr 29 2016, 10:44 AM)
You must be quite hard on the pedal  biggrin.gif

I can get 620-650km for the same amount of petrol you put in, and I don't drive slow either (140km/h higher cruising is a daily affair for me).
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True, 9L/100km is very high. I'm getting 6.5L/100km and tekan kaw kaw on highways.

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CKD Mazda 3 GL or HB, I have solution to install and activate OEM cruise control. PM me for details. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Apr 29 2016, 11:23 AM)
True, 9L/100km is very high. I'm getting 6.5L/100km and tekan kaw kaw on highways.
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Apr 29 2016, 10:44 AM)
You must be quite hard on the pedal  biggrin.gif

I can get 620-650km for the same amount of petrol you put in, and I don't drive slow either (140km/h higher cruising is a daily affair for me).
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haha not really always at the end of pedal la, 3-4k rpm only, juz sometimes wan to spirited drive a bit, and indeed, many ppl claims mazda cars with skyactiv tech are better fuel-saver, now the claim is proved~
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I am interested to buy Mazda 3, but really concerned about all the complains on the low arm bush/ suspension noise which a lot owners complained. Many ppl also complained that after replacement, the noise still come back.

Any opinion or thinking on this issue? rclxub.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(olivechong @ May 31 2016, 10:14 AM)
I am interested to buy Mazda 3, but really concerned about all the complains on the low arm bush/ suspension noise which a lot owners complained. Many ppl also complained that after replacement, the noise still come back.

Any opinion or thinking on this issue? rclxub.gif  hmm.gif
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Its just meant that this car so good in other aspects... that they noticed these sounds... because you have nothing else to complaint about... and basically it wont affect your car's performance... its still the top notch zoom zoom with kodo yo~
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QUOTE(olivechong @ May 31 2016, 10:14 AM)
I am interested to buy Mazda 3, but really concerned about all the complains on the low arm bush/ suspension noise which a lot owners complained. Many ppl also complained that after replacement, the noise still come back.

Any opinion or thinking on this issue? rclxub.gif  hmm.gif
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I drive one and i agree it is annoying. But yet, that's the only annoying part of the car. The service centres know this issue and will not refuse to change it for you under warranty. Just the waiting list is a little long. Worse come to worse after few years down the road, can also change to aftermarket version of the lower arm. Maybe that can fully solve the problem.

Go test drive a few cars around the same range before you make your decision.

QUOTE(aaron1717 @ May 31 2016, 11:39 AM)
Its just meant that this car so good in other aspects... that they noticed these sounds... because you have nothing else to complaint about... and basically it wont affect your car's performance... its still the top notch zoom zoom with kodo yo~
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ May 31 2016, 02:35 PM)
I drive one and i agree it is annoying. But yet, that's the only annoying part of the car. The service centres know this issue and will not refuse to change it for you under warranty. Just the waiting list is a little long. Worse come to worse after few years down the road, can also change to aftermarket version of the lower arm. Maybe that can fully solve the problem.

Go test drive a few cars around the same range before you make your decision.
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So in overall, what rating would you give to M3 out of 10?
Still glad that you bought M3?
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QUOTE(olivechong @ May 31 2016, 03:29 PM)
So in overall, what rating would you give to M3 out of 10?
Still glad that you bought M3?
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At least an 8, if the soundproofing abit better, i might give it a 9.

When I was looking for a car, i was eagerly waiting for the new Civic, new elantra and also the Subaru Levorg (also silently hoping for the new 408). But all till now not launch, so i go for Mazda3 lor...as i know it has the most advanced powertrain among the same class of cars rclxms.gif

My first choice would still be the Levorg as it is a unique smaller sized wagon which my wife also likes rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ May 31 2016, 04:33 PM)
At least an 8, if the soundproofing abit better, i might give it a 9.

When I was looking for a car, i was eagerly waiting for the new Civic, new elantra and also the Subaru Levorg (also silently hoping for the new 408). But all till now not launch, so i go for Mazda3 lor...as i know it has the most advanced powertrain among the same class of cars  rclxms.gif

My first choice would still be the Levorg as it is a unique smaller sized wagon which my wife also likes  rclxms.gif
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I personally prefer M3, but is also doing some research on the new civic also.
And i'm not in a rush to buy a car now, so got plenty of time to do research before deciding.

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QUOTE(olivechong @ May 31 2016, 05:00 PM)
I personally prefer M3, but is also doing some research on the new civic also.
And i'm not in a rush to buy a car now, so got plenty of time to do research before deciding.
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I don't think there is any owners that is not happy with m3, just don't expect it to perform like a GTR or drive on dirt road like really car

No matter what car you get, discover what its good and bad, then work around the limitation, you will appreciate it more
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 31 2016, 05:47 PM)
I don't think there is any owners that is not happy with m3, just don't expect it to perform like a GTR or drive on dirt road like really car

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QUOTE(olivechong @ May 31 2016, 05:57 PM)
Not really sure after seeing all those complains on Mazda Malaysia Facebook…
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well....my car dont have this issue so i cant comment on how annoying it feels, but i see a lot members in mazda 3 club also enjoying and loving their rides despite having problem with the suspension sound

one thing that i'm glad is that there doesn't seems to be much complains about engine and transmission

one more thing to take note of is that some of the car's battery tend to failed prematurely, there will be a warning message show on the screen saying battery problem, but can take back to service center to change a new battery

the i-stop features also quite annoying, there is no permanent solution to turn it off, it will turn on itself the next time you start the car and it doesn't save much fuel without the i-eloop system

better than those complains on VW page la
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QUOTE(olivechong @ May 31 2016, 05:57 PM)
Not really sure after seeing all those complains on Mazda Malaysia Facebook…
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to be honest.... do you rather see your car only has this suspension sound issue but comes with decent spec, best NA engine among C-segment and no issues on the performance whatsoever... or you would prefer a milo tin altis, noob spec, godlike pricing, and cut corner on safety features.... go see their altis forum... you will see how frustrating the owners are.... but of course... now you have new civic to compare with... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Those rattling sounds and the so call nyek nyek sounds, is that the problem of CKD??
CBU unit have this kind of problem?
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jun 1 2016, 09:39 AM)
to be honest.... do you rather see your car only has this suspension sound issue but comes with decent spec, best NA engine among C-segment and no issues on the performance whatsoever... or you would prefer a milo tin altis, noob spec, godlike pricing, and cut corner on safety features.... go see their altis forum... you will see how frustrating the owners are.... but of course... now you have new civic to compare with...  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Haha, I never considered about Altis actually~
If wanna pay 130k+ rather go to civic 2016 premium spec.
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Those rattling sounds and the so call nyek nyek sounds, is that the problem of CKD??
CBU unit have this kind of problem?
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Cbu and CKD both got~
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 1 2016, 09:49 AM)
Cbu and CKD both got~
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jun 1 2016, 09:56 AM)
So sad to hear that...i was going to aim for it... cry.gif
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I'm still planning to go for M3 despite all these, you can refer to earlier posts in this topic or refer to:
LYN Mazda 3 Club V8

M3 owners give really positive comments on the car even with common knocking sound problem.
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 1 2016, 11:24 AM)
I'm still planning to go for M3 despite all these, you can refer to earlier posts in this topic or refer to:
LYN Mazda 3 Club V8

M3 owners give really positive comments on the car even with common knocking sound problem.
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how about the new civic? would you consider... if the specs not much difference from m3 but pricing definitely higher than even a full spec m3... hahaha
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how about the new civic? would you consider... if the specs not much difference from m3 but pricing definitely higher than even a full spec m3... hahaha
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I did consider and read a lot comparisons from overseas for Civic VS M3.
But i've always like M3 since the day it launched in Malaysia, Civic design is also pretty nice actually.
But i heard the waiting list is already more than 3 months, and it havent even officially launched yet.

From overseas review, they say civic is more like an all-rounder car, while M3 is more like a driver car, with better handling but smaller leg room and boot space. But i'm looking for a car to be mostly driven alone, maybe sometimes with my boyfriend, so i think leg room doesnt really bother me. If talk about boot space, M3 backseats are foldable, but i heard civic ones arent. So if you take into account on the foldable back seats, actually M3 should be able to fit in more large items.

And Civic's new features do sound very cool, with walk-away auto lock, remote engine start, smart monitoring system (still not sure what it is). But remote engine start sounds not so practical for me, a bit like for show purposes. I think it's only good when you park under hot sun, and u have time to walk near it, start the engine remotely and wait for the aircond to go cool; or in the morning u warm up your car before driving it?

Walk-away auto lock seems M3 HS got that setting in MZD? But M3 has a lot other safety features, like Smart City Braking system, Adaptive front lighting, blind spot monitoring, lane departure warning, high beam control, etc. And with 3 years free maintenance.

Anyway just my thinking.
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 1 2016, 11:49 AM)
I did consider and read a lot comparisons from overseas for Civic VS M3.
But i've always like M3 since the day it launched in Malaysia, Civic design is also pretty nice actually.
But i heard the waiting list is already more than 3 months, and it havent even officially launched yet.

From overseas review, they say civic is more like an all-rounder car, while M3 is more like a driver car, with better handling but smaller leg room and boot space. But i'm looking for a car to be mostly driven alone, maybe sometimes with my boyfriend, so i think leg room doesnt really bother me. If talk about boot space, M3 backseats are foldable, but i heard civic ones arent. So if you take into account on the foldable back seats, actually M3 should be able to fit in more large items.

And Civic's new features do sound very cool, with walk-away auto lock, remote engine start, smart monitoring system (still not sure what it is). But remote engine start sounds not so practical for me, a bit like for show purposes. I think it's only good when you park under hot sun, and u have time to walk near it, start the engine remotely and wait for the aircond to go cool; or in the morning u warm up your car before driving it?

Walk-away auto lock seems M3 HS got that setting in MZD? But M3 has a lot other safety features, like Smart City Braking system, Adaptive front lighting, blind spot monitoring, lane departure warning, high beam control, etc. And with 3 years free maintenance.

Anyway just my thinking.
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Thank you for pointing out between these two.
I came from driving a Proton Saga BLM, now wish to jump to M3.
I think those nyek nyek is not that loud kot if compare to my current car. because my current car ady full of nyek nyek, and i used to it already... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 1 2016, 11:49 AM)
I did consider and read a lot comparisons from overseas for Civic VS M3.
But i've always like M3 since the day it launched in Malaysia, Civic design is also pretty nice actually.
But i heard the waiting list is already more than 3 months, and it havent even officially launched yet.

From overseas review, they say civic is more like an all-rounder car, while M3 is more like a driver car, with better handling but smaller leg room and boot space. But i'm looking for a car to be mostly driven alone, maybe sometimes with my boyfriend, so i think leg room doesnt really bother me. If talk about boot space, M3 backseats are foldable, but i heard civic ones arent. So if you take into account on the foldable back seats, actually M3 should be able to fit in more large items.

And Civic's new features do sound very cool, with walk-away auto lock, remote engine start, smart monitoring system (still not sure what it is). But remote engine start sounds not so practical for me, a bit like for show purposes. I think it's only good when you park under hot sun, and u have time to walk near it, start the engine remotely and wait for the aircond to go cool; or in the morning u warm up your car before driving it?

Walk-away auto lock seems M3 HS got that setting in MZD? But M3 has a lot other safety features, like Smart City Braking system, Adaptive front lighting, blind spot monitoring, lane departure warning, high beam control, etc. And with 3 years free maintenance.

Anyway just my thinking.
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thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif haha... i think m3 will be best selling than civic... if only asian mentality not in place... space is a concern.... either way.... the m3 still look very sporty even until now... the civic is futuristic but not really nice from my view... hahahah
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jun 1 2016, 12:01 PM)
thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif haha... i think m3 will be best selling than civic... if only asian mentality not in place... space is a concern.... either way.... the m3 still look very sporty even until now... the civic is futuristic but not really nice from my view... hahahah
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Civic LED headlights look really cool actually, but overall design i still prefer M3. While M3 have lower price and more practical features (to me, might not applicable to everyone la). But Honda of coz better RV than Mazda.

Mazda's drawback so far from what i read is just NVH and knocking sounds.
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 1 2016, 11:49 AM)
I did consider and read a lot comparisons from overseas for Civic VS M3.
But i've always like M3 since the day it launched in Malaysia, Civic design is also pretty nice actually.
But i heard the waiting list is already more than 3 months, and it havent even officially launched yet.

From overseas review, they say civic is more like an all-rounder car, while M3 is more like a driver car, with better handling but smaller leg room and boot space. But i'm looking for a car to be mostly driven alone, maybe sometimes with my boyfriend, so i think leg room doesnt really bother me. If talk about boot space, M3 backseats are foldable, but i heard civic ones arent. So if you take into account on the foldable back seats, actually M3 should be able to fit in more large items.

And Civic's new features do sound very cool, with walk-away auto lock, remote engine start, smart monitoring system (still not sure what it is). But remote engine start sounds not so practical for me, a bit like for show purposes. I think it's only good when you park under hot sun, and u have time to walk near it, start the engine remotely and wait for the aircond to go cool; or in the morning u warm up your car before driving it?

Walk-away auto lock seems M3 HS got that setting in MZD? But M3 has a lot other safety features, like Smart City Braking system, Adaptive front lighting, blind spot monitoring, lane departure warning, high beam control, etc. And with 3 years free maintenance.

Anyway just my thinking.
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if i'm not mistaken the new civic has foldable backseat and ISOFIX too, most new car has it

m3 high spec has auto lock, but the base spec one doesn't have it

blind spot monitoring aka rear-view monitoring is damn useful, although it is not so "high tech" like civic lanewatch but it works reliably

lane departure is just for show only, most of the time is annoying if you like to change lane without signal

high beam control only works at very dark road without streetlight, very good if you drive in those hill road like hulu langat and ulu yam

smart city brake wont work when you going faster than 30km/h, there is another better autonomous system call Forward Obstruction Warning for higher speed which is not available in malaysia model

maybe you should go test drive a high spec m3 first then you will know how it feels being in the driver seat
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 1 2016, 01:44 PM)
if i'm not mistaken the new civic has foldable backseat and ISOFIX too, most new car has it

m3 high spec has auto lock, but the base spec one doesn't have it

blind spot monitoring aka rear-view monitoring is damn useful, although it is not so "high tech" like civic lanewatch but it works reliably

lane departure is just for show only, most of the time is annoying if you like to change lane without signal

high beam control only works at very dark road without streetlight, very good if you drive in those hill road like hulu langat and ulu yam

smart city brake wont work when you going faster than 30km/h, there is another better autonomous system call Forward Obstruction Warning for higher speed which is not available in malaysia model

maybe you should go test drive a high spec m3 first then you will know how it feels being in the driver seat
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Den i'm really not sure though, no folding seats is what i read from PaulTan post on May 12, 2016.
PaulTan website Civic 2016

Or maybe Thai spec and Malaysia spec different? They mentioned that:
"There are no folding seats, courtesy of a crossbar at the end of the boot, which is not in the US-spec car."

Haha, ya i should but havent got the time to go test drive yet sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 1 2016, 02:53 PM)
Den i'm really not sure though, no folding seats is what i read from PaulTan post on May 12, 2016.
<a href='http://<link removed>/2016/05/12/driven-2016-honda-civic-1-8-and-1-5-turbo/' target='_blank'>PaulTan website Civic 2016</a>

Or maybe Thai spec and Malaysia spec different? They mentioned that:
"There are no folding seats, courtesy of a crossbar at the end of the boot, which is not in the US-spec car."

Haha, ya i should but havent got the time to go test drive yet sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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too bad then, but i think most of the time we dont need to foldable rear seat, but it is a good feature to have though
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too bad then, but i think most of the time we dont need to foldable rear seat, but it is a good feature to have though
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Ya, i also believe most time we dont need, unless we are moving house or going ikea for shopping.

But i think it would sound funny if a C Segment car could not fold their seats.
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/446602/2017-ma...urfaces-online/

A photo claimed to be from a brochure for the facelifted Mazda 3 range was published online overnight...
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/446602/2017-ma...urfaces-online/

A photo claimed to be from a brochure for the facelifted Mazda 3 range was published online overnight...
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that is some minor change.... really wont notice even driven on the road... except the turn signal maybe....
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im not seller...just asking where to get only...
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 1 2016, 03:33 PM)
Ya, i also believe most time we dont need, unless we are moving house or going ikea for shopping.

But i think it would sound funny if a C Segment car could not fold their seats.
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I never use the foldable seat, not even once sweat.gif

Anyway just my 2 cents as a Owner (not Salesman)

The nyek nyek sound, yes is annoying sadly there isnt a fix solution as of now. Been 2 years + since the launch of CBU and this problem still occur. Good thing is, Mazda is doing something i have changed the Lower arm bush twice (once a year, when i send for service) and usually after i changed, its perfectly fine only after a certain period you will notice the same issue again.

Maybe mine is CBU, as i found out from owners, CKD tend to happen less likely after changing their lower arm bush..

Other that this issue, so far i don't encounter any problem with my Mazda 3. Oh beside my Resale Value doh.gif

Anyway, Mazda is really a fun car to drive, if you're emo ranting.gif just volume up and drive around with your favourite song rclxms.gif

After awhile you will feel rclxm9.gif
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If you are from JB, can go Singapore look for JDM Autocare. They also have the bodykit
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Rexxstyling - PJ (0126842212)

If you are from JB, can go Singapore look for JDM Autocare. They also have the bodykit
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But i live in Penang. Any recommended bodykit shop from Penang?
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QUOTE(olivechong @ May 31 2016, 05:57 PM)
Not really sure after seeing all those complains on Mazda Malaysia Facebook…
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M3SA Facebook.

PM the admin.

As an onwer of Mazda3, I don't find the sound is a big issue. Just a let down why the noise is there even though the issue has been identified. Should the production line using the latest part so that new owner no need to get the replacement themselves. And agreed on the NVH is not really on my expectation for a C segment. Eventually, you will get used to it after sometime. laugh.gif

Anyway, the kruk kruk and ngek ngek sound is not always there. It just happen when you go over bump or uneven road surface (knocking noise), and during rainy days or your lower arm bush gotten wet (squeaking noise).

My case, i got my bump stopper replaced, knocking sound is gone. Squeaking noise I don't even bother about that, becoz it only appear when wet + go over bump, the movement of the arm causing that squeaking noise. It is not like making noise all the way you drive, just on some certain scenario only.

So far no dashboard rattling noise is detected, but I have another noise which is tickling "tick tick tick" due to some vibrations on wire sockets. still trying to figure the way to eliminates the noise. Hahaha...

Better still, wait for the Civic X, test drive both, only then make your decision.

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QUOTE(Jim.tan @ Jun 3 2016, 12:09 AM)
I never use the foldable seat, not even once  sweat.gif

Anyway just my 2 cents as a Owner (not Salesman)

The nyek nyek sound, yes is annoying sadly there isnt a fix solution as of now. Been 2 years + since the launch of CBU and this problem still occur. Good thing is, Mazda is doing something i have changed the Lower arm bush twice (once a year, when i send for service) and usually after i changed, its perfectly fine only after a certain period you will notice the same issue again.

Maybe mine is CBU, as i found out from owners, CKD tend to happen less likely after changing their lower arm bush..

Other that this issue, so far i don't encounter any problem with my Mazda 3. Oh beside my Resale Value  doh.gif

Anyway, Mazda is really a fun car to drive, if you're emo ranting.gif just volume up and drive around with your favourite song  rclxms.gif 

After awhile you will feel  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(toonny @ Jun 3 2016, 11:27 AM)
If you are really interested to get M3, try to join this group to ask the owner what's their thought.
M3SA Facebook.

PM the admin.

As an onwer of Mazda3, I don't find the sound is a big issue. Just a let down why the noise is there even though the issue has been identified. Should the production line using the latest part so that new owner no need to get the replacement themselves. And agreed on the NVH is not really on my expectation for a C segment. Eventually, you will get used to it after sometime.  laugh.gif

Anyway, the kruk kruk and ngek ngek sound is not always there. It just happen when you go over bump or uneven road surface (knocking noise), and during rainy days or your lower arm bush gotten wet (squeaking noise).

My case, i got my bump stopper replaced, knocking sound is gone. Squeaking noise I don't even bother about that, becoz it only appear when wet + go over bump, the movement of the arm causing that squeaking noise. It is not like making noise all the way you drive, just on some certain scenario only.

So far no dashboard rattling noise is detected, but I have another noise which is tickling "tick tick tick" due to some vibrations on wire sockets. still trying to figure the way to eliminates the noise. Hahaha...

Better still, wait for the Civic X, test drive both, only then make your decision. 

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Ya, i do see a lot owners say that is not a big issue rolleyes.gif I think probably it doesnt really bother when I really got the chance to hear the sound.

I have been a fan of Mazda3 since the CBU launched, after doing some research and comparison vs the Civic X, i still prefer the design of M3, and i think the features of HS is still more practical and useful to me, comparing to the remote engine start, walk away autolock, electric parking brake, etc from Civic X. I will still go for M3 i think, since the Civic waiting list has gone really long now. Will testdrive the M3 and see how it goes tomorrow.

Bump stopper is part of the lower arm bush?
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QUOTE(olivechong @ Jun 3 2016, 12:40 PM)
Ya, i do see a lot owners say that is not a big issue  rolleyes.gif  I think probably it doesnt really bother when I really got the chance to hear the sound.

I have been a fan of Mazda3 since the CBU launched, after doing some research and comparison vs the Civic X, i still prefer the design of M3, and i think the features of HS is still more practical and useful to me, comparing to the remote engine start, walk away autolock, electric parking brake, etc from Civic X. I will still go for M3 i think, since the Civic waiting list has gone really long now. Will testdrive the M3 and see how it goes tomorrow.

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Nope. They are different parts.

Not everyone encounter with both issues.

Knock (kruk kruk) noise - bump stopper
Squek (ngek ngek) noise - lower arm bush

If you are not in hurry, why not wait for the facelifted M3? It has better center console, arm rest, electronic parking, new front grille, new rims. And most probably no more the same issue as on now (let's pray for that), better noise insulation perhaps?

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Also please be remind the Mazda does not offer good discount like how the other did, 5k, 8k or more than that. Mostly you'll only find 1k - 3k depends your SA, and how far you can nego with your SA.. Freebies also varies from everyone. cool2.gif

Oh ya, when you go test drive, try bring the car go to those housing area which has bump for you to test. Plan your test drive route, be it housing area or highway, test it until the SA bangwall.gif bangwall.gif hahahaha.. Just kidding.

But try to test drive it at every road condition as you can, test the acceleration, the shifter.. Some people just cannot accept the characteristic of Skyactiv engine, linear power delivery. Means, there is no "ohhmm" when you accelerate hard. But when you feel it is fast, perhaps you already pass the speed of 120km/h. That's how i feel during my test drive. whistling.gif



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QUOTE(toonny @ Jun 3 2016, 02:59 PM)
Nope. They are different parts.

Not everyone encounter with both issues.

Knock (kruk kruk) noise - bump stopper
Squek (ngek ngek) noise - lower arm bush

If you are not in hurry, why not wait for the facelifted M3? It has better center console, arm rest, electronic parking, new front grille, new rims. And most probably no more the same issue as on now (let's pray for that), better noise insulation perhaps?

:thumbsup:

Also please be remind the Mazda does not offer good discount like how the other did, 5k, 8k or more than that. Mostly you'll only find 1k - 3k depends your SA, and how far you can nego with your SA.. Freebies also varies from everyone.  cool2.gif

Oh ya, when you go test drive, try bring the car go to those housing area which has bump for you to test. Plan your test drive route, be it housing area or highway, test it until the SA  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  hahahaha.. Just kidding.

But try to test drive it at every road condition as you can, test the acceleration, the shifter.. Some people just cannot accept the characteristic of Skyactiv engine, linear power delivery. Means, there is no "ohhmm" when you accelerate hard. But when you feel it is fast, perhaps you already pass the speed of 120km/h. That's how i feel during my test drive.  whistling.gif
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Haha, I'm driving a 9-year old Myvi now, m3 will confirm better than whatever I have with my Myvi.

Facelifted M3 I heard need to wait till end of next year… that's too long to wait >_< And I think those changes will come with a higher price tag? I've read Paultan news, it seems quite minor changes to me though.
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Have been driving my M3 for 5 month, detected the "nyek nyek" sound once the disappeared after. The only disappointment is CKD version no Soul Red!!

But really enjoy driving this car!!
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QUOTE(toonny @ Jun 3 2016, 02:59 PM)
Nope. They are different parts.

Not everyone encounter with both issues.

Knock (kruk kruk) noise - bump stopper
Squek (ngek ngek) noise - lower arm bush

If you are not in hurry, why not wait for the facelifted M3? It has better center console, arm rest, electronic parking, new front grille, new rims. And most probably no more the same issue as on now (let's pray for that), better noise insulation perhaps?

thumbsup.gif

Also please be remind the Mazda does not offer good discount like how the other did, 5k, 8k or more than that. Mostly you'll only find 1k - 3k depends your SA, and how far you can nego with your SA.. Freebies also varies from everyone.  cool2.gif

Oh ya, when you go test drive, try bring the car go to those housing area which has bump for you to test. Plan your test drive route, be it housing area or highway, test it until the SA  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  hahahaha.. Just kidding.

But try to test drive it at every road condition as you can, test the acceleration, the shifter.. Some people just cannot accept the characteristic of Skyactiv engine, linear power delivery. Means, there is no "ohhmm" when you accelerate hard. But when you feel it is fast, perhaps you already pass the speed of 120km/h. That's how i feel during my test drive.  whistling.gif
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the transmission change its behavior according to the driver, if drive like uncle it will behave like CVT, the driver need to know how to make the car go aggressive since m3 doesn't have sport mode brows.gif
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 9 2016, 02:14 PM)
the transmission change its behavior according to the driver, if drive like uncle it will behave like CVT, the driver need to know how to make the car go aggressive since m3 doesn't have sport mode brows.gif
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Haha.. Agreed on that bro.

If the driver is uncle behave, then it is almost similar to CVT. Smooth gear changing..
If the driver is always in Sports mode bruce.gif then it will response accordingly to your commands! icon_rolleyes.gif

Have you try flooring the pedal to metal? When the "click" is trigger, redlining is just within seconds! flex.gif


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QUOTE(toonny @ Jun 9 2016, 04:53 PM)
Haha.. Agreed on that bro.

If the driver is uncle behave, then it is almost similar to CVT. Smooth gear changing..
If the driver is always in Sports mode  bruce.gif then it will response accordingly to your commands!  icon_rolleyes.gif

Have you try flooring the pedal to metal? When the "click" is trigger, redlining is just within seconds!  flex.gif
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i didnt hear the click sound when i floor it hmm.gif usually i just go manual mode and downshift twice to get the same effect icon_rolleyes.gif
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Just floor the pedal until you feel a "click". there's a switch instantly downshift to match the speed and RPM...
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ya....on 2nd gear to redline takes about 4 seconds...already 100km/h that time laugh.gif
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Mazda reveals new comfort-focused electronic chassis system
The new technology, named 'G-Vectoring Control', will be released this year. It's part of Mazda's new philosophy: 'prioritising long-distance comfort'

by Hilton Holloway
9 June 2016
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Mazda has revealed a new electronic chassis assist system, which puts an emphasis on stability and long-distance comfort rather than on outright handling prowess.

So-called 'G-Vectoring Control' (GVC) will be released later this year, and is part of a much bigger strategy that will be rolled out by Mazda in the coming years. This is dubbed "Jinba Ittai", a Japanese phrase which roughly translates as 'rider and horse as one body'. Mazda will therefore be putting emphasis on greatly reducing driver fatigue and stress.

GVC uses tiny changes in engine torque output, putting extra weight on the contact patch of the front wheels. This allows the driver to steer around corners at a steady speed with a greatly reduced need for multiple steering corrections. The system also helps reduce lateral forces on passengers while driving over the roughest of road surfaces.

Mazda engineers say that the new philosophy will extend to maximising the comfort of the driver and reducing the muscle strain that can result from a poor driving position and unexpected loading on the body when driving on winding roads.



Future Mazda vehicles will not only get the GVC set-up, but also new, generously-proportioned front seats that are designed to more firmly hold the passengers and reduce pressure points on the occupant’s body.

New models will also get driving positions which 'allow for a comfortable range of movement for every joint in the body' and pedal locations which Mazda engineers promise will be 'close to ideal for all sizes of driver'.

Frederick Hartnick, of Mazda’s German Research and Development Centre, said: "It's basic human nature to want to minimise physical effort and maintain balance.

"Humans sense roll and pitch vehicle movement through their eyes and G-forces through the body. The older Mazda seats did not locate the occupant firmly against the bolsters, so the occupant could experience sudden movement before coming into sudden contact with the bolster."

Passengers' bodies counters these small, violent, movements by tensing muscle groups, especially the main muscle in the side of the neck which helps support the head. This leads to stress and driver fatigue.

The overall philosophy of reducing the amount of driver effort at the wheel, properly supporting the driver, improving the driving position and lines of sight out of the car and greatly reducing the amount of unexpected shock loading on the driver’s body will become central to Mazda engineering and design policy.

One Mazda engineer admitted to Autocar that the company was rejecting the notion that improving driving dynamics inevitably meant increasing a car's general agility. "We cannot optimise our vehicles for what is a small customer base [which wants sportier chassis tuning]. A more relaxed driving experience frees the driver’s mind, and will make the drive more fun."

Mazda sources insist that the new philosophy of maximum driver comfort, more effortless progress and greatly reducing fatigue over long journeys is more in tune with shifting global tastes, seen in rapidly expanding trends for 'wellness' therapies and 'human-centred' personal luxury.



GVC - How it works

We experienced the G Vectoring Control on both the current Mazda 3 and Mazda 6 at a test track on the outskirts of Paris. Mazda engineers say the longer-term strategy is to engineer cars which maximise "smooth transitions between the different G-forces generated by braking, turning and accelerating".

Rather than using classic torque vectoring techniques such as braking individual wheels to encourage a car to, for example, turn more briskly into a bend, the Mazda GVC utilises tiny changes in engine torque output to "optimism the vertical loading on the tyre’s contact patch".

Just using information from the steering angle and vehicles speed, the GVC control software can reduce the amount of torque belong delivered to the wheels by the engine.

Even though the reduction is described by Mazda engineers as 'trivial - a maximum reduction of 30Nm', this and the extra loading of just 5kg on each tyre is enough to make the vehicle track much more accurately, mostly thanks to a more efficient use of the tyre’s contact patch.

Mazda says that it is only because the combustion processes in the SkyActive engines as 'so accurate' that these minor torque changes are possible. Experiments with the previous generation of Mazda engines showed such accurate torque variation was impossible.

According to the company, thanks to GVC, 'the vehicle moves more precisely as the driver intends, reducing the need for steering corrections - many of which are performed unconsciously. The driver feels more at one with the vehicle and more confident because the car follows his or her intended line precisely. Cumulative fatigue on long drives is reduced and smooth transitions between the G-forces acting on vehicle occupants reduce torso-sway, improving ride feel and passenger comfort'.



In reality, the effect is so subtle that it was necessary to frequently switch the GVC on and off during the test drive to get any sense of its effectiveness. However, the telematics don’t lie. Like all drivers, we are so used to making multiple steering corrections that we don’t realise how often and how extreme they are.

The comparative traces show that with the GVC activated the number and extent of my steering corrections were greatly reduced even though I was driving in a 'straight line'. Over a two-hour cross-country journey, that would clearly be a huge reduction in the physical and mental effort needed to keep a car running smoothly at a decent pace.

On a long bend, the system also greatly reduces the build up the kind of side forces which pushes passengers to one side of the seat and forces the driver to brace himself against the centre tunnel or steering wheel itself.

Perhaps the only downside for Mazda is that the GVC’s subtly is such that it would take prolonged experience of the a car equipped with the set-up to fully appreciate its worth. Still, Mazda’s new philosophy is highly seductive.



Very interesting...

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Very interesting...
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Great effort and creativity by Mazda to not follow the pack of merely using torque vectoring and active anti roll bars. Also more cost effective as I think this is a software algorithm that takes in engine data and driver steering input. Will be even more interesting if this can be applied with just an ECU software update... rclxm9.gif

Most likely will be seen in the new Mazda6 instead of the upcoming Mazda3 facelift and CX-9. Unless the possibility of just a software update...
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This is from autoexpress :

"Unlike torque vectoring, the GVC system increases grip rather than the amount of wheel rotation - but the key difference is that it can be fitted using only engine software and sensors. That means it can be fitted to any current Mazda without much extra cost – so it’s expected to come as standard on the updated versions of the whole range."

Wow....wonder whether Mazda allow separate top up and software update ad hoc on current skyactiv range of cars... drool.gif

source : http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mazda/95900/n...ive-even-better



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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 9 2016, 11:11 PM)
Very interesting...
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 10 2016, 09:48 AM)
Great effort and creativity by Mazda to not follow the pack of merely using torque vectoring and active anti roll bars. Also more cost effective as I think this is a software algorithm that takes in engine data and driver steering input. Will be even more interesting if this can be applied with just an ECU software update...  rclxm9.gif

Most likely will be seen in the new Mazda6 instead of the upcoming Mazda3 facelift and CX-9. Unless the possibility of just a software update...
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If they really able to do it with just ECU update and this so-called GVC can be activated, it would be great news to every Mazda Skyactiv owner. rclxm9.gif laugh.gif icon_idea.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 10 2016, 09:48 AM)
Great effort and creativity by Mazda to not follow the pack of merely using torque vectoring and active anti roll bars. Also more cost effective as I think this is a software algorithm that takes in engine data and driver steering input. Will be even more interesting if this can be applied with just an ECU software update...  rclxm9.gif

Most likely will be seen in the new Mazda6 instead of the upcoming Mazda3 facelift and CX-9. Unless the possibility of just a software update...
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QUOTE(toonny @ Jun 10 2016, 09:58 AM)
If they really able to do it with just ECU update and this so-called GVC can be activated, it would be great news to every Mazda Skyactiv owner.  rclxm9.gif  laugh.gif  icon_idea.gif  thumbup.gif
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Mazda Thinks It Can Use Torque Vectoring to Improve Driver Comfort
​Tech that was originally designed to help race cars to tear around the track might make your future Mazda easier to drive.


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  BY CHRIS PERKINS
JUN 9, 2016

Torque vectoring, where varying amounts of torque are sent to individual wheels to aid in more nimble cornering, is an increasingly common tech in today's performance cars. The new Acura NSX, Ford Focus RS, and Lexus RC F feature it prominently, and now Mazda will put it in its cars. Except, it's not being used to make a more nimble Miata: Mazda wants to use torque vectoring to make things more comfortable for the driver.

As reported by Autocar, Mazda recently showed off G-Vectoring Control (GVC), which uses slight variations in torque sent to the front wheels to reduce the need for steering corrections and lateral acceleration on the driver. The constantly variable torque applied to the front wheels allows the car to maintain a steady cornering speed, which Mazda says makes things easier on the driver.

Mazda says the maximum reduction of torque possible with this system is only 22 lb-ft, which is subtle enough that the driver wouldn't immediately notice it, but enough to help maximize the efficiencies of the tire. Unlike other torque vectoring systems which use clever differentials (Ford Focus RS) or braking of individual wheels (all modern McLarens), Mazda simply reduces the engine's torque output by recording steering angle and speed.

In a preview drive, Autocar said GVC didn't feel significantly different than a normal steering system, but data recorded during its drive revealed the driver made less steering corrections with the system activated. That subtle reduction in steering effort is thought to reduce driver fatigue both mental and physical on a long drive.

Mazda also says it will install new seats in its cars that will hold the driver in more snugly to reduce the muscle exertion needed to hold oneself in during cornering. Autocar's report doesn't reveal any specifics on the seat, but they sound like the seats in the new Miata, which use a spring-less hammock-like structure to hold drivers in without gripping them too tightly.

GVC sounds like a very interesting repurposing of a go-fast technology for comfort. We just hope Mazda's increased focus on comfort doesn't lead them to stop making cars with superior dynamics to their competitors.



i wonder would it at the same time solve all the Knock (kruk kruk) noise - Squek (ngek ngek) noise ? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 10 2016, 09:55 AM)
This is from autoexpress :

"Unlike torque vectoring, the GVC system increases grip rather than the amount of wheel rotation - but the key difference is that it can be fitted using only engine software and sensors. That means it can be fitted to any current Mazda without much extra cost – so it’s expected to come as standard on the updated versions of the whole range."

Wow....wonder whether Mazda allow separate top up and software update ad hoc on current skyactiv range of cars... drool.gif

source : http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mazda/95900/n...ive-even-better
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let's hope that sc will provide this upgrade for us, but seems like there is still some wiring needed for the on-off button to activate/deactivate the feature

never like those system that utilize brake to aid the car in turning, sure gonna wear the brake pad down faster
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 10 2016, 01:18 PM)
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-t...toring-control/
i wonder would it at the same time solve all the Knock (kruk kruk) noise - Squek (ngek ngek) noise ?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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The road and track website just regurgitate autocar's website content, so nothing much to get from them as they were also not invited to test on actual car.

GVC is mainly software related but the "kruk" and "ngek" noise are hardware related, so not really related la sweat.gif

QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 10 2016, 01:26 PM)
let's hope that sc will provide this upgrade for us, but seems like there is still some wiring needed for the on-off button to activate/deactivate the feature

never like those system that utilize brake to aid the car in turning, sure gonna wear the brake pad down faster
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We can hope but most likely only upcoming facelift or new models will have it. Even the new CX-9 may not have it as it is already in production before this news was out. But if really can apply with just a software update and Mazda is willing to do it as general goodwill for older skyactiv related models (even with additional cost option), that's already REALLY NICE whistling.gif

The on/off button stated in the article was for the Mazda's engineering/test car, definitely won't appear in the actual car for consumers. May not even be available to switch on/off in the MZD system even if applied.

Those torque vectoring with brake system apply very light touch on the brake only, the additional wear will be insignificant. And besides, how many of us also drive to the limit till need the system apply torque vectoring. I drive the Mazda3 till now also never to the point tyre squek laugh.gif

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A nice video demonstrating the real effects of this technology.

Although purists might complain the "loss of directness" in steering control hmm.gif



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A nice video demonstrating the real effects of this technology.

Although purists might complain the "loss of directness" in steering control  hmm.gif


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correct video embed for you

well....i guess this system is still in its optimization stage?

if too much driver assist in a car it will make the driving experience feel fake because part of your control is being overwrite by the computer at some point but it definitely gonna be a safer car with these technologies

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correct video embed for you

well....i guess this system is still in its optimization stage?

if too much driver assist in a car it will make the driving experience feel fake because part of your control is being overwrite by the computer at some point but it definitely gonna be a safer car with these technologies
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Thanks for the help on the video.

Judging by the video, i consider it quite ok la as you can see that the steering twitching is reduced but overall steering still ok. Another thing to note that this video is based on a snow drive, so the initial part of the video with quick lane change is a good example of the safety it can provide.

Can consider it as a more subtle version compared to the regular ESP (which can be quite harsh when it steps in). Another way to look at it is an electronic version of dialing in understeer. Cars with very low understeer properties are really twitchy and very tired to just hold the driving line.

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A nice video demonstrating the real effects of this technology.

Although purists might complain the "loss of directness" in steering control  hmm.gif


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correct video embed for you

well....i guess this system is still in its optimization stage?

if too much driver assist in a car it will make the driving experience feel fake because part of your control is being overwrite by the computer at some point but it definitely gonna be a safer car with these technologies
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 11 2016, 06:52 PM)
Thanks for the help on the video.

Judging by the video, i consider it quite ok la as you can see that the steering twitching is reduced but overall steering still ok. Another thing to note that this video is based on a snow drive, so the initial part of the video with quick lane change is a good example of the safety it can provide.

Can consider it as a more subtle version compared to the regular ESP (which can be quite harsh when it steps in). Another way to look at it is an electronic version of dialing in understeer. Cars with very low understeer properties are really twitchy and very tired to just hold the driving line.
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Yet another link on the subject

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/63607/maz...ssis-technology


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Mazda Reveals Smooth-Driving G-Vectoring Control Chassis Technology

Kez Casey | Jun 14, 2016
Mazda has unveiled a new chassis control system, dubbed G-Vectoring Control, aimed at making driving smoother and more comfortable.

Unlike regular torque vectoring differentials, which are marketed as performance-enchancing systems, Mazda's new technology is designed to create a more natural (and less tiring) steering feel.


Applied to Mazda's front-wheel-drive range, the system works by monitoring steering wheel inputs 200 times per second, and accordingly reduces torque output to the wheels by as much as 30Nm to allow for more accurate turn-in.

The system itself doesn’t require any hardware changes to the differential or drivetrain of Mazda’s vehicles, allowing it to be rolled out as a relatively simple upgrade across the range.

While timing is yet to be revealed, new models and updates are likely to receive the new technology, with the Mazda3 likely to be first in line with its facelift due later this year.

Despite the potential performance applications, the G-Vectoring system is comfort-biased, designed to reduce the load on occupants, making driving more relaxing and ultimately less tiring.


To accompany the new system, Mazda has even gone so far as to redesign its seats, with design changes made to help reduce load and strain on occupants, therefore reducing fatigue.

G-Vectoring Control isn’t just applied during cornering either, its benefits extend to straight-line driving, aiming to reduce the number of small corrections a driver would need to make to keep the car on course.

Its an intriguing technology, and one that Mazda will be demonstrating in California later this month. TMR will be on hand to bring you the full rundown of the new system, as well as our driving impressions.
Really like the way Mazda is compare to its peers, keep on improving, really looking forward to "comfort-er" CVC rendered steering and Seats, good news for older man like myself. thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 14 2016, 03:28 PM)
Yet another link on the subject

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/63607/maz...ssis-technology
Really like the way Mazda is compare to its peers, keep on improving, really looking forward to "comfort-er" CVC rendered steering and Seats, good news for older man like myself.  thumbsup.gif
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would be better if can switch between sport and comfort as i enjoy a sportier driving experience brows.gif

nevertheless, if its something free then i no complain since it doesn't seems like it will take away the driving dynamics
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 14 2016, 03:28 PM)
Yet another link on the subject

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/63607/maz...ssis-technology
Really like the way Mazda is compare to its peers, keep on improving, really looking forward to "comfort-er" CVC rendered steering and Seats, good news for older man like myself.  thumbsup.gif
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Wish to change to their new seat, sometime drive until a bit back pain. But I sit quite upright though sweat.gif

Fingers crossed, really hope they can roll out to all existing skyactiv models with a software update instead of just focusing on the newer models, since they say it's a relatively simple process rclxms.gif
QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 14 2016, 03:50 PM)
would be better if can switch between sport and comfort as i enjoy a sportier driving experience brows.gif

nevertheless, if its something free then i no complain since it doesn't seems like it will take away the driving dynamics
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This GVC is not suspension settings la....

If want to go all out crazy, just disable ESC, not sure whether got this option or not though...
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Depends on sc done is good and some is bad, if go to sc they didn't have a lot of people usually will get your car service within an hour for minor servicing

If you go for sc with good reputation then you should be safe
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Depends on sc done is good and some is bad, if go to sc they didn't have a lot of people usually will get your car service within an hour for minor servicing

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Safe? hmm.gif

Is the SC on Federal Highway ok? The one situated near Avon and Mercedes building?
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QUOTE(trade818 @ Jun 14 2016, 05:31 PM)
Safe?  hmm.gif

Is the SC on Federal Highway ok?  The one situated near Avon and Mercedes building?
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safe as in good or bad service

i never went to that SC near federal highway, some quite some m3 member went there the service should be okay, i only went to sg. besi branch before
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post Jun 16 2016, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Jim.tan @ Jun 3 2016, 12:09 AM)
I never use the foldable seat, not even once  sweat.gif

Anyway just my 2 cents as a Owner (not Salesman)

The nyek nyek sound, yes is annoying sadly there isnt a fix solution as of now. Been 2 years + since the launch of CBU and this problem still occur. Good thing is, Mazda is doing something i have changed the Lower arm bush twice (once a year, when i send for service) and usually after i changed, its perfectly fine only after a certain period you will notice the same issue again.

Maybe mine is CBU, as i found out from owners, CKD tend to happen less likely after changing their lower arm bush..

Other that this issue, so far i don't encounter any problem with my Mazda 3. Oh beside my Resale Value  doh.gif

Anyway, Mazda is really a fun car to drive, if you're emo ranting.gif just volume up and drive around with your favourite song  rclxms.gif 

After awhile you will feel  rclxm9.gif
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How's the RV for Mazda in generally? I know it's not T and H kind of RV. But is it as bad as say Kimchi or Proton? lol
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post Jun 17 2016, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(CsGo @ Jun 17 2016, 11:11 AM)
Hey guys, can share about pros and cons of mazda3? Any discount for now?
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3868154

i think someone mentioned about the pro and con along this thread as well... since its owners forum....
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post Jun 30 2016, 06:10 AM

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Guys. It seemed GVC cannot be retrofit to current Mazda

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/230819-...a-better-driver


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When can you buy GVC?
Mazda says G-Vectoring Control will first be available on the 2017 midsize Mazda 6 sedan and the compact Mazda 3. Mazda will outfit the entire line within “a couple years.” It’s not possible to retrofit current Mazdas. While it’s a software enhancement to the Mazda SkyActiv engine control module, there are also subtle tweaks to the suspension and steering. GVC will eventually be on all Mazdas, standard, and unlike the test cars, they’ll be always on (no off button).

An interesting possibility is what happens if other automakers want GVC to use on their cars. So far, Mazda hasn’t said if it would license GVC or a variant. There have been times in the past when one company had a technology everyone else wanted, such as Mitsubishi’s counter-rotating balancer shafts that reduced the vibration inherent in four-cylinder engines.


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post Jun 30 2016, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jun 16 2016, 11:23 AM)
How's the RV for Mazda in generally? I know it's not T and H kind of RV. But is it as bad as say Kimchi or Proton? lol
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RV very very bad. Used car categories it as Volkswagen and Kia range mad.gif
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 30 2016, 06:10 AM)
Why why why bye.gif bye.gif bye.gif
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post Jun 30 2016, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(toonny @ Jun 30 2016, 08:41 AM)
Why why why  bye.gif  bye.gif  bye.gif
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Because they want you to buy the facelift or new model.

Retrofitting also have increased risk of warranty issue.

But i also share your disappointment... sad.gif
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post Jun 30 2016, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(kyoshooo @ Jun 30 2016, 08:34 AM)
RV very very bad. Used car categories it as Volkswagen and Kia range mad.gif
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Really that bad?! sweat.gif cry.gif
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post Jun 30 2016, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jun 30 2016, 10:31 AM)
Really that bad?!  sweat.gif  cry.gif
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If want RV, just buy Myvi or vios...no need to think so hard...
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 30 2016, 01:31 PM)
If want RV, just buy Myvi or vios...no need to think so hard...
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Not that I want great RV like Vios or Myvi...but just don't want bad RV as worse as Kimchi lol. Didn't know Mazda is that bad. Hmmmm....
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:28 PM

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m3 when facelift? or new model?
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jun 30 2016, 02:06 PM)
Not that I want great RV like Vios or Myvi...but just don't want bad RV as worse as Kimchi lol. Didn't know Mazda is that bad. Hmmmm....
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Previously, yes.
Now? Uncertain about the RV of Skyactiv.
You might need to do more research and comparison before you find your ans.

Malaysian mindset, typical only H and T is the best. No one appreciate the safety equipment, the features provided by Mazda.

So, if anything with RV, dont bother about other brand, expect H, T and Perodua.
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post Nov 1 2017, 07:00 PM

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Finally I’ve read all of u discussion from 2015 until the last post 2016 talk about the arc for Mazda Vehicle, so I just wanna know until today who already owned the old Ckd M3 and the latest facelift M3? Did the new facelift still come with the noisy sounds?
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QUOTE(deathdeal @ Nov 1 2017, 07:00 PM)
Finally I’ve read all of u discussion from 2015 until the last post  2016 talk about the arc for Mazda Vehicle, so I just wanna know until today who already owned the old Ckd M3 and the latest facelift M3? Did the new facelift still come with the noisy sounds?
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You should refer to this thread too, currently 122pages biggrin.gif Happy reading.

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QUOTE(kungbogai @ Nov 1 2017, 11:52 PM)
You should refer to this thread too, currently 122pages biggrin.gif Happy reading.

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Ohh I see thx bro

 

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