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[WTA] Is it cheaper if buy from oversea?, planning to buy amp.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 11 2006, 02:52 PM, updated 20y ago
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As topic, just wonder is it cheaper if we buy our stuff from oversea, i am looking for an amp. if buying from oversea is cheaper than here, then can wait those travel back from study or go for vacation then buy back, where is recommended? hehehe......
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jojo902156
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Oct 11 2006, 02:55 PM
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Some of the reasons : some amps are cheaper than here even after tax. Imatation amps hard to get from US.
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s@ni
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Oct 11 2006, 03:00 PM
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try surf and survey on da net first for price and warranty,then u decide it. its hard to say.coz certain things are cheaper in malaysia.but if u wanna buy anything from france,i can help u.
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jojo902156
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Oct 11 2006, 04:56 PM
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Warranty? Don't think about it, by shipping from US to Malaysia, if by air, it will take 1-2weeks, follow by customs declarations and it will take.... Well, we knows that their effiency is very high, maybe 2 months or 3 months. Mine last time was 3 months. By waiting the amp to reach your hand, it only left 8 months, then minus out another 2-3 months to ship it back to US if got problem, so in actual the warranty is only 5-6 months. Tha's why when buying the amp, try to get the price that atleast 200-300% cheaper, as warranty you can consider don't have.
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DeReturner
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Oct 11 2006, 05:20 PM
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Agree with warranty void. Read carefully on term and condition. I agree that is cheaper if you go on vacation and buy it. As long as you get pass the custom without tax that will be great. And plus have to handle with care, coz if the amp get faulty, I would say sorry. I meet people take back from Aust, amp and woofer of JL audio in super low price by pass custom. He said 1 thing "hand carry like hell~!" But no more warranty. So the risk is there, you decide to take it or not.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 11 2006, 07:42 PM
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wah.... can by pass the custom somemore ah??? can we say this 1 is own use in australia then finish study liao need to take back?
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jojo902156
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Oct 11 2006, 07:46 PM
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Actually what I mean was not warranty void, is because of most of the time wasted on shipping and customs. The chances of getting customs bypassed will be around 50/50 depend on your luck.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 11 2006, 11:16 PM
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but then if only for self using also need to take long time to pass the custom ah... not pay the tax on the spot then can bring in to malaysia liao de ah?
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jojo902156
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Oct 11 2006, 11:34 PM
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If you carry along then it will be fast, but by postage it will take long time.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 12 2006, 07:31 AM
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if i carry along n declare to them i am carry an amp back, will i be tax, and how much will it be?
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jojo902156
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Oct 12 2006, 09:04 AM
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Well, it has a tax table, you can have a check on customs website, but if can try to make the package old and declare as used item, you can get cheaper tax.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 12 2006, 10:54 AM
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ok, thanks.... will take note who is going oversea and ask them to bring it back for me... hahhahaa......
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jojo902156
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Oct 12 2006, 11:48 AM
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If not mistaken, study in US can get tax free, I don't know how true is it. Example, if you buy a Rockford Fosgate original speakers P62S, cheapest in US is USD84.5 and you get tax free for it. By taking currency exchange of rm3.7, you will get rm312.65. Here is selling for >rm1.5k.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 12 2006, 03:24 PM
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wau... so much different, but then if kena tax is how much, take that for example. will it still worth it to take back?
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DeReturner
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Oct 12 2006, 04:43 PM
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Tax is 3+1 if not mistake. Just add on another 40% to your total declaration price. Some item you will find worthy. The person I meet was hand carry with very low tax as used item. He used to study there. Even after convert still found very worth. The price include tax and conversion is like RM4k, the item selling here is RM7k. There's never easy get pass custom.
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jojo902156
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Oct 12 2006, 08:38 PM
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Yarloh, it will be hard, sometimes even if unlucky, you won't get the amp, normallah, they want some coffee money.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 13 2006, 06:38 AM
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i am planning to buy an amp and a better HU, so if can thru this way maybe can get a cheaper quality stuff mah... i got 1 friend frm japan, maybe can ask him to help me, what is worth to buy frm japan huh???
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jojo902156
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Oct 13 2006, 09:04 AM
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Amp should be no problem, but HU might have due to signal, like Japan HU here have to add fm booster then only can use.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 13 2006, 02:53 PM
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do any1 here have experience of buying stuff from oversea?
can you please share your experience, or list down what you buy, how you buy and how much cheaper compare if u buy in malaysia....
thank you.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 13 2006, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(jojo902156 @ Oct 13 2006, 09:04 AM) Amp should be no problem, but HU might have due to signal, like Japan HU here have to add fm booster then only can use. if install another fm booster, will it look complicated and is it expensive for that?
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driftmeister
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Oct 13 2006, 03:28 PM
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others buy stuff from oversea is bcos they cant get it from malaysia
e.g. Brax, McIntosh, Seas etc
it's no cheap i've once bid for a genesis dual mono for 130 pounds but after conversion + shipping + insurance and the time involve decided not to take it
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TSmooscar
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Oct 13 2006, 05:48 PM
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i ask the same question in the other forum, according to 1 of the feedback, he bought a Pioneer DEH-P6850MP ,SGD 280 in singapore, convert back is RM650 only, saw some1 here selling RM9XX ler....
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pisces
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Oct 13 2006, 06:07 PM
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For amps and speakers, it is alright to source from overseas if you know the seller well. But for HUs, I suggest you source them locally although the local price is a little higher. The reason is that HUs, unlike amps and speakers, involves a lot of moving parts and is subject to wear and tear. One good example is the pick-up lens which at best last no more than 5 years. If you bought the HU from overseas and if the lens gone kaput, it will be very difficult to get the local shops to service it for you.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 13 2006, 07:13 PM
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erm... if i am from jb and goin to buy at sg, it will be no problem is it?
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pisces
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Oct 13 2006, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(mooscar @ Oct 13 2006, 07:13 PM) erm... if i am from jb and goin to buy at sg, it will be no problem is it? If you buy from those parallel importers, I don't think they will attend to your problems, esp if it is after 3 years or more. If you buy from installers in Singapore, then perhaps they will arrange the repair for you. Having said that, it is always better to make things clear with them before the purchase.
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jojo902156
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Oct 13 2006, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(mooscar @ Oct 13 2006, 07:13 PM) erm... if i am from jb and goin to buy at sg, it will be no problem is it? Hello, after so many replies only you say you want to buy from SG.. @#$%^, If like this is much more easier, drive your car in, pay the tolls, pay the parking fees(SGD10), then change your HU, speakers, amps over there. Tax free. But only problem is warranty claims problem later.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 13 2006, 10:51 PM
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no.... my plan is not from sg, think sg wont cheap until where de.... but if other place got no hope then sg may become a good choice as i stay near to it. i still will keep survey lor.... hehehe....
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jojo902156
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Oct 13 2006, 11:36 PM
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Like that ah, I think US is not a bad place to look for, can try on amazon or ebay.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 14 2006, 06:43 AM
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ok.... then if i want an amp, which brand is cheap in oversea? anybody got do survey b4???
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jojo902156
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Oct 14 2006, 09:19 AM
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Depend on your taste, I prefer Rockford Fosgate amps, really can see the price gap between here and US.
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loon1031
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Oct 14 2006, 09:46 AM
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In US Rockford Fosgate is a decent brand only... Only in Malaysia, it become highend... Don't know why le..!
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howiechoo
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Oct 14 2006, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Oct 14 2006, 09:46 AM) In US Rockford Fosgate is a decent brand only... Only in Malaysia, it become highend... Don't know why le..! wait till u had tested a real USA selling model..... i think u will regret wat u say....
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TSmooscar
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Oct 14 2006, 04:11 PM
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Rockford Fosgate is more for sq or spl???
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TSmooscar
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Oct 14 2006, 04:50 PM
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bro..... i just found out that 1 of my friend is going to come back from London. any good suggestion i should ask her to help me bring back??? i need an 4 channel amp.
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mattchin
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Oct 14 2006, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Oct 14 2006, 09:46 AM) In US Rockford Fosgate is a decent brand only... Only in Malaysia, it become highend... Don't know why le..! my dad's 1st woofer was a RF and it was purely from the state. the bass were so pleasant till now i also can remember the bass.. that time they were really producing great woofers.. but ever since they started 2 produce in china.. all the standard went down.. going back 2 d yrs of mid and late 90s who ever that wants woofer surely they will recomend RF.. during that time.. it was really high end 1s.. (not many distributors during tat time) i'm not sure wat sort of quality is state havin now.. but normally priority still goes back 2 'em..  i'm not sure about how g00d is the current higher end of RF's woofer in m'sia market but i guess there is still some standard around there..
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pisces
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Oct 14 2006, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(mooscar @ Oct 14 2006, 04:50 PM) bro..... i just found out that 1 of my friend is going to come back from London. any good suggestion i should ask her to help me bring back??? i need an 4 channel amp. In my experience, ICE equipment in UK is quite pricey due to the VAT. I came across an Xtant 4 channel amp in Sim Lim SQ (Edison) selling for S$780 (about RM1,850) which I think is quite a good buy, considering the amp is made in the States.
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loon1031
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Oct 14 2006, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Oct 14 2006, 01:30 PM) wait till u had tested a real USA selling model..... i think u will regret wat u say.... Hehe...because my friend go to US working for few month... He said Rockford Fosgate very cheap in US... His friend there say it become decent brand liao... Don't know it true or not..
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mattchin
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Oct 14 2006, 07:26 PM
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i think ur fren is talking about those low end series..
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TSmooscar
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Oct 14 2006, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(pisces @ Oct 14 2006, 06:01 PM) In my experience, ICE equipment in UK is quite pricey due to the VAT. I came across an Xtant 4 channel amp in Sim Lim SQ (Edison) selling for S$780 (about RM1,850) which I think is quite a good buy, considering the amp is made in the States. Totally agree with you, I found 2 website to compare the model and price between $ and £, wau.... the outcome is amazing..... for example, Alpine PDX-4.150 is stated $539.00 vs £499.95... the numerical is not much different, but the dollar sign is a lot different
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jojo902156
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Oct 14 2006, 08:09 PM
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I don't think UK is a good place for hunting cheap ICE. Anyway still waiting the seller to reply how much is the amp and shipping to here.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 14 2006, 08:16 PM
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jojo, what are you waiting for? RF from US?
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jojo902156
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Oct 15 2006, 12:49 AM
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Soundstream XTA880.2, here got people selling second hand for rm900, but there new one include tax is rm1100 I think.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 15 2006, 06:37 AM
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wau.. then it is a lot diffferent.... may i know where u usualluy lepak at... maybe i can browse those website as well.. mind to share???
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jojo902156
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Oct 15 2006, 11:31 AM
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I always surf on ebay and I have bought once before from a seller there. Amps are really dirt cheap on certain brands, but only waiting time very long.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 15 2006, 09:26 PM
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what is ur result?
i got ask a seller in a forum for quatation, he quote me a JBL GTO75.4 for RM1,400. but then i go to UK website see, it is £94.95 there... think plus tax or whatever also worth it is it? 1 more thing, my friend from UK coming back soon... any1 got suggestion?
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jojo902156
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Oct 15 2006, 10:38 PM
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By taking 1=6.92, if tax is 40% from the price you buy, then total will be somewhere around rm920. So you will save 480, but this don't have warranty, so can considered as 480 is the warranty.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 15 2006, 11:47 PM
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so how you feel about this??? or you got better option for me??? maybe we can group together and buy... hehhee....
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jojo902156
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Oct 16 2006, 12:16 AM
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Well, 1 thing buying from other countries is, the chances that getting imatation is lesser. But depends how you feel it, rm400-500 is not a small amount. Another thing is student can get tax exempted if I not mistaken, if yes then the amp will be rm660 + 1 big makan for your friend.
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TSmooscar
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Oct 16 2006, 04:49 PM
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erm... anyone know how much % will be tax if i ask my friend to bring and amp back from London for me??? and any comment on the JBL GTO75.4? seem a powerful amp from its spec....
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DeReturner
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Oct 17 2006, 03:53 PM
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Tax for electronic product is 40% on declared price. So since your fren bringing, negociate with the vendor to get a cheaper resit, can save some on that. Amp sure taxable. Since your fren carry so, no need buy insurance on it. Also don't forget the installation charges, unless you install yourself.
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cky6667
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Oct 17 2006, 04:01 PM
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erm......tax i think around 20% onli...coz last time my uncle post his ICE frm italy......
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jojo902156
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Oct 17 2006, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(mooscar @ Oct 15 2006, 06:37 AM) wau.. then it is a lot diffferent.... may i know where u usualluy lepak at... maybe i can browse those website as well.. mind to share??? I got the price of shipping today, the amp is USD159 and shipping is USD130....
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TSmooscar
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Oct 18 2006, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(jojo902156 @ Oct 17 2006, 06:26 PM) I got the price of shipping today, the amp is USD159 and shipping is USD130.... but then I see this amp, Soundstream XTA880.2 in the website I normally refer to for US price, it is selling USD269. where the place that you look for USD159??? some cheap. PM me the website, thank you.
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Espionage
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Oct 19 2006, 10:38 AM
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US and UK selling ICE very very cheap...due to out of date stock....they always keep to the trend........
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