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post Oct 13 2006, 02:49 AM

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even if the tygon does not take any affection from the alcohol, how bout the rubbers in the pump? Mr. Sniper, pls keep updating us with your observation. notworthy.gif
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post Oct 14 2006, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Oct 13 2006, 10:11 PM)
Dude.. if you ain't gonna drink the vodka with the tube submerged in it I'll gladly take it. biggrin.gif

By the way, if the tubings really don't go too bad wanna try adding some into your WC coolant? laugh.gif Now that's gonna waste some vodka...
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haha... if add in a ratio 1:10 hmmm lets see...
assume the whole loop take up 1lit++ of water.
100ml of vodca shall be added.
1lit of vodca = RM75
100ml = Rm7.5

not so exp also tongue.gif ... how if i wan the liquid to be blue color? does adding golden bleu giving same effect as vodca? rclxms.gif
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post Oct 17 2006, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(wjie20 @ Oct 16 2006, 06:54 PM)
I din know Vodka is that expensive....btw...if the vodka does not do any harm to the pump and other components for WC system...who will start using this alcahol for cooling...btw i think we can use other alcaholic liquid instead of vodka?
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u try lor... update us the outcomes tongue.gif

QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 17 2006, 05:10 PM)
Yup..still in vodka... in a airtight glass jar. There it shall remain until it corrodes or a ecosystem of drunk microscopic creatures evolves from it or this thread dissappears.
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post Oct 24 2006, 02:54 PM

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i think tygon would survive from the alcohol since most of the laboratories use them because of their chemical resistive (not all unfortunately). yea, dump in some plastic or rubber made stuff, such as o ring would be good for experimenting.

Edit : Oh crap, guys, there is no point for us to continue this test anymore. the ingredients for vodka consists of various types of flavorings, water and alcohol. and i just found out that the alcohol used by vodka is ethanol based. ethanol has a viscosity of 10.7 × 10-4 while water has got a viscosity of 8.90 × 10-4 (both in the unit of Pascal second and both in the temp of 25 degree celcius). so there is no way for vodka's viscosity to be lower then water somemore there are so many types of flavoring added to the vodka wic would greatly decrease the viscosity of it. sweat.gif and also the evaporates theory doesn't make any sense in this case because its in a closed loop, and liquid shall not be able to evaporate. maybe i'm wrong, so do correct me.

note : the smaller viscosity it has, the faster the liquid flow.

This post has been edited by ddww: Oct 24 2006, 03:05 PM
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post Oct 24 2006, 04:02 PM

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with these, i raised a few question,
1 - Ethanol greater than 50% is easily flameable. This property is where plastics/rubber are prone to disolve. With this, does it ever means that 25% of alcohol will do any harm to the plastic or rubber?

2 - Absolute ethanol boiling point is 78.4 °C. Ethanol has a heat capacity of 2.4 J/g K, while water has a capacity of 4.2 J/g K. Therefore water has a higher capacity to store heat energy, while alcohol has a higer ability to disipate heat.
The heat capacity and boiling point does not simply determine the heat transfer capability of a liquid does it?

3 - just to confirm, alcohol does not corrode copper and brass does it?
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post Oct 25 2006, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Oct 24 2006, 10:09 PM)
hahaha~~ well...does alcohol have certain chemical reactions when reaches boiling point? like ethanol at 78.4'c? I mean~ for Intel chips..they can easily reach 60'c to 65'c with ease especially for a prescott...

So, here are a few things we already know: -

1) The Vodka doesnt hv any effect on the Tygon tubing yet
2) Alcohol has lesser corrosive feature than water on metal / copper

Sounds good~ now..on to a live test!? =)
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erm... ok, like this, wat happen to water at its boiling point? CPU reaches 70C does not mean tat the liquid in it would also be heated up to tat temp. there would always been heat losses during the heat transfer. copper does not fully transfer the heat generates by the CPU. aiks... i make this so complicated. not good in explaining. (so just for u to understand, CPU temp is always 8~20 degree higher than liquid used to cool it.) sweat.gif

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post Oct 26 2006, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Oct 25 2006, 05:48 PM)
SPM science, and a more complete/detailed formulas the (rare) STPM or A-levels. First/2nd year university.

Temperature of the liquid used depends on the propertiies of the liquid, flow rate of the pump, amount of liquid reservoir and efficiency of the radiator. The temperature of the liquid varies through the system. Given time (..stagnant liquid..) the temperature of the liquid will be the same as the copper heat exchanger.
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yupe, it indeed depends on the liquid used. however, liquid used in our daily WCS is quite limited. does not really agree upon the bold part above. tat condition does not apply for life water.
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post Oct 26 2006, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(kcnyc @ Oct 26 2006, 09:23 AM)
I think Tygon will not deteriorate, O rings I dunno.  smile.gif

But still why would you want to put alcohol in the loop?  Won't make a difference one.  smile.gif
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who knows. tongue.gif but i really really think that the best improvement (if got) would not be more than 2degree C.
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post Nov 1 2006, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 1 2006, 11:07 AM)
Sien di lar...nothings happening to the o-ring or the tygon.

Let's call this myth... Busted.
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so drank the vodka? tongue.gif

 

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