QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 22 2015, 08:39 PM)
I'd say upgrade the migs while waiting for new jets.... Its not like you "buy now get tomorrow" for the new craft.This post has been edited by minizian: Mar 22 2015, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(minizian @ Mar 22 2015, 08:43 PM) I'd say upgrade the migs while waiting for new jets.... Its not like you "buy now get tomorrow" for the new craft. would depend how much modifications you need to be donethe MKM was delivered after 5 years because there prototype made to test the entire system from diff vendors.. It take take time to sort out all the "rojak" system together if u purchase outright like the original MIG29, you will get much faster |
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 22 2015, 12:34 AM) well RMAF try hard to get budget, than got RM 9b ..... dont think willing give to other force. About the MPA looks like there will not be any purchase for MPA according to Marhalim's article.buy AWACS around usd 1B , maybe 2nd phase EC725 other usd 500 mil. also Airforce new radar. maybe can MPA maybe under Navy if with ASW module. QUOTE Anyhow if you are an airframe maker and want to hawk your plane for the so-called MPA requirement do not bother, we will not be buying them. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you why. http://www.malaysiandefence.com/?p=6179 This post has been edited by azriel: Mar 22 2015, 09:00 PM |
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 22 2015, 08:50 PM) would depend how much modifications you need to be done I suppose if they take Rafale things would be faster? Since most of the avionics are French and perhaps it was similar to the one used in our Sukhoi's? IINM some of the stuff are south african as well?the MKM was delivered after 5 years because there prototype made to test the entire system from diff vendors.. It take take time to sort out all the "rojak" system together if u purchase outright like the original MIG29, you will get much faster Dassult was really desperate for Malaysia business, they really throwing everything in this year Lima. |
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QUOTE(minizian @ Mar 22 2015, 08:53 PM) I suppose if they take Rafale things would be faster? Since most of the avionics are French and perhaps it was similar to the one used in our Sukhoi's? IINM some of the stuff are south african as well? system used in rafale and mkm is not the same, both diff plane and avionic or flight control in our mkm is russian Dassult was really desperate for Malaysia business, they really throwing everything in this year Lima. they are despo because the indian deal is still uncertain, if india deal successfully for 126 unit they will start "take it or leave it" to malaysia.. |
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3-D printers save time, money in major aircraft repairs QUOTE 3. Legacy upgrades. The 3-D printers have also come in handy for updating old F/A-18A-D Hornets, which some have likened to fixing classic cars. As FRCSW works to extend the Hornets' airframe life from 6,000 hours to 10,000, jets have shown up with a bulkhead crack that would cost about $1 million and about six months to replace, FRCSW spokesman Mike Furlano said. Instead, the 3-D printing team came up with a tub fitting to reinforce the bulkhead, modeled with a 3-D printer and then manufactured in-house from aluminum. That brought the repairs down to $25,000. http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/te...fa-18/24959201/ |
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QUOTE(azriel @ Mar 22 2015, 08:52 PM) ya i know, MPA can't get it soon. wait other few year later。 QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 22 2015, 01:53 AM) what i think our armed forces should do is i read a euro report said, Airbus military not really push C319/C320 MPA, i sis they (airbus) push low cost C295 MPA. For MPA, get a good long range like P8 or Airbus A320 MPA and put as join procument between the airforce and navy. if really want C319/C320 MPA, Airbus military only start production line if confirm order at lease 20 unit (or combine order) from any country forces. This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 22 2015, 09:26 PM |
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Putin’s massive military drills intended to send message to West on Ukraine ![]() ![]() ![]() QUOTE Military analyst Pavel Felgenhauer said Russia was pursuing a two-pronged strategy: using “nuclear blackmail” to try to press the West into making concessions amid sanctions over Ukraine while making sure its forces are ready for any full-scale military confrontation. “This is brinkmanship, balancing on the brink of war,” he said, adding that in the current atmosphere of shattered ties with the West the Kremlin is not ruling out any scenarios. “These are preparations for a possible nuclear conflict, for a big war with Europe and for a global nuclear war with America.” http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/2...e/#.VQ7BiBjXerU |
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056 corvette suitable for PLA Navy defense in South China Sea ![]() Meizhou, China's third Type 056 corvette. (Internet photo) As China launched its 25th Type 056 corvette on Mar. 19, the Sina Military Network based in Beijing said the PLA Navy will be able to control the disputed South China Sea with between 10 and 20 of such vessels. China is estimated to be building at least 40 Type 056 corvettes with a pricetag of US$8 billion to compete against the United States' littoral combat ships deployed to the Asia-Pacific region. The US Navy plans to operate four littoral combat ships from its base in Singapore by 2018 according to the Diplomat, an online current affairs magazine based in Tokyo. It will become a great obstacle for China to put the disputed South China Sea under its control then. Littoral combat ships are not the only threat that the Type 056 corvette is going to engage with in the hotly contested Asian coastal waters. The Sina News Network suggested the corvette would also be used to counter the six Russian-built Kilo-class submarines of the Vietnamese navy and the one South Korean-built Chang Bogo-class submarine of the Philippine Navy. The piece went on to say that the Type 056 is a perfect platform from which to enhance the anti-submarine warfare capability of the PLA Navy. For years, China has tried various methods to improve the air defense and anti-submarine capabilities of the PLA Navy. H/SJG-206 low frequency towed array sonar systems had been installed to China's advanced surface combat vessels such as Type 054A frigates, Type 052C destroyers and Type 052D destroyers recently. However, the smaller-size Type 056 is more suitable to fight against enemy submarines in a region with shallow waters such as the South China Sea. http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...=20150321000155 |
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 22 2015, 09:20 PM) ya i know, MPA can't get it soon. wait other few year later。 just one of the long range MPA i suggestedi read a euro report said, Airbus military not really push C319/C320 MPA, i sis they (airbus) push low cost C295 MPA. if really want C319/C320 MPA, Airbus military only start production line if confirm order at lease 20 unit (or combine order) from any country forces. P8 would be nice |
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QUOTE(minizian @ Mar 22 2015, 08:53 PM) I suppose if they take Rafale things would be faster? Since most of the avionics are French and perhaps it was similar to the one used in our Sukhoi's? IINM some of the stuff are south african as well? ya, just like Egypt bought over 3 Rafale (from France AF) which ready to delivery to France Airforce, jet will delivery to Egypt in June later. 3 unit delivery in dec, in return cost much more expensive.Dassult was really desperate for Malaysia business, they really throwing everything in this year Lima. if we buy Rafale should be can get first 2-3 unit in 2 year. France Thales much kknow our military communication system and date, which much easy to speed up delivery. same to F18 should can get in 2-3 year. |
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Russian Deputy PM Says Country's Combat Helicopters Are the Best ![]() Russian-made combat helicopters are the best such vehicles in the world, according to Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. He gave the thumbs-up after flying on board the next-generation reconnaissance and combat helicopter Ka-52, which he touted as a "flying tank". "Today I was cruising around aboard this flying tank", Rogozin tweeted, referring to the Kamov Ka-52 "Alligator" copter. According to him, the helicopter "is easily controlled and it is packed full of advanced automated systems." Rogozin described the Ka-52 as a less maneuverable vehicle when compared to a light helicopter, which he said is only natural for an "armored copter." "Right now, the Ka-52's helicopter carrier-based version is being developed. On the whole, Russian attack helicopters are the best in the world," Rogozin said. "Have a nice day, everybody, " he added in a final tweet showing him sitting in the Ka-52's cockpit. Last month, he tweeted that he had received an official perpetual private pilot's certificate. In a separate twitter message, Rogozin said that only the most advanced military hardware will be showcased at the May 9 Moscow Victory Day Parade to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the capitulation of Nazi Germany in World War Two. http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150322/1019843300.html |
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 21 2015, 08:25 PM) Well I just asked about it. aaa, just got homebasically for russia you need to look at the airframes flight hour and the airframe age which for our migs 25 years. Also there is an doubt it can last for another 25 as the qoutes say mainly it is depend on the airframes conditions unless they change the whole airframes completely. anyway these is the answer I get. Perhaps atreyuangle have more info on these. and nothings beat the comfort of home you are right, these mig are from the older soviet technology where the age of the aircraft are actually count by the hours and not just flight hour meaning that the age of the aircraft is actually ticking even though the aircraft did not fly and that's why the MIG is actually have higher flying time then any other aircraft in the inventory of the TUDM to service the whole air craft for the SLEP is going to be a major works including stripping down the fuselage and it will be time consuming and not to mention to pricey and still leave a gap in between. |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 22 2015, 10:09 PM) aaa, just got home MKM by flight hour then?and nothings beat the comfort of home you are right, these mig are from the older soviet technology where the age of the aircraft are actually count by the hours and not just flight hour meaning that the age of the aircraft is actually ticking even though the aircraft did not fly and that's why the MIG is actually have higher flying time then any other aircraft in the inventory of the TUDM to service the whole air craft for the SLEP is going to be a major works including stripping down the fuselage and it will be time consuming and not to mention to pricey and still leave a gap in between. |
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 22 2015, 09:08 PM) system used in rafale and mkm is not the same, both diff plane and avionic or flight control in our mkm is russian Aik, i thought the indian deal was solved? The Indian still wanted Dassault to hold responsibility about the HAL Rafale?they are despo because the indian deal is still uncertain, if india deal successfully for 126 unit they will start "take it or leave it" to malaysia.. |
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QUOTE(minizian @ Mar 22 2015, 10:24 PM) Aik, i thought the indian deal was solved? The Indian still wanted Dassault to hold responsibility about the HAL Rafale? still in final discussion, russia at back looming to get india more MKI QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 22 2015, 10:25 PM) then MKM why still not a contender for MRCA any specific reason? or because it optimized for air to air |
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