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waja2000
post Apr 8 2015, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Apr 8 2015, 03:35 PM)
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for UN mission in oversea 。

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post Apr 8 2015, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Apr 8 2015, 03:37 PM)
WOW, we seriously not getting anything at all if it's related to jews and israel?
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right now is Yes,
but if want close eye than ok loh. is still under US Northrop Grumman fire control radar product, just behind tech is Israel.
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post Apr 8 2015, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Apr 8 2015, 03:17 PM)
Indonesia 8 AH-64E $296 million not include equipment and weapon. should be also training. last 2 month also news Indo order helmat for Ah64E.
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Yes but with weapons package, sensors, Hellfire launcher, Elbit helmet, support & training...etc if i'm not mistaken the total price is around $500 million.
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post Apr 8 2015, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Apr 8 2015, 04:02 PM)
Yes but with weapons package, sensors, Hellfire launcher, Elbit helmet, support & training...etc if i'm not mistaken the total price is around $500 million.
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ya, should be around this. news also report this.
this bring to usd 62.5 million price each (seem ok)
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Thailand live-firing test of the DTI-1G.

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http://www.facebook.com/dtithailand/posts/425846130908726



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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Apr 8 2015, 03:55 PM)
for UN mission in oversea 。
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cannot sent gempita meh?

or gempita over kill jo for UN mission?
hahaha
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Apr 8 2015, 04:02 PM)
right now is Yes,
but if want close eye than ok loh. is still under US Northrop Grumman fire control radar product, just behind tech is Israel.
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is our cause just to not use the jews products ar?

i know we want to show support to Palestine la, but macam rugi je if we stop all israel product.
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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Apr 8 2015, 04:29 PM)
cannot sent gempita meh?

or gempita over kill jo for UN mission?
hahaha
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requirement is 6x6
that's why there is a 6x6 gempita that will undergo evaluation this year iinm

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 8 2015, 04:32 PM)
requirement is 6x6
that's why there is a 6x6 gempita that will undergo evaluation this year iinm
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how much does the extra wheel affect the performance of the vehicle?

i always assume more better cause in case tayar pancit kena shoot still got 7 back up, better to tackle diff terrain, higher payload.

betul ke?
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how much does the extra wheel affect the performance of the vehicle?

i always assume more better cause in case tayar pancit kena shoot still got 7 back up, better to tackle diff terrain, higher payload.

betul ke?
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if not wrong UN is pay the cost for amour, so have to follow requirement. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Apr 8 2015, 04:40 PM)
if not wrong UN is pay the cost for amour, so have to follow requirement.  hmm.gif
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are they still all in white camo for UN duty?

that should look quite bad ass pun rigth?

any idea total how many gempita will all branch of military buy?
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are they still all in white camo for UN duty?

that should look quite bad ass pun rigth?

any idea total how many gempita will all branch of military buy?
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un one not sure ..

gempita will product around 260+- unit.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Apr 8 2015, 04:52 PM)
un one not sure ..

gempita will product around 260+- unit.
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cukup ke 260? thpace


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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Apr 8 2015, 05:01 PM)
cukup ke 260? thpace
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first batch
TD are targetting around 1k of AV8
to totally replace the current condor and sibmas
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post Apr 8 2015, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Apr 8 2015, 03:35 PM)
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Other program replacement. Av8 more of hostile enviroment while 6x6 for more peaceful patrols

QUOTE(azriel @ Apr 8 2015, 04:20 PM)
Thailand live-firing test of the DTI-1G.

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http://www.facebook.com/dtithailand/posts/425846130908726
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On second pic... what is that self propelled artillery.. macam kenal but lazy check to see

QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Apr 8 2015, 04:31 PM)
is our cause just to not use the jews products ar?

i know we want to show support to Palestine la, but macam rugi je if we stop all israel product.
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Policy from mahathir time.. he dont like them not

Indo have no problem getting techs from them nor is turkey and other muslim majority nations

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 8 2015, 04:32 PM)
requirement is 6x6
that's why there is a 6x6 gempita that will undergo evaluation this year iinm
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I thought pars already have it here since gempita. Maybe for camera show only and bring back to turkey

QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Apr 8 2015, 04:35 PM)
how much does the extra wheel affect the performance of the vehicle?

i always assume more better cause in case tayar pancit kena shoot still got 7 back up, better to tackle diff terrain, higher payload.

betul ke?
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Faster and lightweight. Thus, good enough for general patrol duty

QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Apr 8 2015, 05:01 PM)
cukup ke 260? thpace
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Not sure what the actual amount.

The last i heard was less than 50 unit for initial batch and partially sponsored by UN. Someone from deftech told me before that if such low amount might just purchase direct from turkey than built our own assembly line like the gempita
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M109. Based on the rounded edge,yet longer gun, I say M109A5
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QUOTE(thpace @ Apr 8 2015, 05:58 PM)
Other program replacement. Av8 more of hostile enviroment while 6x6 for more peaceful patrols
On second pic... what is that self propelled artillery.. macam kenal but lazy check to see
Policy from mahathir time.. he dont like them not

Indo have no problem getting techs from them nor is turkey and other muslim majority nations
I thought pars already have it here since gempita. Maybe for camera show only and bring back to turkey 
Faster and lightweight. Thus, good enough for general patrol duty
Not sure what the actual amount.

The last i heard was less than 50 unit for initial batch and partially sponsored by UN. Someone from deftech told me before that if such low amount might just purchase direct from turkey than built our own assembly line like the gempita
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Pars already have it yes
but Gempita itself is now a very different technology from PARS except for design
that's why DEFTECH are very confident that the 6x6 version will perform better in the selection
IINM the IVECO 6x6 is one of the favorite

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US Army’s New Self-Propelled Howitzer Follows 20 Years of Delays

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While the Paladin Integrated Management (PIM) program’s M109A7 “is not a truly new vehicle, in that it borrows from others,” according to one Hill staffer who spoke to Breaking Defense, the new artillery vehicle “is still a success.”

Success of any kind is welcomed by the beleaguered Army acquisition system, which has a track record of canceled programs and wasted billions dating to before 9/11.

The PIM – built by Britain-based contractor BAE Systems – was created by taking the gun turret that was upgraded by previous programs, and installing it on an all-new chassis.

Previous programs “built a new turret and put it on the old chassis,” said Mark Signorelli, head of combat vehicle programs at BAE Systems. “M109A7 put a new chassis under the A6 turret, with a few upgrades to the turret, and effectively in two steps the Army built a new howitzer.”

While the PIM continues to use the same gun as the older artillery piece, it essentially a new weapon system from the bearing ring on down – one that comes with digital displays and a 70 kilowatt, 600-volt on-board power system.

Signorelli is a veteran of the Army’s cancelled Future Combat Systems and Ground Combat Vehicle programs, which attempted to develop entirely new designs.



“When you have one of these big bang programs … it’s hugely expensive, it takes forever and it’s risky,” he told Breaking Defense. “When you do this Lincoln’s axe approach, you can … put the modernization in bite-size packages, so you’ve got a high probability that you can get the work done on schedule, on budget.”

While the PIM’s new automotive and electrical systems make it 25% heavier than its predecessor, the new model generates 50% more horsepower and almost four times as much electrical power.

The Army identified the Paladin Integrated Management program is one of its top 12 critical programs in the Fiscal Year 2016 budget.

http://sputniknews.com/news/20150408/1020594764.html
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PLA could be developing two versions of Type 055 destroyer

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China could be developing two types of the Type 055 guided-missile destroyer — an anti-submarine and an air-defense model — according to the Kanwa Defense Review, a Chinese-language military magazine based in Canada.

The April edition of the magazine made the suggestion after analyzing the latest leaked satellite images of a ground model of the Type 055, which experts believe may have been designed as the successor to the PLA Navy's highly successful Type 52D destroyer.

Based on the satellite images, the Type 055 is 19.34 meters wide, though the ship's length-side, which has only built its main gun, is yet to be finished. The distance between the main gun and the upper level structures, where vertical missile launchers will be installed, is estimated to be 16.93 m, which is particularly wide given that the typical length is around 10 m. The total length of the ship from the main gun to stern is 130 meters, while its displacement appears to be greater than 10,000 tons.

The model appears to have no helicopter pad, meaning that this version of the destroyer may only require small helicopter drones when attacking with guided missiles. Kanwa suggests that this means the Type 055 could be developed into two models, an anti-submarine version and an air-defense version.

By comparison, the total length and width of the four Type 052D destroyers currently in construction are 154 m and 16.33 m, respectively. On the other hand, the US Navy's Zumwalt-class destroyers (DDG-1000) are 182.9 m long and 24.6 m wide. The Type 055 appears to have adopted some of the DDG-1000's stealth concepts, such as using an integrated composite beam to increase the ship's inward tilt angle.

The PLA seems to be building a Chinese-version of the DDG-1000, the report said, noting that focusing on the ability to attack targets both on sea and on land would represent a major change in the PLA Navy's development strategy. The Type 055 will be able to achieve these objectives as it can fire either the YJ18 anti-ship missile or the CJ-10 land attack cruise missile from its vertical launchers.

At last year's Zhuhai Airshow in Guangdong, it was revealed that Chinese companies are developing 155-millimeter Type WS-35R/B guided missiles with a maximum range of 60 kilometers, who appear to have similar capabilities to the latest generation of US destroyer technology.

Each DDG-1000 has a total of only 80 vertical launch cells, which is believed to be sufficient given the US Navy's abundance of guided missile cruisers and destroyers. The original design was said to have included 128 cells. However, as China currently only has 10 Type 052C/D destroyers, this means that the Type 055 could have around 90-96 cells, similar to that of the US Arleigh Burke-class destroyers.

Huanqiu, the Chinese-language website of the nationalistic Global Times tabloid, suggests that, based on the modelling process of the Type 052C/D destroyers, construction of the the Type 055 could take another one or two years to commence.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...=20150406000004

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post Apr 8 2015, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 8 2015, 07:04 PM)
Pars already have it yes
but Gempita itself is now a very different technology from PARS except for design
that's why DEFTECH are very confident that the 6x6 version will perform better in the selection
IINM the IVECO 6x6 is one of the favorite

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I think this 6x6 the army have no full say what they want.. must follow UN term and condition also laugh.gif

oh well.. since it partially sponsored what get i also dont mind as long keep our troop on ground safe

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