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post May 15 2015, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(togomifi @ May 15 2015, 08:54 AM)
any comment about the new ruling where no more GST but will be charge upon usage..
better or worse?
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Actually, it will be worse.

If the GST apply on the call we make, sms we send or package we subsccribe, I believe there will have scenario that some will charge 2 time of GST.

Example, let say it start on 01 Dec 2015.
I have RM100 credit at as of 01 Dec 2015 which I reload earlier on Nov 2015.
This RM100 already charge for 6% GST when I buy reload of RM100 and pay RM106.

Starting 01 Dec 2015, if I make call which should be charge for RM1 and it will charge RM1.06

So, it seems I have to pay 2 time of GST during the period.

Also, if the call charge RM0.10, it might charge RM0.11
If I make 10 call of RM0.10, it might charge RM0.11 X 10 = RM1.10

But, the total call I make is RM1, it seem migth charge RM1.10 instead of RM1.06

No sure it will charge GST as above or not.

Any how, this solution is even worse than current 1.

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post May 15 2015, 09:43 AM

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Telco can charge slightly more, wasting your credit down faster.

Only good part is people that use international roaming don't get charged gst during usage. But then again, the rates are already more expensive.
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post May 15 2015, 11:00 AM

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celcom SMS old plan
RM 0.02 per SMS become RM 0.0212 per SMS
celcom SMS new IOX plan
RM 0.2 per 5 SMS become RM 0.212 per 5 SMS
RM0.33 per call become RM0.332 per call block
Internet plan MI38 RM38 2GB become RM40.28 per month
2 year validity RM50 pay extra 6%

old Ahmad GST better than this new Ahmad GST.
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post May 25 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ May 15 2015, 09:40 AM)
Actually, it will be worse.

If the GST apply on the call we make, sms we send or package we subsccribe, I believe there will have scenario that some will charge 2 time of GST.

Example, let say it start on 01 Dec 2015.
I have RM100 credit at as of 01 Dec 2015 which I reload earlier on Nov 2015.
This RM100 already charge for 6% GST when I buy reload of RM100 and pay RM106.

Starting 01 Dec 2015, if I make call which should be charge for RM1 and it will charge RM1.06

So, it seems I have to pay 2 time of GST during the period.

Also, if the call charge RM0.10, it might charge RM0.11
If I make 10 call of RM0.10, it might charge RM0.11 X 10 = RM1.10

But, the total call I make is RM1, it seem migth charge RM1.10 instead of RM1.06

No sure it will charge GST as above or not.

Any how, this solution is even worse than current 1.
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sigh.. cry.gif
will migrate to penang now..no GST haha
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post May 25 2015, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(togomifi @ May 25 2015, 03:10 PM)
sigh.. cry.gif
will migrate to penang now..no GST haha
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Are u saying no gst in Penang? Please clarify more.
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post May 25 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ May 25 2015, 03:54 PM)
Are u saying no gst in Penang? Please clarify more.
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penang, JB and dunno which other states said no GST woh...not true?
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post May 25 2015, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(togomifi @ May 25 2015, 04:03 PM)
penang, JB and dunno which other states said no GST woh...not true?
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Are u sure? Any penang or jb ppl to comment?
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QUOTE(togomifi @ May 25 2015, 04:03 PM)
penang, JB and dunno which other states said no GST woh...not true?
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No GST on gov services only. Other things still have GST.
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post May 27 2015, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(DonMe @ May 27 2015, 12:53 PM)
No GST on gov services only. Other things still have GST.
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The state of Penang and johor will obsorb GST and pay on behalf of customer?

All gov services? Pay summon from police malaysia no GST also?
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post May 27 2015, 05:29 PM

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gst is refundable for onexox

pay 5.30, get 5.30 brows.gif
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post May 28 2015, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(adiwarna @ May 27 2015, 05:29 PM)
gst is refundable for onexox

pay 5.30, get 5.30  brows.gif
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Onexox website show harga jualan RM10.60 for Tambah nilai RM10.

http://www.onexox.my/

What is the RM0.30 credit given? Is it normal credit or have separate expiry date which is early? Or different call rate?

All provider give free credit as interim when you reload for certain amount. That is no call refund for gst.
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post May 28 2015, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ May 27 2015, 02:42 PM)
The state of Penang and johor will obsorb GST and pay on behalf of customer?

All gov services? Pay summon from police malaysia no GST also?
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Yes they will absorb. Like renew passport and gov stuffs.
Summons since when got gst.. sweat.gif

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post May 28 2015, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ May 28 2015, 10:16 AM)
Onexox website show harga jualan RM10.60 for Tambah nilai RM10.

http://www.onexox.my/

What is the RM0.30 credit given? Is it normal credit or have separate expiry date which is early? Or different call rate?

All provider give free credit as interim when you reload for certain amount. That is no call refund for gst.
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all gst value for onexox will be refund into DA account after 1-3 days reload

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dont believe? come try brows.gif
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QUOTE(adiwarna @ May 28 2015, 12:18 PM)
all gst value for onexox will be refund into DA account after 1-3 days reload

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dont believe? come try  brows.gif
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What do you means by DA account?
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post May 28 2015, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ May 28 2015, 01:17 PM)
What do you means by DA account?
its a long story actually

DA - dedicated account - cheaper rate
MA - Main account - standard rate

rate depend on how much u topup/ ur balance

every top up, system will divide into 2 account, DA & MA...if topup RM50, all will go into DA (maximum saving bcos u will get DA rate)

system will utilize DA 1st, once DA zero, then only system will use balance from MA
buy data plan only from MA account...if not enough balance in MA account, u can transfer from DA account, but cant transfer from MA to DA account

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post May 28 2015, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(adiwarna @ May 28 2015, 01:56 PM)
its a long story actually

DA - dedicated account - cheaper rate
MA - Main account - standard rate

rate depend on how much u topup/ ur balance

every top up, system will divide into 2 account, DA & MA...if topup RM50, all will go into DA (maximum saving bcos u will get DA rate)

system will utilize DA 1st, once DA zero, then only system will use balance from MA
buy data plan only from MA account...if not enough balance in MA account, u can transfer from DA account, but cant transfer from MA to DA account

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What is what I mentioned, it is not refund lor. It is a way telco provide the so call 'extra' credit to customer.


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post May 28 2015, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ May 28 2015, 02:24 PM)
What is what I mentioned, it is not refund lor. It is a way telco provide the so call 'extra' credit to customer.
sorry, i dont understand what you mean

we call it refund at onexox (onexox only) because all gst will get back to user

topup RM50, pay RM53, get credit RM50 and RM3 after 1-3 days

topup RM10, pay RM10.60, get cradit RM10 and RM0.60 after 1-3 days
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post May 29 2015, 08:10 AM

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xiddig and tron.
free 10% credit every topup on the spot.


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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Mar 10 2015, 01:50 PM)
Perhaps pay RM10.00 only RM9.43 in credits

This would be better cos to the consumer, not seen to be paying more / extra
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err no la..either way consumer still have to bear the GST..don't like it then use public phone

QUOTE(zher4883 @ Mar 23 2015, 02:39 PM)
GST only charge on top up
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for now yes..


QUOTE(zher4883 @ Mar 24 2015, 08:58 AM)
Those telco very clever, before GST, they bear the 6%, now they let us bear
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welcome to the biz world..actually not the telco la it's the government lo...press down the rules to the telco

QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 24 2015, 09:03 AM)
This is called business. Business is how to make money from other people's money. First rule is to not use your own money for anything  biggrin.gif
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more to come right coz heard that they are proposing to charge for call, SMS, data usage instead of during top up..not sure how true is this la
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post Jun 1 2015, 08:13 AM

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this month topup kena GST or not ?
no news from ahmad saberi chek ?

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