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post Mar 29 2017, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Mar 29 2017, 03:39 PM)
Not promoting the seller (you can try finding the same model outside) but if you dont wanna think too much about this cable, PD things, this cable over here ought to do it all.

Pros:
+ Benson-approved
+ USB-IF certified
+ Capable of USB PD charging
+ USB 3.1 speed (Apple C-C is good as a charging cable however transfer speed is limited to USB 2.0 spec which is slow considering its price; not good for transferring stuff)

Cons
- Short @ 1M length
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Yup this works as well. Used widely for USB PD investigation. The deep dive I posted with regards to the Xiaomi QB820 powerbank, the tester also use this particular cable.

I only need to charge, I don't need to transfer anything, nor do I have any USB-C device that requires transfer of large file sizes. That short cable length however, will work nicely with the portable outdoor setup I'm using right now. Matches the all black setup too. Good find.

The Apple cable I'm using is RM89. Cheaper and is 2M length.

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post Mar 29 2017, 04:13 PM

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Just completed the return of that Tronsmart charger back to Lazada, while on the way to watch a movie at Pavilion. Quick and painless.

Also purchased that Belkin cable on Superbuy via Maybank Treatpoints. God knows how I neglected spending these points. tongue.gif

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post Mar 29 2017, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Upsilon @ Mar 29 2017, 04:40 PM)
1M is actually the correct length according to the spec
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3...es_with_benson/
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The length he mentioned was in comparison to the Apple 2M USB-C cable.
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post Mar 29 2017, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(ahhann @ Mar 29 2017, 10:38 PM)
Hi boss,
i using the same Apple 2M USB - C to USB - C cable pair with Xiao Mi Power Bank 2 Pro 10000.
The problem is, my Switch keep charging the power bank, instead of the power bank charge the Switch.

Why ah?
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Does that Xiaomi model support USB-PD charging? If it isnt, then it can "see-saw" charging between your Switch and your powerbank, unless there's a charge mode that your powerbank can do to initiate the charge to the Switch, not the other way round. With USB-C, any devices that sports that port can charge each other, unless one device declares itself as master, and the other a slave. Check your powerbank user manual.

If it doesn't work, try this: Turn your Switch completely off. Not standby, not sleep mode, completely off. While leaving the Switch off, plug your USB-C cable from the powerbank to the Switch and observe if the charging notification comes on the top left (top left when the Switch is completely off, top right when the Switch is turned on and/or in sleep mode). IF that doesn't work, tap the power button to put your Switch into sleep mode, and then plug in the powerbank. Otherwise, , you either need to consult the manual for that feature I mentioned earlier (master/slave), or worse come to worse, charge using USB-A-to-USB-C cable at reduced charge rate delivery.

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post Mar 30 2017, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(ahhann @ Mar 29 2017, 10:59 PM)
Tested. Completely off the Switch does see it got Charge at a very high speed. Around 1% one minute.
Also, if i use the Power Bank stock USB-A to USB-C cable, it can charge the Switch while playing Zelda, but the charge rate is much slower when playing Zelda. It's charging with power percentage going up slowly.

Conclusion, i wasted RM79 for the Apple cable .... don't want always power down Switch just for charge.
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That is not the fault of the cable, it is the nature of USB-C PD charging. IF you don't either reboot the Switch or charge it from sleep mode, it'll not recognise the charging device or reverse-charge away from the Switch to the powerbank.
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post Mar 30 2017, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(nill @ Mar 30 2017, 01:03 PM)
stringfellow, can i use the Switch power adapter to charge  Xiaomi QB820?
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Yes, you can. And it'll fast-charge it too. Only thing is, I'm not gonna meddle with plugging and unplugging the Switch charger off the dock, since my dock is already settled in into the entertainment cabinet.

QUOTE(greyshadow @ Mar 30 2017, 02:24 PM)
very soon in near future everyone will be carrying around a mini nuclear reactor laugh.gif
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QUOTE(LEO1989 @ Mar 30 2017, 02:26 PM)
imagine 10 guys carrying a 20000mah into an airplane, then they pass to a single guy.
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People are already doing that NOW with their mobile phones. 300 seats in the plane, 300 mobile phones, tablets, laptops, portable game consoles. Imagine that. rolleyes.gif

And what's worse, those with laptops have lithium ion batteries in the Watthour capacity, NOT milliAmpHour like powerbanks. Why aren't people imagining more horrible things about laptop batteries? Because they're properly manufactured/assembled/quality controlled? Well then, the responsibility also rests on the same consumer who cared so much about laptop batteries to adhere to the same quality standards about their powerbanks too. Mentalities are not gonna change, people who cheap out on powerbanks will be cheaping out on laptops with shoddy batteries too. Which one is scarier, I imagine?

A battery isn't volatile when properly assembled and manufactured. Someone carrying a single stick of match into the plane is more dangerous than 300 properly assembled and manufactured powerbanks. OR a poorly manufactured USB cable that overheats plugged into the USB ports on the airplane seat. OR a cheap China-branded knockoff wireless headphones with batteries that blows up in the cabin. Google them up, these are not "what if" scenarios, it has happened before.

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post Mar 30 2017, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(nill @ Mar 30 2017, 02:30 PM)
cannot do anything because battery tech didn't improve. If New Switch comes out at 2020, probably will have zero improvement in battery life.
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Battery tech has improved, just that people aren't willing to spend on them. Hydrogen fuel cell, for example. It's been possible since 2015.. But of course, since there's more ignorant people doing all the checking at airports (TSA agents and airport staff) in fear of the unknown like these hydrogen fuel cell, they're more likely to ban them from being brought on board (in their minds, and the minds of ignorant passengers, "hydrogen fuel cell" sounds too much like hydrogen bombs and fuel for terrorist, than a simple power source).

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post Mar 30 2017, 03:27 PM

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Like your car. Hence , "fuel cell".

And just like new technology, who's willing to testdrive other than early adopters? EArly adopters who will face the growing pains and difficulty using this. Just like the growing pains of electric car users finding top-up electric stations for their own car "powerbanks".

Point is, people wont get on board until it's widespread. Majority will take the "wait and see" approach, because nobody wants to spend to be an early adopter. If that's the case, they can't complain about "battery tech not improving", the options are there, they're just not willing to spend on it. Myself included. Only that in my case, I'm not willing to spend on it, but I'm aware that there are other options available.
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Mar 30 2017, 03:27 PM)
which reminds me, I was travelling on multiple flights with a mini match box tucked under my frequent travelling bag, forgotten.
Only found out till I clear out my bag for cleaning few weeks ago, I was shocked how the airport security check never found it or stopped me all these while
I can easily light a match on a flight, and cause a cabin fire since there are sooooo many easily flammable objects in a plane as well, especially those ladies with excessive sprays on their hair  devil.gif
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They probably dont care. The danger is NOT while you're carrying it on your person IN the cabin, the danger is you placing it IN your check-in luggage IN the cargo hold. That's why they're not allowing batteries checked-in into your luggage but allowing it in your hand-carried bag into the cabin. You lighting it in the cabin, will have the rest of the 300 passengers fearing for their lives in the cabin wrestling you immobile for endangering their lives. That's the rationale for that allowance.

You light a match in cabin, there's vigilant eyes that'll catch you doing it and smack your head upside down for it. An accidentally light match in the cargo hold, the fire extinguisher squibs can do its job putting out the fire, but it's not like we flood the entire cargo hold with fire extinguisher foam, fire will still be dormant and pose a hazard to the plane.
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QUOTE(nill @ Mar 30 2017, 04:14 PM)
I doubt any manufacturer want to be the first to announce: My phone/tablet/laptop can last for days without charging but now you have to pay $$ to refill the fuel every week. Without our fuel, our phone/tablet/laptop is a piece of brick.

Is fuel cell refills cheap?
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Like all new technology it wont be cheap, that's the nature of emerging technology. Was the iPhone cheap when it arrived during the days of brick phones and clunky PDAs? Eventually, once enough early adopters absorbs the cost and drive up enough interest for them to mass-manufacture, the price goes down. The question here is, which one are you: early-adopter or wait-and-see-er?

I suggest we adjourn away from this discussion, it's already diverting away from the thread topic.

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post Mar 30 2017, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(nill @ Mar 30 2017, 10:40 PM)
Point taken.
Thanks for recommending the powerbank. Just received it today.
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No problems, post your results with it (Switch charging time, recharge time of the powerbank, chargers that works with the powerbank, etc). I do problem-solving like the case of powerbanks here, when stupid companies like Nintendo leave support for other countries hanging, and leave that to the end user to deal on their own. In this case, Nintendo left portable charging and approved cables to the end users on their own, unless you're comfortable rebuying expensive accessories from Nintendo. LOL at Nintendo trying to turn themselves into Apple, they don't have the clout or mindshare enough to be one, and yet they wanna project themselves like one with their ridiculous accessories pricing.

Anybody remember the "Brazil Hack" for the Wii? wink.gif That was 11 years ago, good times.
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post Mar 31 2017, 10:38 AM

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Update 1.1.1 is up for Zelda BOTW on Switch. Anecdotal report says less frame drops, but I'm still getting those in places like Korok Forest.

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Now we can get technical and scientific!!

Just received this USB-C power meter. It looks like the Satechi model, but if you know where to look, you can get it off that expensive prepackaged American branding and go straight to the "source". wink.gif

Currently discharging the Switch battery, look at it go!

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The Switch acting as a battery for the Nexus 6P. Indicated by the current flow arrow. Can be reversed depending on the order the cables are plugged in. Need to discharge the Switch below the 75-80% to get the true USB-PD Fast-charge rate, as the battery of the Switch approaches full, it will cycle demand down to a slower rate.
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post Mar 31 2017, 11:14 AM

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Free DLC teased for Super Bomberman R. Still not gonna get it.

http://nintendoeverything.com/free-dlc-rev...er-bomberman-r/
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post Mar 31 2017, 12:26 PM

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Got the numbers I need to justify why I'm saying that the QB820 is the best option for me, for powering up the Switch on the go.

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The condition:

Zelda BOTW, max brightness, max volume, WiFi on.

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Yup, the justifications were indeed correct. The best combo you can have now for charging at home and on the outdoors are the official Nintendo AC charger, the Anker PowerPort+ 5 and the Xiaomi QB820. Numbers don't lie.

Also from those figures, QuickCharge or any other formats of fast-charging other than USB-PD does not charge the Switch any faster than your standard USB-A charger.

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post Mar 31 2017, 01:41 PM

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Good times keeps on coming. Another Benson-approved USB-C cable has arrived.

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That'll put an end to the "whoa long cable!" snickering I get with the 2M Apple cable.
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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Mar 31 2017, 10:58 PM)
Fantastic review bro.  thumbsup.gif

Wish could get one of those USB-C voltage and amperage meter myself. But your test has saved me some of my molah.  tongue.gif  Anyway I believe the Anker PowerPort+ has the capability to charge the Switch as good as its official charger (judging on how good it performs on charging your QB820), maybe the Switch itself doesn't dare asking for more current out of any 3rd party charger but hopefully that would change over time by means of firmware update etc.

Anyway, some of my friends did ask me why the hassles for all of these kind of setup instead of just buying and using another Nintendo charger?
For me these are the best setup if you have the Switch, other gadgets and/or mobile devices that you usually bring along on the go. All you need actually are the Anker PowerPort+ 5 charging hub (Nathan K approves it as an excellent multi-device charger), the ZMI QB820 (just in case there's no plug nearby) and a good USB-C cable for the Switch. My office has the US-typed socket only hence my decision to go for the Anker since Nintendo's decision in selling the charger based on in which region you are in. I dont like the idea of having to bring 2 Nintendo chargers which are bulky and having their cables undetachable make it even worse; (one UK plug charger, the other for the US, and having to have other chargers for my other devices as well.) These 3 items are a must if you have to travel a lot.
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Go tell them to be the wall-huggers. This kind of species you see a lot at airports hugging walls where the power sockets are LOL!

You already see them in Starbucks, the first thing they do is look around under tables to see if there's power sockets available they can reach with the cable on their laptops and portable devices. This day and age where ultrathin laptops lasts 8-12 hours doing productivity work (you're not gonna render or edit photos in Starbucks with your laptops, please. OR if you're bringing in gaming laptop with intake exhaust fans blowing like a leafblower, you're a wall-hugger and a vacuum cleaner kinda species LOL!), and powerbanks are aplenty, without having to ask Starbucks baristas for extension cable/power strip. It's embarrassing. You wanna be seen as hardworking tapping away at your electronic devices, yet you're hogging spaces and power-outlets like hungry leeches. tongue.gif

Also, if they say "Imma poor guy, my laptop thick and chunky, so need find power outlet". Then I'd say to them, "then you're used to carrying heavy load on your back, what's another powerbank in that heavy bag of yours?: Teeheehee!

More often than not, it's because your friends are lazy. They're lazy to look for options, and pass on the burden of their laziness towards the place they're visiting. Often times I see some of these wall-huggers being visibly upset that they can get a spot to charge their devices because someone else is using the power outlet, and it's almost like bloody Amazing Race to see them twitch when seeing the person(s) currently using the power outlet even make the slightest hint that they're leaving that spot. Pathetic really. tongue.gif

Or your friends would comment about "who's out and about more than 3 hours anyway"?. Then I'd be answering them back, "why are bringing that Nintendo AC charger with you, bruh?" tongue.gif Checkmate.

However, this sentiment only applies when you're long-playing a stretch of games of open-world nature like Zelda and the likes. Games you can play in spurts like those Neo-Geos games or Blaster Master, if you're that kind of gamer, you dont even need to think about charging outside, these game aren't gonna dent your battery life. Even "spurty" game like Fast RMX will kill your battery life fast enough that you'll need to consider some sort of battery charging option outdoors.

I carry all my things in this:

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It's 2017, time to ditch that old clunker of a laptop for something with less carbon footprint.

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post Apr 1 2017, 01:52 AM

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Since it's already April, the Monthly Summary is up if you've used the Parental Control app to track your Switch usage. I'm a bad parent to myself apparently. 16 hours play session is not good parenting tongue.gif

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Tapping on the highlighted day in the month brings up this:

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post Apr 1 2017, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE(hafez13 @ Apr 1 2017, 02:44 AM)
Is that the cityslicker bag?
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The Waterfield Muzetto. More than 5 years old and has developed a nice leather patina on it, looks well-worn and well-travelled.
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post Apr 1 2017, 05:52 AM

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If you're really, reaaaallllly desperate to charge your Switch, use your phone. Provided it's USB-C. Reverse-charging the Switch using the Nexus 6P.

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