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 Income Tax on Foreign Salary Income?, Work in Home in Malaysia.

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Wedchar2912
post Dec 21 2021, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 21 2021, 05:28 PM)
Unfortunately CPF remitted back to M'sia also kena tax

https://www.sinchew.com.my/20211221/%e5%86%...%b6%e5%b1%80-2/
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This is not a big concern for the time being. When one retired, one technically do not have any income right? Then only remit back your cpf slowly, year on year.
The remitted funds, even if one cannot prove they are capital vs income, is at most going to be taxed at normal income rate. So technically every year, the first 40K rm is basically tax free.

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post Dec 21 2021, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 21 2021, 05:54 PM)
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But yet there are some like me,  came back to work, when at age 50 still working in Msia, can withdraw CPF....
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(hopefully not a side track, as I think this is part of cashflow and risk management for individuals)
If one is still working in Malaysia and generating net positive cashflow after expenses, should just keep the CPF/other monies in SG and let it grow there. As currency hedge/lifestyle hedge or if deployed into investments, as diversification. No point bring it back here and suffer currency risk and political risks.
In fact, just MY and SG alone is not diversified enough, as one big Typhoon would blow everything away.... touch wood...

That's why I don't pay too much attention to this foreign income remit back to Malaysia tax as much of an issue for most of us. As long as don't bring back, no problem.

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post Dec 21 2021, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Dec 21 2021, 07:23 PM)
If a tax file has never been opened on me for genuine reasons (previously not tax resident in Malaysia) but I am now tax resident in Malaysia but do not work and have no passive income at all (live off savings in Malaysia deposit account) then do I now have to open a tax file? Total interest on money on deposit is only RM150 a month.
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If want to do the proper and legal thing, need to ask your local tax officer. They would be able to advise.

I know that if your income is not high enough, they will not bother to ask you to create a tax file. But this was back when taxes were still filed via paper method.

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post Dec 24 2021, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Dec 24 2021, 11:58 AM)
I just heard back from a tax advisor re my personal situation - I am tax resident in Malaysia, have money on deposit in Malaysia to live off for a few years and have a tax free onshore dividend to supplement the savings. Tax advisor stated that I have no need to open a tax file.

I then went back with a follow up question. I have some funds offshore which have not been touched (either income paid in or transfer out) for several years. If I transfer some of these funds to Malaysia after 1/1/22 is the remittance taxable? I am still awaiting an answer on this question.
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Thank you for sharing the info in the first paragraph.

For your follow-up questions. I am pretty sure that if you send back say 20K per year (there should be a limit, but I don't know the exact limit), there is no need to file anything. Rational: fresh grads in malaysia who earns say 2K per month, are frequently told by LDHN officers that they don't have to open a tax file as their income is too low to be taxed.


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post Jun 12 2023, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 12 2023, 05:45 PM)
If I am a Msian working abroad, then all my income, incl dividend income is subjected to the taxation authorities of the foreign govt.. When this foreign income is subjected to 'foreign tax', the LHDN will not tax again when I remit such income back to Malaysia.

I wonder how they will treat this dividend income portion of my total income,...
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The last part I believe many of us are waiting to know the answer.

Rationale is how would LDHN know that when we remit back say 1 million ringgit equivalent, how much of the funds are from income already taxed and how much is from say bank interest/share dividend?


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post Jun 13 2023, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 13 2023, 09:47 PM)
for now... lhdn operates on self-disclosure... you don't tell, they wont know... but they have power to audit and impose harsh penalties... if audited, onus is on you to prove the funds are after-tax both foreign and local...
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So until our LHDN comes out with much better guidelines and our trust in them improves, the best advice to all is to be smart about this and not to be FLASHY.

those with local assets, any reason to remit funds back? hmm.gif
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post Jun 13 2023, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 13 2023, 11:41 PM)
correct advice is... just pay your taxes ppl...

i wanna spend my money... not hide under pillow or offshore account... living in fear of tax man... gg cant take it with you...

reason to remit back... easier for next of kin...
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That maybe the correct advice, but not the best.

even if you paid all accurate taxes, if you are flashy, ldhn still come kacau you.

 

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