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azriel
post May 9 2015, 07:27 AM

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Don't know why people say that a 50 - 60 tonnes MBTs are not suitable in tropical soil like in Malaysia because of it's weight. It's not about the weight itself but they should consider the ground pressure of the MBT.

Comparing ground pressure of MBTs:

T-90 : 0.938 kg/ sq.cm
Leo 2 : 11.8 psi (0.83 kg/cm²)
K1A1 : 0.87kg/cm²

Between the 3 the Leo 2 has much less ground pressure.

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post May 9 2015, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 9 2015, 08:04 AM)
K2 does xome with extra width track because of muddy conditions is sk especially endinh of winter and rainy season.

But weight is also a concern due to transportation and size. Rule of thumb, the heavier the bigger the tank size is
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Yes but it's not like that MBTs goes out from it's base everyday of the week. The only time the MBTs goes out from it's base if there is an exercise or war going on.

Plus ofcourse if there is a ceremonial parade. smile.gif

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post May 9 2015, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 9 2015, 09:29 AM)
the certain weight limit our road can handle as well.. U wont want a transporter causing potholes all over laugh.gif

even that time i will start cursing although i fond with the sight of military vehicles... vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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That is why some MBTs has rubber tracks. The PT-91M uses German's Diehl Tracks. Even it seems the Thai Army is replacing the standard tracks of the T-84 Oplot-M with rubber tracks.

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http://www.thaiarmedforce.com/taf-gallery/...nd-oplot-m.html

Potholes were caused maybe by poor quality of the road and by daily usage by trucks & buses.

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post May 9 2015, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 9 2015, 11:06 AM)
Pt91m should have lower ground pressure compare to 3 above.
There are a picture on pt91 slightly sinking on the grounds.
Yup as heavyduty say bridges was another issues that put into consideration on weight requirements.
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The PT-91 Twardy ground pressure is 0,94 kg/cm2 almost the same as the T-90.

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product179.html

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post May 9 2015, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 9 2015, 11:43 AM)
That should be the measurements for poland twardy.
Malaysia uses german track mainly to lower down the ground pressure.
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Someone posted in the defence.pk forum that the ground pressure of the PT-91M is 13.2psi 0,94kg/cm2.

The German track is due to easy handling, lower maintenance, maneuverability even in difficult terrain & keeping the downtime to a minimum.

http://imtdefence.com/vehicle-components/d...-track-systems/

azriel
post May 9 2015, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 9 2015, 01:05 PM)
Hmm, not sure I will check about it again. hmm.gif
Maneuverability probably mean having better weight distribution as well. biggrin.gif
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It is more towards tractions as KYPMbangi said. You need also an engine with more horse power.

K1A1 for example:

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The Kl is equipped with a turbo-charged 1,200hp MTU MB 871 diesel engine providing a power to weight ratio of 23.5hp/t. The transmission has a planetary gear train and a hydrodynamic torque converter. In high gear, the Kl can attain a maximum road speed of approximately 65km/h. The low ground pressure of 0.87kg/cm² enables it to successfully manoeuvre in sodden or sandy terrain.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/k1/


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azriel
post May 10 2015, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 10 2015, 10:11 AM)
Turkey Altay Tank at IDEF 2015

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Come with side mirror too tongue.gif
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The side mirrors are standard on some MBTs and can be folded. Mainly use during driving on roads. Even the Leo 2s are with side mirrors.

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Anyway the Altay in IDEF 2015 is the final design prototype. The design of the turret is different from the early prototype.

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post May 10 2015, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 10 2015, 01:07 PM)
i know  sweat.gif  Just that, they have TV camera for 360 view which negate such use

but road law require the installation  laugh.gif

Anyway, it looking more like a K2 turret
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Really like the new turret with a much lower profile than the previous prototype.
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post May 10 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 10 2015, 02:56 PM)
I would still prefer the korean one coz even lower profile.

I not sure altay used the same french autolaoder as on the k2. Or a manned loader.

Too lazy to check out because i korean fag...
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Looks like the Altay with a manned loader as it has a crew of 4.

I like the Altay turret than the K2. Looks much more tougher. smile.gif

Recent pics the K2 are now installed with ERA.

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Btw did you noticed that the Altay has 7 road wheels instead of 6 of the K2.
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post May 10 2015, 09:30 PM

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Malaysia in Decisive Storm?

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Malaysian force participating in coalition of support for legitimacy in Yemen arrives in Kingdom's bases

Riyadh, Rajab 21, 1436, May 10, 2015, SPA -- The vanguards of Malaysian force participating in the coalition of support for legitimacy in Yemen led by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia within the stage of Renewal of Hope arrived at Saudi air bases today.

Malaysia becomes the 12th state in the coalition after Senegal which announced its participation in the coalition last week through the announcement of its Minister of Foreign Affairs Mankeur Ndiaye to the Senegalese Parliament.

Saudi Ministry of Defense pointed out that the coalition operations center is preparing for the joining of Malaysian and Senegalese forces and the nature of the tasks to be entrusted to them with the participation of the coalition countries.
--SPA


http://www.spa.gov.sa/english/details.php?id=1359580

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post May 11 2015, 12:12 PM

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Turkish Altay MBT Final Design.

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Indonesian Navy's first French-built OSV arrives home

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
10 May 2015

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Then Indonesian Navy chief, Admiral Marsetio, during the launch of KRI Rigel in France in November 2014. Source: TNI-AL

The Indonesian Navy's (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL's) new 60 m offshore support vessel (OSV) arrived in Indonesian territorial waters on 6 May, the service has announced.

The vessel, KRI Rigel (pennant number 933), is the first of two new OSVs ordered from French shipbuilder OCEA SA under a USD100 million contract signed in October 2013. Rigel was received by the TNI-AL's two Kapitan Pattimura (Parchim I)-class corvettes, KRI Sutanto (377) and KRI Wiratno (379), as it approached Rondo Island near the northern tip of Sumatra.

Besides maritime surveillance and oceanographic equipment, Rigel is also armed with one 20 mm and two 12.7 mm guns. According to specifications provided by OCEA, the 500-tonne OSVs have a top speed of 16 kt and can accommodate 30 crew and six embarked personnel.

The TNI-AL has said that it plans to deploy the OSVs to collect underwater topographical data that will support defence-related tasks, although no specific information on the hydrographic equipment installed has been released.


http://www.janes.com/article/51293/indones...sv-arrives-home
azriel
post May 13 2015, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ May 13 2015, 06:53 PM)
PLA has language barrier, US no
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Language should not be a problem. If Indonesia can do it why can't Malaysia.

Sharp Knife Exercise 2011 between Indonesia TNI & PLA:

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azriel
post May 13 2015, 08:23 PM

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Why the Indonesian air force wants the Su-35

May 13, 2015 Rakesh Krishnan Simha, special to RBTH

The Indonesian air force has asked Jakarta to greenlight the purchase of advanced Russian Su-35 fighters. Here’s why it’s a sensible decision.

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Sukhoi classifies Su-35 as a 4++ generation aircraft, which places it just below fifth generation stealth aircraft. Source: Sukhoi

The Indonesian air force wants to replace its outdated American built F-5 fighters with the brand new Russian Su-35 Super Flanker, but the country’s political leadership is unable to act quickly because the U.S. is pitching in with its F-16 and F-18 jets.

Future proofing

With Australia planning to acquire 72 F-35 stealth fighters by the end of this decade, Indonesia needs to look at counter measures. Russia’s T-50 seems like the most ideal candidate but in the meantime the Su-35 can fill the interim and also take on the F-35 threat.

Dave Majumdar of the National Interest says a US Air Force official with experience on the F-35 believes the Su-35 could pose a serious challenge for the new American jet. The F-35 was built primarily as a strike fighter and does not have the sheer speed or altitude capability of the Su-35 or F-22. “The Su's ability to go high and fast is a big concern, including for F-35,” the Air Force official said.

According to Majumdar, “As an air-superiority fighter, its major advantages are its combination of high altitude capability and blistering speed—which allow the fighter to impart the maximum possible amount of launch energy to its arsenal of long-range air-to-air missiles.

“The Su-35 would be launching its weapons from high supersonic speeds around Mach 1.5 at altitudes greater than 45,000 ft; the F-35 would primarily be operating in the 30,000-ft range at speeds around Mach 0.9.”

Sergey Ptichkin of Rossiyskaya Gazeta says the Su-35S is almost identical to the Russian T-50 in terms of the on board electronics suite, control systems and armament. “Therefore it will not prove difficult for pilots to convert to the classic fifth generation fighter with its obligatory stealth technology: any pilot who has assimilated the Su-35S can easily convert to the T-50,” he says.

The upshot: Indonesian pilots will have had a head start when it comes to flying fifth generation stealth aircraft in the next decade.


Full article: http://asia.rbth.com/why_the_indonesian_ai...wants_the_su-35

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post May 14 2015, 08:55 AM

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A video of the US Army 2nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division during Garuda Shield Exercise 2014 in Indonesia. Seeing the Stryker & AH-64E Guardian exercise together with the Indonesian Army Anoa APC & Mi-35P Hind.



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post May 14 2015, 10:18 AM

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Malaysia denies forces to join Saudi-led Yemen offensive

13 May 2015

Malaysia has denied its alleged involvement in a 12-country coalition led by Saudi Arabia to fight against militants in Yemen, despite the presence of its forces in the country.

An unnamed Malaysian defence ministry official told Anadolu Agency on Tuesday that the military force is solely in Yemen to assist in the evacuation of stranded Malaysian students, and those from other countries.

"The Saudi Gazette report is false," he said. "The troops were only there to assist in humanitarian and evacuation missions, as there were still Malaysian students there."

The official requested anonymity, as he is not authorized to speak to media.

Gen. Tan Sri Dr Zulkefli Mohd Zin had said in a statement Monday that two Royal Malaysian Air Force 130 Transport Aircraft would be positioned at the Forward Operating Base (FOB) at Prince Sultan Air Base (PSAB) in Riyadh to facilitate the evacuation.

"As the Malaysian Chief of Defence Force, I would like to inform that the sole mission of our troops in Saudi Arabia is to facilitate the safe and smooth evacuation of the remaining Malaysian citizens in Yemen," he added.

On Sunday, the Saudi state news agency reported that Malaysian troops had arrived in Saudi Arabia to join the Saudi-led coalition against the Shiite Houthi group.

According to the agency, Malaysia became the 12th country to join the coalition, a week after Senegal announced that 2,000 of its troops would join the coalition.


Read more: http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/185424/-...-offensive.html
azriel
post May 15 2015, 10:15 AM

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Singapore Army conducts field ops with Panzerlehrbattaillion 93 of the German Army

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http://snafu-solomon.blogspot.com/2015/05/...d-ops-with.html


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post May 15 2015, 11:17 AM

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Indonesian president backs defence increases

Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Industry
13 May 2015

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Indonesian defence spending 2010-2019. Credit: IHS

Indonesian President Joko Widodo has vowed to more than double the country's defence budget in 2016 if Indonesia's economy achieves 7% GDP growth this year.

In comments published by state-run news agency Antara on 13 May, Widodo said that if the GDP target is achieved the government would "set aside a budget of IDR210 trillion (USD16 billion) for the Indonesian armed forces". In 2015 the defence budget is set at about IDR100 trillion.

The pledge is an apparent indication of a commitment to accelerate a spending plan outlined in April by the Indonesian House of Representatives (DPR). This plan features incremental budgetary increases over the next few years, rising to IDR200 trillion by 2020.

This plan, in turn, is tracked against the Widodo administration's previous pledge to increase military spending as a proportion of GDP from the existing 0.9% to 1.5%.

Speaking on 13 May Widodo said the IDR210 trillion target can be achieved "if the economy grows well [and] particularly if stability is guaranteed". He added, "Our economy is facing global financial pressures … but I am sure if stability and security is maintained the economy will grow by 7%."


http://www.janes.com/article/51431/indones...fence-increases
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post May 15 2015, 11:28 AM

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Vietnam Goes Shopping for U.S. Military Hardware

by John Boudreau
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Anxious about a more assertive China on its doorstep and frictions over territory in the South China Sea, officials in Hanoi recently hosted a group of foreign defense contractors looking to sell the Communist nation everything from radar systems to night vision technology and aircraft.

The military’s top officers were not present because of the sensitivity of hobnobbing with U.S. defense companies eight days before celebrations for the 40th anniversary of the defeat of America and its allies. But the meeting shows how Vietnam’s leaders are looking past ideology to practical realities.

“There are no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests,” Alexander Vuving, a security analyst at the Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies in Hawaii, said by phone.

Squeezed by slower U.S. military spending, defense firms are looking to Southeast Asian nations for new markets, capitalizing on their concerns about China’s outlays on long-range planes, ships and submarines. The April roadshow, organized by the U.S. embassy, follows Washington’s easing of curbs on sales of nonlethal defense systems to Vietnam last October.

“In the coming months there will be more conversations, meetings and trips back-and-forth between American companies and their potential Vietnamese clients,” said Vu Tu Thanh, chief Vietnam representative of the U.S.-Asean Business Council, who attended the day-long symposium. “There is a surge of interest among American defense contractors.”

More than a dozen defense companies, including Boeing Co., BAE Systems Plc, Lockheed Martin Corp. and Honeywell International Inc. were invited to the April 22 event, according to the agenda for the meeting. “The symposium sought to promote U.S. firms in Vietnam,” U.S. embassy spokeswoman Lisa Wishman said in an e-mail.


Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...after-war-s-end

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post May 15 2015, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 15 2015, 11:31 AM)
Armata T-14 tank with detached turret armor system, showing the bare gun mount and other systems

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It's an artist impression.

Larger size pic:

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http://www.russiadefence.net/t4020p525-off...scussion-thread

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