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kira-kun
post Mar 24 2015, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(sangz @ Mar 24 2015, 05:21 PM)
Hi guys,

I am planning to buy NA version CE, but my qisahn selling damn high price than SE???

qisahn around RM700++
se around RM500++

So sad sad.gif

Any other less tedious options to buy NA version CE?
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QUOTE(shojikun @ Mar 24 2015, 05:22 PM)
try gmg with vpn tongue.gif
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I think he wants to get physical copy.
GMG is selling digital only.

Nope. RM700+++ from qishann is about right if you are getting physical.

Shipping + Custom Duty + Profit that's about right.

Next since it is above RM500... you will get custom duty too.

As you get custom duty, you will have to pay GST.

If you don't have RM800- RM1,000 to spare, better no buy unless you deal directly with an official distributor?

Just hope US Amazon can sell to you i guess but it won't come cheap~ It will be approximately RM700++ still

Good Game Custom Duty and GST
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post Mar 25 2015, 09:07 AM

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First online retailer with CE

https://www.mightyape.com.au/product/Final-...dition/23008870

If EBGames sell this high... I will get digital too haha
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post Mar 28 2015, 03:26 PM

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AUD 299 for this CE sleep.gif
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post Mar 29 2015, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(darkskies @ Mar 28 2015, 08:39 PM)
If u ordered on the date when it first open for preorder, u'll get 15,984yen. Seems after that, u could no longer find any place on amazon japan selling it at that shelf price.
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Just get the CE PS3
Too bad doesn't ship to Australia gahhh
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post Mar 30 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(darkskies @ Mar 29 2015, 02:07 PM)
Doesnt ship to Malaysia either. I have to use freight forwarding services from 3rd party to get it to me.
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managed to preorder from EBGames Australia...
AUD 299. That's MYR 855... GBP 157....

Saddens me to note the price is based on GBP but oh well
Time to go Diet...

P.S. CE Sold out in 35 mins...

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post Mar 30 2015, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(darkskies @ Mar 30 2015, 11:18 AM)
That's kind of insane.... the price difference between regions had been too drastic.
Players have to pay almost 2 copies of ce price to get 1 to reach them.  doh.gif
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it is expected
Australia is under PAL Region and prices are based on UK

UK is already selling at GBP 130.. so it is expected it will be that expensive

What's interesting is that even people complain paying for AUD 299 (GBP 157), CE was sold out 35 mins after it was up for preorder.

Some suspect they took down due to system problems but I highly doubt

I feel no more stock and they are restocking since so many orders... why shouldn't i restock haha
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post Apr 1 2015, 06:10 AM

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QUOTE(darkskies @ Mar 31 2015, 10:28 AM)
Based on the price indication here's the price that you would want to check.

JPN CE
RM449.01(After conversion and without calculating shipping cost)
RM650(Inclusive of shipping cost and possibility tax.)*Rough Estimation*

NA CE
RM669 by Qishan

UK CE
Australia - RM855 (Latest price update by Kira-Kun)
This is not inclusive of shipping cost.
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Adjusted a little. Mine is official Australia retailer selling UK shit lol!

well... the problem that the local suppliers will be facing is stocking up UK/ PAL Edition

Majority of the Asian players users the PAL Edition

The base price for PAL CE is priced at £130 or €130 (RM713 and RM517 respectively)

With the crazy restrictions.. it is hard to secure PAL CE priced at €130. Chances will be from UK-London

If you were to buy in Malaysia Retailer... I estimate the price to be at RM900

Why?

Base price directly from supplier is already RM713. Plus shipping?
Since it is above RM500, you are imposed with custom Tax.

Once you get Custom Tax, you need to pay local GST if the GST system is consistent with the Australia's (I am a Tax Accountant here)

Darkskies, get ready for more money to pay your custom tax and gst hoho!

Retailer Profit? Easy will sell at RM900

This post has been edited by kira-kun: Apr 1 2015, 06:12 AM
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post Apr 15 2015, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(darkskies @ Apr 14 2015, 03:45 PM)
Hm.. i thought those early birds got early access ? Usually when the transaction is completed before the cd is shipped out, you're given the early access cd-key.
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like i said it before, unless you deal with those who directly deal with SE, you may or may not get preorder codes.

Play-asia is one of them to my understanding.

I am somewhat sure that the Malaysia Retailers will not have pre-order codes too unless otherwise their suppliers are willing to give.

Cause here in Australia, we have not received any codes as what EB Games said "We have not received any pre-order codes from Square Enix. Should we receive them, we will contact you in the coming days."

My advice would be dealing digitally with those who actually offer the preorder codes like GMG.

This post has been edited by kira-kun: Apr 15 2015, 07:25 AM
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post Apr 15 2015, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(darkskies @ Apr 15 2015, 09:17 AM)
Early access code through my understanding is distributed out to those who preordered it earlier on.
Like JPN versions, they do indicate that whether the copy u buy comes bundled with early access code or not.
Usually indicated as Early Preorder bundle bonus.
However, it wont be distributed out immediately to those who "preordered" the physical copy. Because money has not been deducted from either your credit-card/debit-card . Only when they deducted money from your bank-acc, they'll distribute the early access code to you via your email.
For digital copy, i'm not too sure since i've not purchased one before. Though if they did deduct money from your valid bank acc, they'll distribute the early access code to you directly.
Same case goes for Malaysia Retailers. If they acquire these early preorder copies, they should have early access code with them. It's just the matter of did the retailer's supplier settled the amount with SE directly.

It's like your regular online purchase from lelong/lowyat. Someone ordered something from you, would you be silly enough to send the item to him before he make payment ? If he cancel order halfway when the parcel is on it's way to his doorstep, how ?
Retailers are not suppose to be without early access code. Ask them to double check with their supplier. It should be distributed to them in the month of end may or early june via emails.
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Nope.
That's not how it works.

It really depends on how the retailers deal with the actual supplier.

For example, I preorder CoD Advance Warface. Preordering it will give me gold skin @ Destiny.
After obtaining it, I cancel the preorder. No loss for me and retailers don't really care.

Regardless whether you preorder digital or physical copy, unless your retailer has obtained codes from SE.
Then you got the preorder items.

I don't know your JP version. But I find it rather strange. Are you saying that they deduct full 2 weeks before the game release so that you enjoy the pre-order code?

Major Retailers such as EB Games/ Gamestop/ Games and GMG.com, they will normally distribute the preorder codes upon order.

Please note that the preorder codes are normally distributed through email or pamphlet for MMORPG.

I don't recall people getting their copies earlier because they pre-order it for early access.

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post Apr 16 2015, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(darkskies @ Apr 15 2015, 03:20 PM)
Yes i pointed out that it really depends on how our local retailers deal with the actual supplier who is directly/indirect suppliers/distributors for SE.
However it doesnt worked that way. Maybe it worked for you but for my side it didnt quite work out like what you said about the cancelling of preorders after you got your early preorder bonus code.
If everyone start doing that, do you think they won't care about it ?


Honestly, no.
Retailers won't care.
Why I said so. Cause codes are abundant. Like yesterday, I walked into EB Games store asked why I haven't received my Kombat Pack for MKX as I preordered, immediately they just processed and got the code.

Nice being friends with staff with EB Games. Cause if they got extra codes, they can just give to friends haha!

Overseas, Early Access and all this pre-order items is just an incentive to get the game.

Retailers do not make money from pre-order but only from the games.

Let's say you get the pre-order codes, you eventually still need the game to play right?

Hence that's why giant game retailers such as EB Games, Gamestop, UK Games and GMG do not really care.


QUOTE(darkskies @ Apr 15 2015, 03:20 PM)
Yes, i bought games from amazon japan before and they pretty much worked that way for me. I even bought from other japan online stores . They'll only release preorder codes once they receive my payment.
My credit card balance currently do not have any amount charged under amazon japan even though i preordered heavenward on March.

Early access code as what it's hinted. For early access to the new content before official date. It's distributed through your email that you made purchased from through your registered email account. Like during 2.0, i received my early access code through my email from the online japan retailer i bought from. It's 2 weeks before official start of the server. The physical copy arrived seating on my desk after 2 days later from official date.


Every copy of early preordered heavensward should have early access code. I remember that it was distributed by SE themselves and forwarded to me from the online store through email first . The physical copy came along with the same early access code written on the pamphlet as what you described later.
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Each company has their own practice.
Not surprised Amazon JP does as such where they charge full before giving you the codes.

I do not think the pamphlet is in game.
It should be separate.

If you get the codes before the game. I assume it is out of the game itself. If not you get 2 codes haha!

Regardless, what I am trying to inform, if you want to secure the pre-order goodies, best get online where pre-order items are actually listed and not local retailers as chances you won't be getting it if they do not deal properly.

This post has been edited by kira-kun: Apr 16 2015, 07:17 AM
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post Apr 16 2015, 09:56 AM

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Was a mistype hehe
What I mean the pamphlet you get from amazon.co.jp should be out the game itself.

Imagine if it was in the game box. Then you get 2 different codes haha!

Which is very unlikely.

Hence that is why I never buy MMORPG stuff from local suppliers cause chances not getting pre-order exclusive is high.

QUOTE(shojikun @ Apr 15 2015, 11:31 PM)
digital donlod wont have i think
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You are right.
Local GST is not imposed if purchased digitally or even imported physically [RM 500 and below only (include insurance, freight and etc)]
If you get custom taxed, then you get GST too

This post has been edited by kira-kun: Apr 16 2015, 09:59 AM
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post Apr 21 2015, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(vinz92 @ Apr 21 2015, 09:30 AM)
just bought ARR CE and Heavensward CE from GMG @ RM 290

question is does purchasing Heavensward alone grants game time?
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an expansion never gave game time before.

your arr ce would.
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post May 30 2015, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(Vickyle @ May 30 2015, 07:44 PM)
SE likes to make things confusing and complicated.
A Realm Reborn key code = base game
Heavensward key code = expansion
Without base game, you cant play expansion, like any other games
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Nope...
SE doesn't make this complicated.

In General that's how MMORPG is
You always buy the base game first then expansion is an ADD ON.

If you are need, go get the Heavensward + ARR. But that doesn't preorder bonus

Please refer to the link below and buy appropriately.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/heavensward/
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post Jun 8 2015, 07:05 PM

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Sorry to disappoint...
With current exchange rate if you are trying to get EU edition. you gonna fork out at least RM900- RM1000

EU CE edition is 150 pounds/ 300 AUD
That's 860 at current exchange rate (middle rate)

I don't think you can get this cheaper.
Reason is, all known retailers who are stocking this have been sold out.

Best is to deal directly with SE EU shop which you have to go through via someone in EU.

Good Luck in finding one.

QUOTE(Vickyle @ Jun 8 2015, 06:03 PM)
If early access, ask him to send you the code first?
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He still needs the code to access the game after early access.

This post has been edited by kira-kun: Jun 8 2015, 07:06 PM
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post Jun 8 2015, 10:34 PM

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can ask darkskies take pictures to show us the CE xD
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post Jun 30 2015, 01:37 PM

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After playing so many mmorpg, I have not seen an expansion giving time card

Not defending

However it is rather expected price based on region!

U.S. Was USD150 and that's normal for a collector

Ripped off are only applicable those eu people like me where all retailer sell ridiculous prices haha!



 

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