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post Dec 26 2021, 12:24 PM

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Hi all,

For a tax resident in SG, are we subject to this new tax when we remit money back to Msia banks?

What documentary proof do we have to provide the the banks / LHDN?
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post Dec 26 2021, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Dec 26 2021, 12:52 PM)
If you are paying tax in SG but legally tax resident in Malaysia then I believe the answer is yes, but that any tax paid in SG can be offset against your Malaysian tax.

Happy to be corrected on that.
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Thanks for the prompt reply. What if one is a tax resident in SG and spent less than 183 days in Msia. The individual should not be subjected to this new tax? On remittance of funds from SG to Msia via financial institutions, do we have to show proof the the receiving Msia bank? When would the 3% be imposed?
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post Dec 26 2021, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 26 2021, 12:58 PM)
but what if "If you are paying tax in SG but "NOT" a legally tax resident in Malaysia then what would the answers be?
(example: Malaysian not staying in Malaysia for > 182 days?)
Malaysia
Individual - Residence
Last reviewed - 14 December 2021
The status of individuals as residents or non-residents determines whether or not they can claim personal allowances (generally referred to as 'personal reliefs') and tax rebates, and enjoy the benefit of graduated tax rates.
Resident status is determined by reference to the number of days an individual is present in Malaysia.
Generally, an individual who is in Malaysia for a period or periods amounting to 182 days or more in a calendar year will be regarded as a tax resident.
https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/malaysia/individual/residence
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Ok. This gets slightly more elaborated. So a tax resident in SG will automatically file for personal income tax in SG which the amount would be treated as tax relief by LHDN? Individuals will have to make filings to LHDN as well?

More questions than answers.

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post Dec 27 2021, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 27 2021, 12:30 AM)
Is the answers in the faqs?
Hv you read the link?
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Yes I did. This could be the closest.

ekiranya pendapatan yang diremitkan telah tertakluk kepada cukai di luar negara (cukai asing), adakah layak menuntut potongan kredit cukai?
Ya. Pembayar cukai boleh menuntut kredit cukai dua belah pihak atau sebelah pihak di bawah peruntukan seksyen 132 / seksyen 133 ACP 1967 sekiranya pendapatan yang telah diremitkan ke Malaysia tersebut telah dikenakan cukai asing sama ada dalam bentuk cukai pegangan atau cukai pendapatan.
Pembayar cukai yang menuntut kredit cukai perlu menyimpan bukti cukai asing yang telah dibayar.
Kredit cukai yang dituntut untuk suatu tahun taksiran TIDAK boleh melebihi bahagian cukai Malaysia yang kena dibayar berhubung pendapatan yang diremitkan untuk tahun taksiran berkenaan dan mesti dituntut dalam tempoh dua tahun selepas akhir tahun taksiran 2022 atau 2023.
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post Dec 27 2021, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 27 2021, 12:48 AM)
My guess n thinking only,...
Unless the amount you want to bring back is large n want to purchase high value asset with it.... Then declare it. Else just bring back bit by bit as permitted amount to bring back thru the custom control.... What is the max myr allowed bring back without declaring at custom?
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This is cumbersome. It means all Malaysian who is not a Malaysian tax residents, would need to file 2 tax filings. One with the tax authority where they are a resident and the other with LHDN. The 2nd filing with LHDN has to adjust with the amount of tax paid via tax rebates.

This is quite massive right?
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post Dec 27 2021, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 27 2021, 08:53 AM)
i am more concern of the "massive" on the taxes applied to the amount of money one remit back from CPF savings upon reaching retirement age  moneyflies.gif
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I was referring to massive workload to file the tax papers with LHDN. Would non-Msia tax residents be entitled to any rebates/relief? There are 300 - 500k Malaysians working in SG and I doubt even 50% know what is going on - shudder to think about filing the tax returns with LHDN ...

QUOTE(VCBlogger @ Dec 27 2021, 09:51 AM)
Usually if your an expat you should negotiate your package nett of tax which means all tax for the country ( Australia) is paid by your employer and arranged by your employer.

Companies sometimes dont regard you as an employee but as an external vendor ( e.g. cause you wont enjoy staff benefits like medical, etc) as such what they pay you could be without any tax deducted and they assume you will pay the relevant tax at the country of residence ( which in TS Wife Case Malaysia). So please check with your employer what they pay and did not pay,

Basically they treat you like engaging a foreign vendor and pay you a fixed sum per contract then you settled your tax at LHDN ( Malaysia)

If your working in Singapore ( means you stay in malaysia less than the prescribed period and is in Singapore for the prescribed period ) you will be a tax resident of singapore but not a tax resident of malaysia.
As such your not liable to LHDN. Proof can be via your passport. Transferring CPF money back is not taxable as long you have evidence and proof that its CPF money.
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If the last para is correct, then there is no discussion. Business as usual. This is different from the LHDN link.

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post Dec 27 2021, 04:25 PM

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Getting unnecessarily complicated now. Yet no explicit answer outside of interpretations to a straightforward question. One may need to appoint a tax consultant to file and reconcile amongst the tax jurisdictions, just like the US.

At this rate, probably they should elaborate on the penalties for failing to declare these incomes. High probability to trip there.
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post Dec 27 2021, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Dec 27 2021, 04:29 PM)
default penalty is 45% of additional tax payable

law says both remitted and deemed remitted
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Intention and policy are clearer now. The implementation and operation need to be communicated. Not getting them is frustrating...

The latest announcement from MOF should allay the concerns of non-tax residents.

This post has been edited by keelim: Dec 30 2021, 07:39 PM

 

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